Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Unbeweavable said: Where? A dog tested positive in Hong Kong. So far governments are not even testing animals though, it’s considered a waste of a test at the moment. I am not sure of the fate of research into the Hong Kong dog, there does not seem to be any additinal reporting. But Australian agricultural scientists say that the virus is likely to be spread from human to animal as it itself originated from bats. 6 minutes ago, theahsfan said: I read this, RE: the reinfection Reveal hidden contents These are news reports and not scientific studies yet. While the reappearance of Nicholas Cage with a flaming skull riding a motorcycle may not call for additional scientific studies, all of these cases certainly do. First, scientists need to confirm whether the test results were indeed accurate. Remember, no test is perfect. If people can screw up a drink order, they can certainly mess up a medical test. Even if a test is performed properly, you could still get a positive result when you don’t actually have an infection. On the flip side, just because you test negative doesn’t necessarily mean that there is no way that you are carrying the virus. That’s why a doctor may test you multiple times to be sure of a result. Secondly, doctors and other scientists need to double-check or triple-check that each of these patients actually got re-infected with the virus rather than had an infection that simply lasted a long time. What if, for example, the cruise passenger and the tour bus guide each had fairly long infections and just happened to have intervening false negative test results? The tests could have simply been like commercial breaks in the middle of a single long episode of a television show. Third of all, the amount of immunity that you build up after being exposed to any virus depends on not only virus itself but surprise, surprise your immune system and its response. When your immune system sees a particular virus for the first time, it can essentially get caught with its pants down, not ready to defend your body against this new invader. However, exposure to the virus either through a vaccine or getting infected may train your immune system so that, borrowing the words of former President George W. Bush, “fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.” If strong enough, your immune system then may be ready with proper defenses next time the virus comes calling. Could the cases of reinfection then be examples of people who happened to have weaker immune systems? Um....ok? I read that a man in Japan got reinfected. But not much else has been reported other than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, theahsfan said: For those with pre-existing health conditions and the elderly, most of the people who are dying from it were in a bad state already. And whats to say if you or I got it that we wouldn't develop health complications due to the virus? End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANiCURE 6 10,306 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Is this a joke for England ? Like almost every single place in this world is lockdown expect England... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio 5,088 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, theahsfan said: Pretty soon many people will inevitably be infected and 99-98% will recover The recovered will have some immunity to it I think, so hopefully that'll lead to the return of a normal everyday life Someone gonna quote me and tell me it's the end of the world in... 3... 2... 1... 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theahsfan 13,838 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 35 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: and currently the UK has a higher, yes HIGHER, death rate than the people recovered. To think that the majority of people will just recover from this like a common cold is not correct at all. Having a look at the worldometer... 69,614 / 80,894 in China recovered (8,043 cases are still active). The recovery figure is so high because it began in China, so people have had time to recover obviously The U.K. outbreak is relatively recent... 65 / 2,626 in the U.K. recovered. The majority of those cases are still active (2,490) and only 20 are critical. So we can deduce that 2,470 of those active cases are moderate/mild, like a case of the flu. China has had more of a chance to recover, since it began over there, whereas this is relatively new in the U.K. and we haven't had enough time to see more recoveries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, theahsfan said: Having a look at the worldometer... 69,614 / 80,894 in China recovered. The recovery figure is so high because it began in China, so people have had time to recover obviously The U.K. outbreak is relatively recent... 65 / 2,626 in the U.K. recovered. The majority of those cases are still active (2,490) and only 20 are critical. So we can deduce that 2,470 of those active cases are moderate/mild, like a case of the flu. China has had more of a chance to recover, since it began over there, whereas this is relatively new in the U.K. and we haven't had enough time to see more recoveries 72 people have died in the UK compared to 64 people who have apparently recovered. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: There have been cases of reinfection. And survivors of infection can have lifelong respiratory problems and reduced lung capacity. For some it can be like living with HIV for the rest of your life. There have also been human-to-dog transmissions. It’s not the end of the world but it is an entirely brand new virus with repercussions that will continue to unfold and affect the whole word into the future. Cases of reinfection have been linked to having an immunodeficiency. I'd like to see the equivalent to HIV if you have it? To date there has only been one study conducted which suggested there may be some after-effects on organs and lung capacity however it is way too early to say for sure. They also suggest lung capacity can be improved and recover. Theres only been one incident of a human-to-dog transmission, a low-level one as well. Researches have suggested this isnt really a concern. I know you're just trying to stress the severity but this just comes across as scaremongering which doesnt help at all. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShayCristoforo 10,607 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Those are just the reported cases. Who knows how many carriers there are. Scary time, but let's remember to count our blessings. And dance to Stupid Love at home! Get the pinot ready, because it's turtle time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theahsfan 13,838 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: 72 people have died in the UK compared to 64 people who have apparently recovered. I think you're enjoying the drama surrounding this, tbh Re-read what I said "China has had more of a chance to recover, since it began over there, whereas this is relatively new in the U.K. and we haven't had enough time to see more recoveries" Also, there are predicted to be like 1000s (10,000?) of undiagnosed mild cases in the UK bc of lack of testing making the figure of 72 deaths not too high Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zander 14,944 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: 72 people have died in the UK compared to 64 people who have apparently recovered. And many, many, many more will recover. Not everyone is being tested therefore you can’t get an accurate fatality or recovery rate. In reality the fatality rate is much lower than 3%. It’s totally irrelevant looking at the cases daily because there’s more than what’s being reported. The only purpose it serves is fuel for panic and anxiety Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, theahsfan said: I think you're enjoying the drama surrounding this, tbh Re-read what I said "China has had more of a chance to recover, since it began over there, whereas this is relatively new in the U.K. and we haven't had enough time to see more recoveries" Also there are predicted to be like 1000s of mild cases in the UK bc of lack of testing Okay well what about Italy, with again, more recorded deaths than people recovered. I'm not "enjoying the drama" lmao its literally fact. Its clownery to think this is just some flu that people will automatically recover from. People are only saying that to calm people down, but the science suggests otherwise. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 53 minutes ago, FentyGa said: ugh i just want this to be over already at least dimmed enough that people dont need to quarantine and we can just move on the mess we need a vaccine. im tired of it too already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theahsfan 13,838 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, xoxo Craig said: Okay well what about Italy, with again, more recorded deaths than people recovered. I'm not "enjoying the drama" lmao its literally fact. Its clownery to think this is just some flu that people will automatically recover from. People are only saying that to calm people down, but the science suggests otherwise. 31,5062 cases 26,062 active cases, only 2,060 are severe, meaning 91% of those people are most likely gonna recover and some of the critical will recover too. Also take into account the thousands of undiagnosed mild cases, meaning an even higher percentage will recover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theahsfan 13,838 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: I'm not "enjoying the drama" lmao its literally fact. Its clownery to think this is just some flu that people will automatically recover from. People are only saying that to calm people down, but the science suggests otherwise. No one is saying that it's 'some flu' (though it will be for most people!) but some people are trying to be positive and you're there jumping down their throats practically saying that we're doomed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme More 35,820 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 i'm shook! thank god i'm finally able to work from home i am literally not leaving my house unless i really need to! my work said i have to come in though if some urgent work crops up, however i would not have to come in even if that was the case if the stupid government put us on lockdown we're living in scary times... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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