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I have to admit December is just an awful time for new music to be released (digital or radio), but C'mon looks like it would be a flop either way. I mean even Primadonna and Girl Gone Wild had twice the sales with half the airplay C'mon has.

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I don't think C'mon will flop It isn't even released to radio... Where was Marry the night before get released on radio on top 1000 ?

And Marry The night was 5th single while C'mon is second. I even think that it can top the hot 100 with the right video and promotion because as we can see radio stands a lot for it :)

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I don't think C'mon will flop It isn't even released to radio... Where was Marry the night before get released on radio on top 1000 ?

And Marry The night was 5th single while C'mon is second. I even think that it can top the hot 100 with the right video and promotion because as we can see radio stands a lot for it :)

Everyone was also blown away by how much MTN was blowing up on the radio before it's release dates. It was actually one of the fastest initial gainers on the radio in 2011. But after poor sales, it ran out of steam.

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I don't think C'mon will flop It isn't even released to radio... Where was Marry the night before get released on radio on top 1000 ?

And Marry The night was 5th single while C'mon is second. I even think that it can top the hot 100 with the right video and promotion because as we can see radio stands a lot for it :)

It doesn't matter if it was officially released to radio or not because the stations are already playing it. Aiplay equates to radio driven sales and for the amount of airplay it has right now it should be at least in the top 200 on itunes. Right now it's at #479.

If I can recall correctly, Marry The Night was higher than that with the same amount of Airplay.

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It doesn't matter if it was officially released to radio or not because the stations are already playing it. Aiplay equates to radio driven sales and for the amount of airplay it has right now it should be at least in the top 200 on itunes. Right now it's at #479.

If I can recall correctly, Marry The Night was higher than that with the same amount of Airplay.

Everyone was also blown away by how much MTN was blowing up on the radio before it's release dates. It was actually one of the fastest initial gainers on the radio in 2011. But after poor sales, it ran out of steam.

I think too long video killed it...

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It doesn't matter if it was officially released to radio or not because the stations are already playing it. Aiplay equates to radio driven sales and for the amount of airplay it has right now it should be at least in the top 200 on itunes. Right now it's at #479.

If I can recall correctly, Marry The Night was higher than that with the same amount of Airplay.

Yep, it was higher :). However, also remember that Gaga was going on a promoting spree with the song. I'm sure that it help boosted it. So even though they are very similar chart runs so far, the songs do have their differences.

I think too long video killed it...

I wouldn't say it killed it. But it needed a very mainstream video to boost it, but that boost never came. It may not have worked anyways. Gaga was the star of New Years Eve, and even that couldn't boost the song by much.

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Radio did hurt Marry the Night. Initially it was really well received, but, as someone mentioned earlier, it stopped gaining after the video aired and it rose on iTunes. The Christmas freeze killed it.

That video certainly didn't help though. Far to artsy and long to promote an already struggling single.

Whatever the case, the song that should have been a sure hit did poorly. Hopefully lessons will be learned and ARTPOP won't make the same mistakes.

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iTunes update

01. I Knew You Were Trouble. - Taylor Swift

02. Locked Out of Heaven - Bruno Mars

03. Gangnam Style (ê°â€¢Ã«â€š¨Ã¬Å ¤Ã­Æ’ۓ¼) - PSY

04. Beauty and a Beat (feat. Nicki Minaj) - Justin Bieber

05. Diamonds - Rihanna

06. Die Young - Ke$ha

07. Ho Hey - The Lumineers

08. We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together - Taylor Swift

09. Home - Phillip Phillips

10. Scream & Shout (feat. Britney Spears) - will.i.am

11. Thrift Shop (feat. Wanz) - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis

12. One More Night - Maroon 5

13. I Cry - Flo Rida

14. Cruise - Florida Georgia Line

15. Some Nights - Fun.

16. The A Team - Ed Sheeran

17. Try - P!nk

18. As Long As You Love Me (feat. Big Sean) - Justin Bieber

19. Don't You Worry Child (Radio Edit) [feat. John Martin] - Swedish House Mafia

20. Wanted - Hunter Hayes

21. Girl On Fire - Alicia Keys

22. Swimming Pools (Drank) [Extended Version] - Kendrick Lamar

23. Hall of Fame (feat. will.i.am) - The Script

24. It's Time - Imagine Dragons

25. I'm Different - 2 Chainz

26. No Worries (feat. Detail) - Lil Wayne

27. Clique - Kanye West, Jay-Z & Big Sean

28. Whistle - Flo Rida

29. Blown Away - Carrie Underwood

30. F**kin' Problems (feat. Drake, 2 Chainz & Kendrick Lamar) - A$AP Rocky

31. Little Things - One Direction

32. Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen

33. Let Me Love You (Until You Learn to Love Yourself) - Ne-Yo

34. Ready or Not - Bridgit Mendler

35. Don't Stop the Party (feat. TJR) - Pitbull

36. Live While We're Young - One Direction

37. Bandz a Make Her Dance (feat. Lil Wayne & 2 Chainz) - Juicy J

38. Want U Back - Cher Lloyd

39. Va Va Voom - Nicki Minaj

40. Catch My Breath - Kelly Clarkson

Selected Others

51. Radioactive - Imagine Dragons

55. Daylight - Maroon 5

60. Somebody's Heartbreak - Hunter Hayes

80. Sweet Nothing (feat. Florence Welch) - Calvin Harris

84. Tornado - Little Big Town

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Radio did hurt Marry the Night. Initially it was really well received, but, as someone mentioned earlier, it stopped gaining after the video aired and it rose on iTunes. The Christmas freeze killed it.

That video certainly didn't help though. Far to artsy and long to promote an already struggling single.

Whatever the case, the song that should have been a sure hit did poorly. Hopefully lessons will be learned and ARTPOP won't make the same mistakes.

The surge was strictly from the milions of views the video got after its release. After the hype died down the song dropped back down to its radio driven sales. The video was the only thing that had much of an impact at all on the song... None of her performances did much of anything for its sales and not even the NYE special that had close to 1 billion people worldwide watching. I think it rose maybe 2 spots after the performance?

People just didnt like the song. The song itself is great, but I've noticed that Pop songs that are "dark" normally do not do well. Bad Romance could be called dark, but it's quirky and fun at the same time.

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Radio did hurt Marry the Night. Initially it was really well received, but, as someone mentioned earlier, it stopped gaining after the video aired and it rose on iTunes. The Christmas freeze killed it.

That video certainly didn't help though. Far to artsy and long to promote an already struggling single.

Whatever the case, the song that should have been a sure hit did poorly. Hopefully lessons will be learned and ARTPOP won't make the same mistakes.

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MTN's issue was the song itself.. With how much it were promoted, if it were meant to be a hit, it wouldve been a hit.

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MTN's issue was the song itself.. With how much it were promoted, if it were meant to be a hit, it wouldve been a hit.

Thank you. I was getting too detailed, but it was basically promoted and given enough chance to be a hit, but couldn't be.
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MTN's issue was the song itself.. With how much it were promoted, if it were meant to be a hit, it wouldve been a hit.

:shrug: I get that thought process, but I wouldn't consider any of its performances good promo other than New Years Eve. By then the song was already dying.

I know that it's not scientific at all, but EVERYONE in my school loved Marry The Night. And they were coming off completely hating her for releasing Born This Way and Judas. I think it was a likable song, just that it had a lot of things working against it. That's just my opinion though. Doesn't change that it flopped hard :laughga:

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EMAs, Grammy Noms, Ellen, Paul OGrady, Japan NYE, NYE USA, Bambi awards, Radio 1 UK performance.. etc

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