Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, DeluluSwine said: when you google it it says pete has 22 and bernie 21 wikipedia isnt updated with this new result that takes back 1 iowa delegate and gives it to sanders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluluSwine 3,921 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Azor Ahai said: wikipedia isnt updated with this new result that takes back 1 iowa delegate and gives it to sanders okay, thanks for explaining Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmonzter 2,864 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, MJHolland said: Literally google the words “who is winning the democratic race” and tell what pops up *immediately* How dare you call me Orwellian, @Morphine Prince. A prime example of how Bernie’s campaign is turning fine people into disillusioned bullies. Leadership is about what you inspire in people, which is why Bernie is a danger to this country — Bernie Bro’s are as toxic as the come (second only to https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2014/nov/11/reading-group-orwellian-1984 Something about Orwellian which you seem to view as bullying? An excerpt on the Orwellian: What’s more, as well as being a word that is overused, over-stretched and hotly disputed, Orwellian is further complicated because it has two contradictory strands of meaning. It is both a compliment and an insult. If you call a person an Orwellian, they generally like it. If, however, you refer to something they’re doing as Orwellian – and by extension a bit like all that horrible stuff in Nineteen Eighty-Four – odds are you aren’t aiming for their Christmas card list. Throwing the bully word without any substance. How original. Classic victim mentality Bernie won the popular vote on both counts. That should satisfy you. He leads Pete on votes. That's enough for me. Sing C'est la vie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, MJHolland said: Literally google the words “who is winning the democratic race” and tell what pops up *immediately* How dare you call me Orwellian, @Morphine Prince. A prime example of how Bernie’s campaign is turning fine people into disillusioned bullies. Leadership is about what you inspire in people, which is why Bernie is a danger to this country — Bernie Bro’s are as toxic as the come (second only to Trumpsters). Pete has one more delegate. But how can you ignore the RESULTS. This is ORWELLIAN. This is GASLIGHTING. The FACTS: Pete won Iowa (although Bernie won the popular vote) Bernie won New Hampshire (he got more votes but the margin was so close they both got 9 delegates) Anything else is a LIE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Azor Ahai said: He doesnt. They are tied because Pete is a close second and got the same number of delegates as a result. That’s not true!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: Pete has one more delegate. But how can you ignore the RESULTS. This is ORWELLIAN. This is GASLIGHTING. The FACTS: Pete won Iowa (although Bernie won the popular vote) Bernie won New Hampshire (he got more votes but the margin was so close they both got 9 delegates) Anything else is a LIE. Pete got TWO MORE NATIONAL DELEGATES in Iowa They both got 9 national delegates in NH The winner of the primary is determined by national delegates They were literally all asked about this, and Bernie Sanders said LAST NIGHT, “I think the person with the most national delegates at the end of this should be the Dem nominee.” Unless Bernie is gas lighting you too.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, MJHolland said: Pete got TWO MORE NATIONAL DELEGATES in Iowa They both got 9 national delegates in NH The winner of the primary is determined by national delegates They were literally all asked about this, and Bernie Sanders said LAST NIGHT, “I think the person with the most national delegates at the end of this should be the Dem nominee.” Unless Bernie is gas lighting you too.... Dude, he's talking about the entire number of delegates. We are discussing individual state elections. Pete won Iowa, which is a caucus. Bernie won New Hampshire, which is a primary, decided by actual votes. But they both got 9 delegates since it was a win with a small margin. Pete has 22 delegates, and Bernie 21, as of right now, according to Google. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, MJHolland said: Pete got TWO MORE NATIONAL DELEGATES in Iowa They both got 9 national delegates in NH The winner of the primary is determined by national delegates They were literally all asked about this, and Bernie Sanders said LAST NIGHT, “I think the person with the most national delegates at the end of this should be the Dem nominee.” Unless Bernie is gas lighting you too.... Originally the argument was that Pete got more SDE's. By whole number count, Pete and Bernie received the same number of SDE's. If you go to the second decimal place, Pete has so far received .08 of 1 SDE more than Bernie. Additionally, there was another recount request, so the notion of talking about who won or lost Iowa in a definitive nation is just negligence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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