Bloomberg is second on new national poll

[derpmonster 22,412]

11 hours ago, Buddy said:

Most people have no idea what's going on in Israel/Palestine.

When Israel disproportionately attacked Gaza in 2014 killing 1000s, 80% of those being civilians including many sleeping women and children with several attacks on schools and hospitals... Bloomberg said he was totally cool with it  - that they deserved it.

**** Bloomberg.

Warren defended Israel over the 2014 attacks too. it's so sad American politicians can't get a grip

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

13 minutes ago, Maleficent said:

You really tried didn't you? 

A more conservative Supreme Court is not something to be villainized, just because you disagree with the policies it may implement. 

There is no good or bad, there are only shades of grey. You act as if you, and only those who think exactly like you, have reached higher enlightenment; and pity and patronize those who are a little to the left or right of you. 

Conservatives are not some ancient creatures who are stuck in the past, just because they disagree with you on social and economic issues. 

Socialists, or the Left-Left, are not trying to strip away your rights and force you to think some special way. 

Everyone has the right to vote for whomever they like, and you are not allowed to criticize or demean them for it--even if you personally don't see it as "right". 

Tell that to the trans people in the military. Go ahead tell it to them. 

[PartySick 173,278]

11 hours ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

I've never seen a Bloomberg debate. I think Warren and Amy will destroy him. 

Gotta get my popcorn for that one

[Ziggy 14,156]

9 hours ago, hankhatesyouall said:

Bloomberg  and Buttigied are the only ok-ish Democratic candidates. 
Not surprised that he is surging. Let's see how his numbers change after the debate.  

If you've seen a Bloomberg ad, his rise is not because he's "ok-ish". It's purely because he spent $350 mil on ads that make it seem like Obama has endorsed him. People could actually like him, but I doubt it since no one actually knows him yet this cycle outside his ads. He's just done a f*** ton of ads which aren't going to make him look bad (if they're doing their job ).

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

4 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

If you've seen a Bloomberg ad, his rise is not because he's "ok-ish". It's purely because he spent $350 mil on ads that make it seem like Obama has endorsed him. People could actually like him, but I doubt it since no one actually knows him yet this cycle outside his ads. He's just done a f*** ton of ads which aren't going to make him look bad (if they're doing their job ).

I don't don't like that Obama ad either. Bloomberg isn't the only billionaire on that stage that has spent millions on ads. So I think it's more than ads that pushing his momentum. He's not who I'm voting for but we can't just say it's ads with Bloomberg. There is more there. That's why I hope he bombs on the debate stage so the ads become meaningless. 

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5 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

If you've seen a Bloomberg ad, his rise is not because he's "ok-ish". It's purely because he spent $350 mil on ads that make it seem like Obama has endorsed him. People could actually like him, but I doubt it since no one actually knows him yet this cycle outside his ads. He's just done a f*** ton of ads which aren't going to make him look bad (if they're doing their job ).

Until he stands on that debate stage as a new target and has to answer for his bullsh*t

Money won't buy him a win over Bernie imo.

[Ziggy 14,156]

1 minute ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

I don't don't like that Obama ad either. Bloomberg isn't the only billionaire on that stage that had spent millions on ads. So I think it's more than ads that pushing his momentum. He's not who I'm voting for but we can't just say it's ads with Bloomberg. There is more there. That's why I hope he bombs on the debate stage so the ads become meaningless. 

but no one has spent quite this much lol like, he's spent a CRAZY amount and in a short time. In ad-speak that basically means HEAVY saturation while candidates like Kamala Harris run out of money or need to budget to maintain themselves.

[PartySick 173,278]

9 hours ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

But Trump is genuinely evil & an idiot too!  SMFH

 

I think @Maleficent's point is that Trump is just as evil but incredibly lazy and incompetent. Which has its own dangers, sure, but would you rather a fool with no idea of what he's doing? Or a smart man with the same gross intentions?

[Sanju 1,504]

 

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5 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

I don't don't like that Obama ad either. Bloomberg isn't the only billionaire on that stage that has spent millions on ads. So I think it's more than ads that pushing his momentum. He's not who I'm voting for but we can't just say it's ads with Bloomberg. There is more there. That's why I hope he bombs on the debate stage so the ads become meaningless. 

All of his momentum is built off his ads, especially considering the man doesnt have a real platform apart form "Mike will get it done". No other candidate spent anywhere near $350M within the first few months of their candidacy, are you kidding me. 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

16 minutes ago, gabeoz said:

All of his momentum is built off his ads, especially considering the man doesnt have a real platform apart form "Mike will get it done". No other candidate spent anywhere near $350M within the first few months of their candidacy, are you kidding me. 

So give more to Bernie like billionaire corporations do. 

[lego 44,165]

48 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

Tell that to the trans people in the military. Go ahead tell it to them. 

 

 

 

[Ziggy 14,156]

46 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Until he stands on that debate stage as a new target and has to answer for his bullsh*t

Money won't buy him a win over Bernie imo.

I half agree. I don't think he'll get the nomination, but I also don't think that's his goal. If it was he would have some semblance of a platform. I think this is a campaign to tank Bernie Sanders'. Basically, I think he wants to push it to a contested convention where the super delegates will likely pick someone more moderate than Sanders and Bloomberg doesn't have to pay as much in taxes. Because all he has to do in that case is make sure Bernie doesn't come in with a large majority. He doesn't even need to drastically kill Bernie's momentum, just do enough damage to hamper his Super Tuesday efforts.

 

However, the other more optimistic part is that A LOT of people are awake to his crap and have been keen to call him on it from the get-go. We stan party unity 

[Maleficent 6]

1 hour ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

Tell that to the trans people in the military. Go ahead tell it to them. 

there’s always a reason. the ban wasn’t just out of pure evil. 

Studies show Hormone therapy can affect mood and a sense of well-being, a factor that counts against inclusion of transgender people and its effect on service capability. (Clements, Wicke 2006) 

Further studies show that hormone therapy can also increase risk for the following diseases: thromboembolic disease, myocardial infarction, breast cancer, fertility problems, stroke, abnormal liver function, renal disease, endometrial cancer, and osteoporosis.

Being in combat, and evening training for the military is high stress and physically and mentally exhausting. Obviously if you are more likely to crack or breakdown, the military does not want you to join and put yourself (and those around you) at risk. 

Again. Things aren’t black and white the way you’d like them to be. 

[Juan Ibarra 13]

2 hours ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

I don't don't like that Obama ad either. Bloomberg isn't the only billionaire on that stage that has spent millions on ads. So I think it's more than ads that pushing his momentum. He's not who I'm voting for but we can't just say it's ads with Bloomberg. There is more there. That's why I hope he bombs on the debate stage so the ads become meaningless. 

He has no real followers, just corporate media. To win the election against Trump you need to get the people who don't usually vote and oligarchs like Bloomberg are exactly the reason why those people dont to out to vote (they just dont trust the system [i wonder why]). And honestly, to allow a man to buy his way into the democratic race is just disencouraging, to say the least. Oh, and fyi, Bloomberg is spending his own fortune in ads.