JoeMo 3,889 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Chickens in Malibu said: @Economy well I agree on some points, but for me I feel it's toxic masculinity when somebody's masculinity is measured by the length of their hair or whether they have facial hair. I could be wrong, but that's how I look at it. I am 100% gay and a bottom, and some of the guys I've been attracted to barely have any facial hair or body hair. And it doesn't make them less attractive in my opinion. I think that's a far cry from saying this standard applies to femme gays. Again, I am talking about the natural aspects of someone (who don't even wear make-up or try to make themselves look feminine in anyway). If somebody for example genetically speaking doesn't grow a beard (some blondes are like that), I'd still be into them if overall they're nice. but where did I say in my original comment that I measure masculinity based on the length of a guys hair?! I would understand if the topic was titled “is Brad Pitt manly” or “how manly does Brad Pitt look in this photo”.. the topic clearly asks would you date him?! www.youtube.com/jmremixes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANiCURE 6 10,295 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Not my type. Surry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkmanthaC 114,698 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Economy said: Look I agree with u it's shallow to make a deal breaker over a detail like someone hair But I also think it's fair to have a preference. I don't think that automatically has to be seen as toxic masculinity If it's on the basis of something like "men aren't supposed to have long hair, or I have femme guys that's gross etc" I would say that's toxic masculinity But if it's a matter of preference I don't think so Again I'm not a big fan of men with long hair either and I don't like the look all that much and don't find it attractive. It's not because I think men can't, aren't supposed to or that I'd judge them for it. I just don't personally like it I also have other preferences based on gender. I like body hair on men. I don't like it on women. Of course if a woman chooses not to shave, that is her right and nobody else's right to criticize. It doesn't mean I have to find it attractive tho It is a double standard admitedly. But attraction is a bit discriminating by nature. Ppl like some things and not others and gender and masculinity vs feminity has a big role in attraction for most ppl. Hence sexual orientations Gays often like men because they are attracted to masculinity so it's not surprising "femme" gays are often less desired than "masc" gays but at the end of the day attraction is not something u just reprogram at will. If it was that easy to just decide what u like we wouldn't have the whole born this way message As a side point I'm curious on what women on GGD think about double standards like say body hair. @SamanthaC @StrawberryBlond @Kayla @Zilla I don't really care what men want to do with their body hair. I have my preferences, and I stand by them. I am more attracted to men with short hair and no facial hair. I actually tell my husband I will shave him in his sleep if he doesn't shave. It has more to do with I don't want him rubbing his facial hair/stubble on my face or don't like the feeling when I kiss him. It can actually break you out too if it irritates your skin enough. However, I can understand the appeal of a man with facial hair/long hair. I just don't care for it. I also don't really care what women do with their body hair. I mean most women don't shave often in the winter. In the summer, I'm probably more likely to shave several times a week. Winter every few weeks. Whatever people want to do is fine. Live and let live. she/her/hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,934 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Economy said: As a side point I'm curious on what women on GGD think about double standards like say body hair. @SamanthaC @StrawberryBlond @Kayla @Zilla I always think it's a different thing for men and women. Body hair tends to just look better on men than women, that's the judgement that society has dreamed up so most of us follow it. Hair on our head is a bit different as I've seen short and long hair be equally praised depending on your personal preference. Myself, I've liked long hair on men but am just as fine with short hair but on women, I only like long hair. And I definitely feel that body hair in general is best kept to a minimum for women but am more accepting of it on men. It's how our bodies look with the hair, that's what makes the difference. Myself and every other woman I know is always happier with less body hair, so I think it becomes something innate. Double standards may be BS and all but these preferences don't come from nowhere, how our bodies look have a bearing on what we deem attractive and what we think we should wear and how we should present ourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franch Toast 27,172 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Economy said: As a side point I'm curious on what women on GGD think about double standards like say body hair. @SamanthaC @StrawberryBlond @Kayla @Zilla I'm a straight woman, and I'm not a big fan of body hair on men, but I love long hair on men's heads. I'm not a big fan of body hair on myself either, though I get lazy in the winter, but I don't care what other women or men with whom I'm not sleeping do or don't do with their body hair, because that's their business. I had an allergic reaction a few months ago to the razor I was using (one of those disposal razors with strips on them) and couldn't shave under my arms for a few weeks, and I was repulsed by myself. I don't expect my male partners to be hair-free and wouldn't want my male partner to shave his legs or under his arms (unless that's what he wanted), but I'm not into "bear" types (for example, Michael Polansky's body hair is a big turn-off for me). I've never been intimate with a super hairy guy because I'm just not attracted to all of that body hair and wouldn't let it get that far. I don't mind beards or mustaches though on the right guy, and even though I like long hair, there are short-haired men whom I find very sexy. It's kind of like how I normally wouldn't go for blonde guys, but I do think Brad Pitt is hot (though his cheating is a major turn-off). I guess then @Economy I'm not bothered by your so-called double standard because I'm not a fan of being intimate with someone who has a ton of body hair, nor do I like a lot of body hair on myself. And I have my own double standard because I do become lazy in the winter (unless I'm in a relationship with someone). She/Her/Hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers 29,742 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, MANiCURE 6 said: Not my type. Surry. Then do it for the money. Everybody is lowkey hookerz now Remember to like and subscribe, and click on the bell icon to get the latest updates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANiCURE 6 10,295 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Bonkers said: Then do it for the money. Everybody is lowkey hookerz now I don't know why everyone find him so attractive... Not even for money... I'm sure I can find a better sugar daddy ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 He’s too old for me so I wouldn’t date him. I would just f*ck him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvon 1,868 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Idk I'm not really atracted to him, not anymore. I know it is horrible to say but I prefer someone a bit younger. Well, someone who is a bit closer to my age. Maybe If were talking about 90's Brad Pitt... ...Damn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers 29,742 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, MANiCURE 6 said: I don't know why everyone find him so attractive... Not even for money... I'm sure I can find a better sugar daddy ! you gotta see Thelma & Louise Remember to like and subscribe, and click on the bell icon to get the latest updates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boysomewhere 449 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Society 3,584 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 He's the kind of daddy I like. Rich, good looking and still works out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadariousGarage 1 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Chickens in Malibu said: @Economy Racial preferences are simply wrong. They stem from a deep-rooted prejudice and perception that white people look better or are hotter etc.. Yes I know that there's a tiny percentage of people who are not into white people. But if you look at these dating apps (where people speak their mind freely), you'll see that language is mainly used against darker skins. We are conditioned through Hollywood (among other things) (over-representing whites) that whites and white-passing latinos/middle easterns are the best. And that's what generally creates the subconscious preference. reason whatsoever to believe that certain races are better. It's all stigma, misconceptions and myths.I learnt to suppress any subconscious beliefs like that. Now I really appreciate the beauty that are in all races with no exceptions. I am not going to allow myself to think that I have a racial preference or normalize it in anyway. I've honestly had flirting/sexual encounters with people from all races over the years. And there is no We all believe that we are not racist. But not being racist doesn't just come down to being against Jim Crow laws. Everybody is these days. Look a bit further. If you see your whole inner circle is white, all your close friends are white, all of the people you flirted with are white, despite living in a diverse city, then you most certainly have subconscious racial bias, which you should be aware of and overcome. Not talking specifically about you by the way. I'm talking in general. So now being attracted to certain people, something you cannot control is racist? Huh, sis make it make sense I would date anyone personally, Idgaf about your race, though other aspects that some men have I am not attracted to, personally, you cannot control who you are and are not attracted to there is no need or shame to not be attracted to someone, if you are attracted to every race, great, if you only like white guys, great, if you only like black girls, great, you cannot control who you are attracted to, its like your sexuality, you cannot control if you are attracted to men or women pretty much all my friends are latino or black, and I do not consider myself racist against white people, honestly race does not matter when it comes to making friends, if you are black and are a sh*tty person, I don't want to be friends with you, if you are white and a sh*tty person, I don't want to be friends with you, its that simple plus people of certain races may connect better than others, black people know what black people go through, like white people know what white people go through, they have more in common, which helps people be friends Lets do it baby I know the Law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadariousGarage 1 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Chickens in Malibu said: @Economy Let's just agree to disagree. For me things like "I'm not into blacks" or "I'm not into asians", or "I prefer whites" will always sound wrong to me, and quite frankly racist. I know some people prefer latinos/middle easterns etc.. And I don't dispute that. But I'm talking about the fact that the overwhelming majority of these preferences are against people of color. There is no reason whatsoever to have these preferences to begin with. If people learnt to be more accepting, we wouldn't be having this discussion. And noticeably every single person that's been butthurt about my comments about racial preferences is a white person. So please remind yourselves that you don't know how it feels to be a POC (nor do I) so be sensible in what you say. sorry to insert myself into this, but if a black person said "sorry, im not into whites" is that racist? if it isn't, then not being into blacks/asians isn't either Lets do it baby I know the Law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deagan 608 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Ehm hell no, not after those "drunk father to Angelina Jolie's children" stories. He doesn't seem nice at all. And too old now, even for a one night stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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