Biden savagely attacks Buttigieg in new ad

[Marilyn MonHoe 11,011]

19 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

I'm not playing this game with you.

I know how it compares. It doesn't make him look better or dismiss the valid criticism she has brought up.

If you want Pete's numbers to improve with black people, he should probably stop putting black people in the front rows of his videos as tokens and paying people to testify about how good he was with black people. Actions >> Words. Take action.

(Also, get him to fire Lis Smith because she's a sociopath  )

Also Pete the Fraud should try not to fake his black politician support, just like he did in SC 

[Bt1 5,213]

1 minute ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

I'm not playing this game with you.

I know how it compares. It doesn't make him look better or dismiss the valid criticism she has brought up.

If you want Pete's numbers to improve with black people, he should probably stop putting black people in the front rows of his videos as tokens and paying people to testify about how good he was with black people. Actions >> Words. Take action.

(Also, get him to fire Lis Smith because she's a sociopath  )

Dont want to play the game, but continue with more attacks.

I asked u to compare it, because u also send me to compare the data in Vermont. But again, treating Pete like you treat Bernie is nothing that you, Bernie supporters, are interested to do. 

The problem is that you play with real difficult issues to gain political points for Bernie. 

 

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

41 minutes ago, Florin said:

Dont want to play the game, but continue with more attacks.

I asked u to compare it, because u also send me to compare the data in Vermont. But again, treating Pete like you treat Bernie is nothing that you, Bernie supporters, are interested to do. 

The problem is that you play with real difficult issues to gain political points for Bernie. 

 

Your beef should be with Pete Buttigieg for creating this situation, not Lindsey Davis for pointing it out, or me for agreeing that she was right to point it out.

I'm not playing with anything. I'm black, but we are not a monolith. If BLM, Black people in South Bend, etc. have an issue with Pete's record, they are welcome to have it and I think we should respect their feelings as valid. Should it hurt his political career? I think so. Black people are too used to getting screwed over by bright-eyed Democrats who can speak well on racial issues but have little action to back it up, and theres no reason they should bend over for just another example of it  If these issues were all fake, propaganda, nefariously used or weaponized against him, I would oppose them, but there are too many instances and all of them seem very valid to me (other than the stock photo part of the douglass plan fiasco, stock photo itself - not an issue, faking black support - an issue)

My only critique of that is that I wish they were less reticent in their support for Obama, because IMO he doesn't deserve it as much as they say. He had many opportunities to do things significant for black people that he chose not to do. 

 

 

[PartySick 173,278]

Well my grandma officially said she's with Pete (she used to be for Biden)

Not that she can vote in the primary, she's an independent, but I thought I'd share a little anecdotal evidence that Pete's peeling off Biden's support.

Remember when we thought Warren and Sanders would split the progressive vote and give Biden the edge?

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17 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

Your beef should be with Pete Buttigieg for creating this situation, not Lindsey Davis for pointing it out, or me for agreeing that she was right to point it out.

I'm not playing with anything. I'm black, but we are not a monolith. If BLM, Black people in South Bend, etc. have an issue with Pete's record, they are welcome to have it and I think we should respect their feelings as valid. Should it hurt his political career? I think so. Black people are too used to getting screwed over by bright-eyed Democrats who can speak well on racial issues but have little action to back it up, and theres no reason they should bend over for just another example of it  If these issues were all fake, propaganda, nefariously used or weaponized against him, I would oppose them, but there are too many instances and all of them seem very valid to me (other than the stock photo part of the douglass plan fiasco, stock photo itself - not an issue, faking black support - an issue)

My only critique of that is that I wish they were less reticent in their support for Obama, because IMO he doesn't deserve it as much as they say. He had many opportunities to do things significant for black people that he chose not to do. 

 

 

Agree to disagree like always. Did we  agreed on anything like ever? 

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3 hours ago, Florin said:

Dont want to play the game, but continue with more attacks.

I asked u to compare it, because u also send me to compare the data in Vermont. But again, treating Pete like you treat Bernie is nothing that you, Bernie supporters, are interested to do. 

The problem is that you play with real difficult issues to gain political points for Bernie. 

 

Like Pete, Bernie did some good...and not so good things as mayor. 

Like all the other candidates, Bernie is a politician. 

When Bernie Sanders, a self-declared socialist, served as mayor in the 1980s, he often complained that the United States had its priorities wrong, that it should be diverting money from the military to domestic needs like housing and health care.

So when dozens of antiwar activists blocked the entrance to the local General Electric plant because it was manufacturing Gatling guns to fight the socialists in Central America, the protesters expected the mayor’s full support.

Instead, he lined up with union officials and watched as the police made arrests, saying later that in blocking the plant, the activists were keeping workers from their jobs.

It was a classic example of how Mr. Sanders governed- as a pragmatist. He tended to talk globally but act locally, in this case choosing the real and immediate socialist principle of protecting workers over blocking the making of weapons to fight leftists abroad. Although he often shouted about foreign affairs, Mr. Sanders was consumed with running the city.

Critics on the right said their socialist mayor gave the city a bad image, wasting time on foreign affairs, including trips to Nicaragua and the Soviet Union. At the same time, critics on the left said he compromised too much with business interests and did not go far enough in pursuing socialist ideals. Over the span of his mayoralty, the number of families living in poverty grew - to 798 in 1990 from 563 in 1980, an increase of 42 percent.

 

 

 

[Othon 34,299]

7 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Like Pete, Bernie did some good...and not so good things as mayor. 

Like all the other candidates, Bernie is a politician. 

When Bernie Sanders, a self-declared socialist, served as mayor in the 1980s, he often complained that the United States had its priorities wrong, that it should be diverting money from the military to domestic needs like housing and health care.

So when dozens of antiwar activists blocked the entrance to the local General Electric plant because it was manufacturing Gatling guns to fight the socialists in Central America, the protesters expected the mayor’s full support.

Instead, he lined up with union officials and watched as the police made arrests, saying later that in blocking the plant, the activists were keeping workers from their jobs.

It was a classic example of how Mr. Sanders governed- as a pragmatist. He tended to talk globally but act locally, in this case choosing the real and immediate socialist principle of protecting workers over blocking the making of weapons to fight leftists abroad. Although he often shouted about foreign affairs, Mr. Sanders was consumed with running the city.

Critics on the right said their socialist mayor gave the city a bad image, wasting time on foreign affairs, including trips to Nicaragua and the Soviet Union. At the same time, critics on the left said he compromised too much with business interests and did not go far enough in pursuing socialist ideals. Over the span of his mayoralty, the number of families living in poverty grew - to 798 in 1990 from 563 in 1980, an increase of 42 percent.

You're literally just copy-pasting from a 2015 NYT hit piece. 

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24 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

You're literally just copy-pasting from a 2015 NYT hit piece. 

There is good and bad accomplishments of both mayors. 

It wasn’t a hit piece, it was factual. 

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

I repeat my claim - if you think Bernie supporters think hes perfect, you will never be able to make your point effectively. Try something else.