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FlopSlurper
3 minutes ago, Kapi09 said:

Finally someone impartial
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go read gaga's testimony saying how she one time saw kesha wearing nothing but an underwear, in the back of a studio  looking scared and depressed and how she saw herself in her and remembered the time gaga herself was sexually assaulted + avril, pink, kelly, charli, demi, beck g, bebe rexa (and I'm probably missing someone) speaking out about how much of shitty person he is, bebe straight up saying she was crying because she was scares of getting raped

yeah ALL these women are lying and dr luke and the PR firm that's behind him (who was behind r kelly and harvey weinstein) are telling the truth.

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Defmix100
7 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said:

Sony offered kesha her freedom if she admitted she was lying and apologised, which she refused to do, because  this isn't just about her wanting to leave her contract 

if she was lying, and I don't know enough to believe that yet (although if she did I think she never expected it to become like this), if she was lying and wanted out of the contract why would she or anyone take the Sony offer?

Even if it was a lie, admitting would destroy her career so I can't see anyone taking that Sony offer, her turning it down doesn't mean anything because it's a double edged sword

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FlopSlurper
1 minute ago, boyfromnowhere said:

PIN THIS PLS.

Why? We already know about this and she said he forced her to lie and threatened her and her mother. Why do you want him to pin it :oprah:

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1 minute ago, FlopSlurper said:

Why? We already know about this and she said he forced her to lie and threatened her and her mother. Why do you want him to pin it :oprah:

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FlopSlurper
1 minute ago, Defmix100 said:

if she was lying, and I don't know enough to believe that yet (although if she did I think she never expected it to become like this), if she was lying and wanted out of the contract why would she or anyone take the Sony offer?

Even if it was a lie, admitting would destroy her career so I can't see anyone taking that Sony offer, her turning it down doesn't mean anything because it's a double edged sword

It's not like her current situation is any better, look around here at people calling her a liar, dr luke milking her dry because of this situation + her still being signed to him. She knows she's losing this but she's still sticking to her words, meanwhile she could've signed and at least secured her life financially.

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Defmix100
2 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said:

It's not like her current situation is any better, look around here at people calling her a liar, dr luke milking her dry because of this situation + her still being signed to him. She knows she's losing this but she's still sticking to her words, meanwhile she could've signed and at least secured her life financially.

I just personally can't see anyone accepting that, admitting you lied about a horrible crime further tarnishing some people's views on real victims and becoming a hated person. I don't know the legal side but could she be jailed if she admitted to lying? In an ideal world (and this isn't about Kesha but anyone making up lies about any serious crime), the liar would get the same punishment that the false perpetrator would have gotten. One thing we can all agree on is in this instance Dr Luke sounds like a sh**ty person.

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FlopSlurper
2 minutes ago, Defmix100 said:

I just personally can't see anyone accepting that, admitting you lied about a horrible crime further tarnishing some people's views on real victims and becoming a hated person. I don't know the legal side but could she be jailed if she admitted to lying? In an ideal world (and this isn't about Kesha but anyone making up lies about any serious crime), the liar would get the same punishment that the false perpetrator would have gotten. One thing we can all agree on is in this instance Dr Luke sounds like a sh**ty person.

I'm sure part of the negotiation was that he would drop all legal cases against her.

Also this reminds me of Taylor and Scooter, he asked her to never mention him again if she wanted to perform her songs at the AMA. These men always use their power to silence the artists they abuse.

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1 hour ago, FlopSlurper said:

go read gaga's testimony saying how she one time saw kesha wearing nothing but an underwear, in the back of a studio  looking scared and depressed and how she saw herself in her and remembered the time gaga herself was sexually assaulted + avril, pink, kelly, charli, demi, beck g, bebe rexa (and I'm probably missing someone) speaking out about how much of shitty person he is, bebe straight up saying she was crying because she was scares of getting raped

yeah ALL these women are lying and dr luke and the PR firm that's behind him (who was behind r kelly and harvey weinstein) are telling the truth.

And ? I'm sorry but being a bad person doesn't make you a rapist or a murderer. It's two different things. 

That fast that Kesha was wearing underwear in studio, the matter ? GaGa did it too, it's meaining she was sexually assalted ? No. 

  

 

 

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23 minutes ago, ropi said:

If he raped Katy, where's the accusation? 

Do you honestly think Katy, who had been trying to make it for YEARS, would come out publicly against the most powerful pop producer that arguably made her when she was having a massive global era and was a new artist? okay

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Chromaticunt
23 minutes ago, ropi said:

If he raped Katy, where's the accusation? 

She sent texts to Gaga which can be found online. 

I feel so sorry for Kesha. This case just highlights how easy it is for  white men to get away with rape. Very sad. 

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1 hour ago, HighRoad said:

F*cking disgusting, the justice system failed again.

and to all of you saying she lied or she probably did, shame on all of you. :neyde:

So, we should automatically believe her because she's a woman and makes cute music? Let's just ignore that document which states more information? :icega:

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According to the doc:

Page 3-4

c. September 2005, Dr Luke heard Kesha's demo, decided to work with her; both maintained independent counsel and signed and agreement under KMI - Dr Luke's company - for, among other things, 6 albums

Page 4

October 2005, Dr Luke and Kesha attended Nicki Hilton's bday party; then an afterparty at Paris Hilton's house. Kesha vomited in a closet, possibly because of too much to drink, food poisoning, or a roofie. She was kicked out of the party. Kesha only has a vague recollection of what happened next - Dr Luke brought her to his hotel; he maintains she slept on the bed, he on the couch, fully clothed. Next morning, he left for the studio and told her that she could stay in the hotel for the rest of the day since she was still sick.

Though she has no memory of Dr Luke assaulting her, Kesha maintains he did so because she felt ripped and sore and experienced the after effects of a roofie - the document notes this is contested.

Page 5

In 2008, Dr Luke suggested Kesha hire David Sonenberg, who became her manager. Sonenberg negotiated a deal with Warner Bros, which Dr Luke contested since it conflicted with the contract he signed with her; Kesha threatened him with negative publicity

In 2008, Kesha hired a new lawyer who negotiated her contract so KMI would have rights to her first 5 albums, instead of her first 6. She began working with Dr Luke

Page 6:

Sonenberg, who had been replaced, comes back into the picture after the success of the Animal album, and alleged that Kesha told him and her mother that she had been drugged and raped by Dr Luke in October 2005

Kesha testifies in a deposition in June 2011 that Dr Luke never drugged her, raped her, she had never told her mother that she had been drugged and raped by him, that she had never had sexual relationships with Dr Luke, and that he had never made sexual advances towards her.

Kesha's mother testified in October 2011 that until she had a meeting with Sonenberg, she was unaware of Kesha ever having any kind of sexual relationship with Dr Luke, nor was she aware of Dr Luke giving Kesha any drug of any kind.

Late 2011/2012, Kesha tried to renegotiate her contract with Dr Luke, and refused to show up to studio sessions. Her team wrote in an email in April 2012 that they should "battle [Dr Luke] in the press" and "take down his business"

Page 7

Dr Luke refused to renegotiate, and Kesha stopped paying royalties, doing a bunch of business stuff. She hired two new lawyers.

October 2013 Kesha's mother threatened Dr Luke, arguing if he didn't renegotiate, she would "tell the truth" and make public that he drugged and raped Kesha; she then sent an email to a blogger named Michele Eisele, who started the "Free Kesha" movement

Pages 7/8:

Summer 2014, Kesha's new team brought allegations to Sony that Dr Luke had drugged and raped her; her team prepared a press plan: "Our goal is to help extricate CLIENT K from her current professional relationship with PERSON L by inciting a deluge of negative media attention and public pressure on the basis of the horrific personal abuses presented in the lawsuit"

October 2014: Kesha sued Dr Luke in California (California Action) for sexual assault, harassment, gender violence, unfair competition in violation of California law; Dr Luke commenced the case; Kesha withdrew the California Action after the judge determined the contracts' clauses mandated proceeding in New York

December 2014: Dr Luke filed his complaints for defamation

July 2015 Kesha filed counterclaims against Dr Luke and Sony, which they moved to dismiss

September 2015: Kesha sought preliminary injunction to allow her to keep making/releasing music without agreements from Dr Luke/Sony.

c. October 2015, Kesha amended her counterclaims to include claims she previously brought in the California Action, which Dr Luke and Sony had sought to dismiss.

In February 2016, after oral arguments, Kesha's preliminary-injunction motion were denied.

April 2016 all but one of Kesha's counterclaims were dismissed "and denied leave to amend because even if the sexual assault occurred, the counterclaims could not be maintained."

Page 9:

Kesha appealed, but later withdrew her appeals.

March 2017: Court held that Kesha failed to perform under the KMI Agreement; the Appellate Division affirmed the decision

August 2018: Dr Luke/Sony were granted the right to file a third amended complaint alleging "the California complaint was a sham maliciously filed solely to defame plaintiffs" based on four grounds: 1) defamtion for the sexual assault allegation, 2) defamation based on the allegation Kesha made to Lady Gaga that Dr Luke raped Katy Perry 3) breach of KMI Agreement and 4) breach of Prescription Agreement

Page 10:

Kesha answered the amended complaint and asserted 39 affirmative defenses in addition to her remaining counterclaim

September 2018: Dr Luke/Sony request jury trial

Dr Luke countersued for defamation

The rest of the document is the Summary Judgement - I'd highly recommend anyone with any interest to skim/read this section:

Page 10- Beginning of Summary Judgement discussion

Page 11 - acknowledgement that both parties have moved for partial summary judgement on legal issues; this case cannot be fulled resolved without an assessment of credibility. If a jury finds that Kesha is lying about the rape allegations, she cannot be held liable for defamation

12-16: explanation of why Dr Luke cannot be considered a public figure, replete with legal precedents including: Dr Luke was thrust into the spotlight by Kesha's accusations, he never sought publicity or to sway public opinion

16-19: Kesha's responsibility (and knowing lack thereof) when it comes to using her press agent, lawyer, mother, bloggers as mouthpieces to sway public opinion while giving her deniability. "Significantly, there is no evidence that Kesha ever stopped [her lawyer] from engaging in these usual activities to advance her cause". When it came to the originator of the Free Kesha movement: "Kesha even told Eisele to delete their text messages because 'it just can't seem we are as close as we are'"

20-23 Discussion about defenses to defamation, and Kesha's move for summary judgement dismissal of defamation based on whether her California Action was brought in good faith

Page 23-24 - Discussion surrounding the fact that Katy Perry denies Dr Luke ever raped her, Kesha is being sued for defaming him by misleading Lady Gaga; liability for defamation is sufficient if even only one person is being told the lie, in this case Gaga.

24-31 - Breach of Contract details, including what she owes, what she disputes, what she doesn't dispute;

31-32 - Judge's orders, including dismissing/denying Kesha's contract allegations, ordering her payment amount, ordering that her statement about Dr Luke to Lady Gaga were defamatory, etc.

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