Bt1 5,213 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: So first of all, the final results have not been released and Pete is only winning by 3 state delegate equivalents with 3% still reporting. So, there's no actual winner as of this time per SDEs. However, Bernie does have a popular vote win that cannot be beaten by the remaining 3% to report that is why he's declaring it as a win. Additionally, the SDE's do not determine the number of delegates that go to the national convention. The SDE delegates end up going to a county and then state convention and they are used to elect state chair of the party. It's the same thing as with Hillary having more votes, but losing. His attitude is similar with Pete "victorious " speech. I dont care. However some of you did. For me all politicians spin it how they like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 45 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: I agree with Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, Florin said: It's the same thing as with Hillary having more votes, but losing. His attitude is similar with Pete "victorious " speech. I dont care. However some of you did. For me all politicians spin it how they like it. The difference is that Pete said he was victorious with 2% reporting and Bernie has done it at 97% reporting. There is a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 So... Buttigieg placed a call this morning and is trying to get the party to rig the satellite caucuses for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, OG Gaga Stan said: So... Buttigieg placed a call this morning and is trying to get the party to rig the satellite caucuses for him. what did I tell you lmao They were looking for reasons to try and take the win from Bernie and this means that Perez took over the counting from Iowa and is trying to rig the election in Pete's favor. So sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 28 minutes ago, Florin said: It's the same thing as with Hillary having more votes, but losing. His attitude is similar with Pete "victorious " speech. I dont care. However some of you did. For me all politicians spin it how they like it. It is not, because the SDEs are the wrong metric to win In the general election, even though we hate it, the electoral college decides the victor. Here, the SDEs do NOT on its own decide the equivalent number of congressional delegates that go to the candidate, so it would be wrong to say that Pete has won based on that. His most recent #LetMeSpeakToTheManager response is clearly his last bastion in order to hold onto, because the fact that he might lose that as well has him shook If he loses that, media might turn on him very quickly. So he claimed victory, but did not win anything of value TOWARDS THE PRIMARY ELECTION. The popular vote on the other hand, is a good indicator of the initial success of the candidate, which As I have said like 20 times in this thread, is a much more effective calculator for the success of a candidate and their ability to get people out to be viable in a general, 1 vote only election. I'd argue that the SDEs should also be balanced between the person who both won the popular vote and had the most distributive turn out (therefore, again, Bernie and Pete would likely be tied or close in that statistic) As it stands, there are still outstanding errors of bernie having LESS SDEs than he should, but both will LIKELY get the same number of pledged congressional delegates. If Pete gets more however, it would be problematic, but there's nothing Bernie can do about it other than wait for the recount which would most likely correct that as well (if it is done fairly) 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmonzter 2,864 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Breaking DNC announces recount guys Sing C'est la vie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Also, I'm gonna say it. Buttigieg's team trying to get the IDP/DNC to re-evaluate the satellite caucuses importance towards SDE apportionment REEKS of implicit racism This is literally them asking them to make the votes of people of color and minority communities worth less than the white ones 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Also, I'm gonna say it. Buttigieg's team trying to get the IDP/DNC to re-evaluate the satellite caucuses importance towards SDE apportionment REEKS of implicit racism This is literally them asking them to make the votes of people of color and minority communities worth less than the white ones 🐀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Also, I'm gonna say it. Buttigieg's team trying to get the IDP/DNC to re-evaluate the satellite caucuses importance towards SDE apportionment REEKS of implicit racism This is literally them asking them to make the votes of people of color and minority communities worth less than the white ones To follow: The optics of this are TERRIBLE and would completely sink his campaign. "White Mayor with existing problems with black community asks DNC to devalue minority voters so he can win" Good luck winning South Carolina with that, the attack ads write themselves and they don't even lie 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: The difference is that Pete said he was victorious with 2% reporting and Bernie has done it at 97% reporting. There is a difference. Yea, but the candidates had their data. And he was right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 U guys spin it so much. U should be politicians. U have it in u. Always something is wrong and u treat it like it's the end of the world. Thank God that this wont happen in NH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Florin said: Yea, but the candidates had their data. And he was right. No he wasn't. That's what I'm telling you lmao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 20 hours ago, derpmonster said: They both have 11 delegates in the end. It's a tie so far. But you tried Still tied and Bernie is closing the gap with 2% more in Understand it is a close race, but whoever wins the SDE count will win 2 more national delegates (regardless of the fact that they both have 11 national ones now) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, MJHolland said: Understand it is a close race, but whoever wins the SDE count will win 2 more national delegates (regardless of the fact that they both have 11 national ones now) Provide a source. I've not seen anything that says that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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