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41 minutes ago, Halsey said:

Bernie’s lead and shrinking & Pete is catching up quick. If Bernie loses his NH firewall, it’s game over.:selena:

Delusional people might like his communist ideas but they are not as enthusiastic to vote for him when rubber hits the road, which explains such a discrepancy in polls. 

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15 hours ago, HorusRa2 said:

Just wanted to mention this in the thread. 

Bernie did win the popular vote on both the first and final alignments. In other words, Bernie did get the most votes out of the entire caucus. The reason Pete has won more delegates than Bernie is due to a statewide math problem. 

Say there were 300 people in a room. Say a precinct has 6 delegates. Say Bernie got 120 votes. To get the state delegate equivalents you multiply the votes Bernie has by the number of delegates and then divide it by the number of total people in the room. In my example here, Bernie would get 2.4 delegates. In caucus delegate allocation, they do not do decimals but they round up or down. So in my example, Bernie gets 2 delegates. Let's say Pete got 80 votes. This means he would get 1.6 delegates. So he gets 2 delegates as well. So even though Bernie got 40% of the vote in a precinct and Pete got 26.6% of the popular vote, they both got the same number of delegates. The reason Pete got more state delegates is that in the states that Bernie won big, the number of popular votes he received was not enough votes to get that rounded up delegate and he lost most of those to Pete. 

This is how Bernie technically won the Iowa caucus but for all intents and purposes the media are saying that Pete is the actual winner of the caucus. Due to rounding. Let that sink in. 

Welcome to the problem of politics everywhere

 

Here in Canada (which uses the same parliamentary system many in the Commonwealth use) we have the exact same problem that popular vote does not necessarily mean anything

 

I do wanna point out tho that many Bernie supporters dragged the crap out of Hillary Clinton for loosing even tho she won the popular vote, and by a large margin...

 

So those same supporters cannot now make a double standard and say "but Bernie is winning popular vote" :sweat:

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2 minutes ago, Economy said:

Welcome to the problem of politics everywhere

 

Here in Canada (which uses the same parliamentary system many in the Commonwealth use) we have the exact same problem that popular vote does not necessarily mean anything

 

I do wanna point out tho that many Bernie supporters dragged the crap out of Hillary Clinton for loosing even tho she won the popular vote, and by a large margin...

 

So those same supporters cannot now make a double standard and say "but Bernie is winning popular vote" :sweat:

1. These situations are not even remotely similar.


2. She lost to a serial rapist and a game show host, someone that her campaign actively elevated in the primary.

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If that one remaining Satellite county that hasn't been reported yet comes back with results like most of the other ones...Bernie will be the winner!

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