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7 minutes ago, Florin said:

An opinion with zero facts. Only someone that doesnt understand what he is talking about can say something so general. :laughga:

Caucuses are a very undemocratic way to "vote" and I can only imagine how people voted decades ago. 

I mean, same to you, I guess?

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2 minutes ago, ComeToJoe said:

space science tech GIF by European Space Agency - ESA

The phenomena of a Gas giant, Lighting up, also known as. aurora borealis. 

OT: Im curious how Biden will spin this though, his camp seems to be quiet other than releasing that statement on caucus night. :oprah:

He can spin it if he wins South Carolina and finishes in front of Pete in NH. 

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Chromatica
32 minutes ago, Bae said:

If you went back and read, I said that I could accept Pete won if he hadn't given 42,000$ to this app

For clarification, he didn’t fund the app. He paid the company for services, and he’s not the only candidate to have done it.

 

“False. Buttigieg’s campaign paid the company that created the app that failed during the Iowa Caucus for different technology services. ”

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https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8464590602?fbclid=IwAR1wVW410Lk2L3fx4awB84hlmrvULIm53twhYbNysYFbGmutcyIgbfvprF4 
 


 

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JusKeepBreathin
6 hours ago, Bae said:

Pete and Bernie should sue the Iowa Dem Party.

This is so wrong. 

Is it really bad for Pete and Bernie? We've been talking about them for days now. I think they both are getting more momentum out of this entire fiasco then if one of them would have just won and then we moved on the New Hampshire. 

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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Chromatica
6 minutes ago, ComeToJoe said:

space science tech GIF by European Space Agency - ESA

The phenomena of a Gas giant, Lighting up, also known as. aurora borealis. 

What the heck is going on in here? :air: 

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HorusRa2
3 minutes ago, Florin said:

Lmao and sad 

What

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Love this conversations and reactions. 

It’s not a conversation. You ignore every piece of evidence I bring to you and make excuses. You constantly sandbag on my candidate and expect me to let you post on here and let other people believe your bullshit. It’s a ****ing joke. 

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6 minutes ago, ComeToJoe said:

space science tech GIF by European Space Agency - ESA

The phenomena of a Gas giant, Lighting up, also known as. aurora borealis. 

OT: Im curious how Biden will spin this though, his camp seems to be quiet other than releasing that statement on caucus night. :oprah:

Most campaigns have seemingly moved the hell on, which is smart. Biden is already scrambling and trying to attack Pete for his experience, Warren surrogates are calling him out too. Bloomberg gathers his strength in the background:emma: 

Bernie should still contest if their numbers dont match (so should Warren, her totals have discrepancies as well) but they are all in NH right now cause theyve got a primary to win~ or lose :fan: 

私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから
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1 minute ago, Lois Griffin said:

For clarification, he didn’t fund the app. He paid the company for services, and he’s not the only candidate to have done it.

 

“False. Buttigieg’s campaign paid the company that created the app that failed during the Iowa Caucus for different technology services. ”

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https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8464590602?fbclid=IwAR1wVW410Lk2L3fx4awB84hlmrvULIm53twhYbNysYFbGmutcyIgbfvprF4 
 


 

Come on. All the Bernie supporters. Apologize to Pete one by one.

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Just now, JusKeepBreathin said:

Is it really bad for Pete and Bernie? We've been talking about them for days now. I think they both are getting more momentum out of this entire fiasco then if one of them would have just won and then we moved on the New Hampshire. 

Yeah, we’re still talking about Iowa after the state of the union, so this mess may actually end up helping them.

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4 minutes ago, Lois Griffin said:

For clarification, he didn’t fund the app. He paid the company for services, and he’s not the only candidate to have done it.

 

“False. Buttigieg’s campaign paid the company that created the app that failed during the Iowa Caucus for different technology services. ”

Source

https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8464590602?fbclid=IwAR1wVW410Lk2L3fx4awB84hlmrvULIm53twhYbNysYFbGmutcyIgbfvprF4 
 


 

I never said that I thought the money was used for the creation of the app :rip:

Why is he giving money to this company anyways? He's tied to it and Hillary Clinton.

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JusKeepBreathin
Just now, Lois Griffin said:

Yeah, we’re still talking about Iowa after the state of the union, so this mess may actually end up helping them.

It's actually worse for Biden and Warren. Most news have been focusing on their defeat for days now instead of their preparation for New Hampshire. 

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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Just now, HorusRa2 said:

It’s not a conversation. You ignore every piece of evidence I bring to you and make excuses. You constantly sandbag on my candidate and expect me to let you post on here and let other people believe your bullshit. It’s a ****ing joke. 

Yea. It's a fu'cking joke.I dont even remmember having a conversation with u now. So how you gave me evidence? :laughga:

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Tone down the hostility please guys :spin: debating is fine but take the knives from each other's throats :poot:

Anyway, what are the results? I'm at work and too lazy to sift through the thread or use the internet in a constructive way :laughga:

As long as it's Bernie and Pete winning (don't care who's 1st or 2nd) then we have a good progressive and a better moderate than Biden leading the pack, no?

Whimsical bitch
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1 minute ago, Florin said:

Come on. All the Bernie supporters. Apologize to Pete one by one.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+are+conflicts+of+interest+a+problem%3F

Please read the snipped first result :emma: 

We will have to wait for independent journalists to get more information on this story, because his answer does not satisfy the conflict or the optics entirely, there are questions remaining

(Also, false premise, I don't monitor everyone's damn posts, but I never said he funded the development of the app, but that he had paid the company that did, which is a conflict of interest)

私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから
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Just now, PartySick said:

Tone down the hostility please guys :spin: debating is fine but take the knives from each other's throats :poot:

Anyway, what are the results? I'm at work and too lazy to sift through the thread or use the internet in a constructive way :laughga:

As long as it's Bernie and Pete winning (don't care who's 1st or 2nd) then we have a good progressive and a better moderate than Biden leading the pack, no?

Pete is currently leading and projected to win in SDEs, but there are verified sources showing that the IDP has incorrectly input several bits of data :rip: Warren is missing over 300 votes or more, and Sanders was missing around 500. They had also given delegates to Deval Patrick instead of Sanders, and Steyer instead of Warren. This bit was corrected, but the initial discrepancy still remains.

I'm guessing that they will not fix everything, and thus we will never know with 100% certainty what the results are :rip: Pete and Bernie are predicted to get the same delegate total, or Pete will get 1 more (though that should be called into question since the votes aren't entirely accurately reported :emma: )

私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから
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