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1 minute ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

And new voter turn out was less than in 2016. I posted the numbers before being torn to bits here for posting the decline.  

Guess time will tell

 

Correct me if I'm wrong cuz I'm not 100% sure but Iowa is a mostly middle class white State no?

 

If so, Iowa may have a lower percentage of very passionate underdog progressives that really resonated with Bernie

 

I dunno tho, literally just a thought

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5 minutes ago, Economy said:

Guess time will tell

 

Correct me if I'm wrong cuz I'm not 100% sure but Iowa is a mostly middle class white State no?

 

If so, Iowa may have a lower percentage of very passionate underdog progressives that really resonated with Bernie

 

I dunno tho, literally just a thought

 

High turnout in Iowa was important to the Sanders campaign. 

“The way we strength the Democratic Party - to not only defeat Donald Trump or win back the senate and do all the other ambitious goal we need to do to transform this country - is to expand the electorate and that includes talking directly to working class people and meeting them where they are.” -  Sanders’ Iowa State Director Misty Rebik 

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/bernies-big-gamble-sanders-hopes-voters-surprise-iowa/story%3fid=68712073

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4 minutes ago, SKANK said:

 

High turnout in Iowa was important to the Sanders campaign. 

“The way we strength the Democratic Party - to not only defeat Donald Trump or win back the senate and do all the other ambitious goal we need to do to transform this country - is to expand the electorate and that includes talking directly to working class people and meeting them where they are.” -  Sanders’ Iowa State Director Misty Rebik 

Source:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/bernies-big-gamble-sanders-hopes-voters-surprise-iowa/story%3fid=68712073

I get that it was important but what I'm saying is, is it a State with a high concentration of his supporters?

 

Cuz even if he does energize his base, if it's not a state with a high percentage of his voters this might not be surprising

 

And my perception is that Iowa is a mostly middle class white State. My apologies if I'm wrong about that tho. I'll just go and Google it now

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JusKeepBreathin
16 minutes ago, Economy said:

Guess time will tell

 

Correct me if I'm wrong cuz I'm not 100% sure but Iowa is a mostly middle class white State no?

 

If so, Iowa may have a lower percentage of very passionate underdog progressives that really resonated with Bernie

 

I dunno tho, literally just a thought

Yes it is middle class white, but it was also middle class white in 2016. The decline in the very people that Bernie claims to motivate to vote is telling. Again time will tell and like I said before I think Bernie can still win the primary, but unless he motivates the people who stay at home he probably won't win the general. He doesn't appeal to moderate and conservative Republicans, so he absolutely needs the stay at home voter. Did you just see the State of Union that just ended? Trump was going after socialism in a big way and comparing it to South American socialism. Yes it was all bullshít but Republicans eat that fear mongering of socialism like if it was a hot meal after a forty day fast. 

That said. The only person I think of the top four that should bow out right now is Biden. This was his state to win and he failed miserably. He will not do any better in liberal states. It's time for Biden to go. 

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2 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

Yes it is middle class white, but it was also middle class white in 2016. The decline in the very people that Bernie claims to motivate to vote is telling. Again time will tell and like I said before I think Bernie can still win the primary, but unless he motivates the people who stay at home he probably won't win the general. He doesn't appeal to moderate and conservative Republicans, so he absolutely needs the stay at home voter. Did you just see the State of Union that just ended? Trump was going after socialism in a big way and comparing it to South American socialism. Yes it was all bullshít but Republicans eat that fear mongering of socialism like if it was a hot meal after a forty day fast. 

That said. The only person I think of the top four that should bow out right now is Biden. This was his state to win and he failed miserably. He will not do any better in liberal states. It's time for Biden to go. 

Guess we will have to see what happens. Still just 1 State so far (and not even fully complete yet either)

 

And I didn't see what your talking about. What did he say?

 

"Socialism" is of course a generic term to use as there's many versions and branches of socialism... 

 

It can even be a little arbitrary on a spectrum. How much taxation, government spending/programs and regulation do you have to have before you cross a threshold that is considered a "Socialist" society?

 

But my opinion on Socialism overall in terms of big government role, spending and taxes remains the same it has been for years

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1 minute ago, Maleficent said:

4 more years of Trump guys i’m calling it lol 

I wouldn’t go that far yet. If NH, Nevada, and SC all have lower turnout than 2016 then it’s time to get the maga hats out.

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7 minutes ago, LateToCult said:

I wouldn’t go that far yet. If NH, Nevada, and SC all have lower turnout than 2016 then it’s time to get the maga hats out.

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Also my hope is that people in my home state of Michigan (and this applies to Pennsylvania as well) have woken up after 2016. Trump won by such a small margin and a lot of people I know said that they didn’t care much because it seemed like Clinton had it in the bag and they didn’t think Trump had a chance of winning.

It could go either way, but I hope that people have learned from their mistakes.

OT: What in the world could possibly be taking this long with these results?!

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1 hour ago, FFXSoul91 said:

OT: What in the world could possibly be taking this long with these results?!

Do you know how long it takes to get all that white out and write Biden's name on the forms?

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1 minute ago, PartySick said:

Do you know how long it takes to get all that white out and write Biden's name on the forms?

Not to mention after that, make sure they take pictures of it all, and then drive those pictures to the headquarters. :ally:

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Just now, ComeToJoe said:

Not to mention after that, make sure they take pictures of it all, and then drive those pictures to the headquarters. :ally:

Yeah. It's like you guys think stealing an election just happens :laughga:

Trump had to do the whole Putin/pee pee tape thing to win, I mean come on, don't be unreasonable

Whimsical bitch
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NEW RESULTS: 70.8% reporting

Pete Buttigieg 26.8%

Bernie Sanders 25.2%

Elizabeth Warren 18.4%

Joe Biden 15.4%

Amy Klobuchar 12.6%

This is the percentage of delegates 

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