2020 Election Thread Table of Contents

[HorusRa2 5,005]

23 minutes ago, DavieX said:

Funny that is not what I hear but OK thx  

Sometimes what you hear is the result of keeping yourself confined to an echo chamber. 

[DavieX 330]

Just now, HorusRa2 said:

Sometimes what you hear is the result of keeping yourself confined to an echo chamber. 

Or maybe the result of not shutting my eyes to reality 

[HorusRa2 5,005]

2 hours ago, DavieX said:

Funny I didn't vote for him the first time I wasn't into politics but then i saw how the media turned on him (before they loved him)  after he won and how unfair right down nasty they were and they are still are to him and then i realized that the Left are nothing but bullies and cry babies that will lie and manipulate if the don't get what they want.  It is soo easy to see just turn on CNN is there 24 hours a day.    Don't go outside they said, stay in doors, don't open your small busness don't you dare try to make a living or else!  Then the riots and mass protestes began and all of the sudden it was totally ok to be outside, burning, riotiong, looting etc   Sure you can gather in masses no problem.  It is your right to protest no matter the virus they said!   Now is back inside! don't go out, wear a mask or else!   The whole thing is just a power grab just a joke.

Okay. Let's break this down. 

1. The corporate media, above all else, looks for ratings. The reason they are anti trump 24/7 other than the fact that some of the things he does is outright dangerous is because there's a market for it. People are going to watch it. 

2. the majority of the american people are supportive of the protesters. You can make an argument that the looting is a problem but what do you expect when an entire race of people have lived in a country for over 100 years and are still treated as second-class citizens by the government and structural institutions? 

3. If you don't want to be treated with intolerance, maybe you shouldn't also be the intolerant person. The left are not bullies & I'm not sure that you know what it means to be left or right based off of the limited number of posts I've seen of yours. 

4. I would argue that all of the responses to the viirus have been bad but the reason for the spread is when the virus gets to migrant communities. It's not migrants fault of course but our immigrants often live in closer quarters with several people and live in poverty. There was a study done in san francisco where the virus decimated a latino community but the white people in that community barely got the virus. The difference? The latinos lived in much smaller and more densely populated environments. 

Net, net, you can support Trump all you want but can we please stop the trolling and whining about intolerance when you are also intolerant of views you're unwilling to accept? 

 

[DavieX 330]

1 minute ago, HorusRa2 said:

Okay. Let's break this down. 

1. The corporate media, above all else, looks for ratings. The reason they are anti trump 24/7 other than the fact that some of the things he does is outright dangerous is because there's a market for it. People are going to watch it. 

2. the majority of the american people are supportive of the protesters. You can make an argument that the looting is a problem but what do you expect when an entire race of people have lived in a country for over 100 years and are still treated as second-class citizens by the government and structural institutions? 

3. If you don't want to be treated with intolerance, maybe you shouldn't also be the intolerant person. The left are not bullies & I'm not sure that you know what it means to be left or right based off of the limited number of posts I've seen of years. 

4. I would argue that all of the responses to the viirus have been bad but the reason for the spread is when the virus gets to migrant communities. It's not migrants fault of course but our immigrants often live in closer quarters with several people and live in poverty. There was a study done in san francisco where the virus decimated a latino community but the white people in that community barely got the virus. The difference? The latinos lived in much smaller and more densely populated environments. 

Net, net, you can support Trump all you want but can we please stop the trolling and whining about intolerance when you are also intolerant of views you're unwilling to accept? 

 

WOW I'm Latino and I didn't know I lived in such a small place! Thanks for telling me I guess I should move now or can I even do that since I mean I'm a Latino and not a White LOL   You people are so condescending and  the real racists it is not ever funny  

[HorusRa2 5,005]

1 minute ago, DavieX said:

WOW I'm Latino and I didn't know I lived in such a small place! Thanks for telling me I guess I should move now or can I even do that since I mean I'm a Latino and not a White LOL   You people are so condescending and  the real racists it is not ever funny  

You misunderstood what I said. What I mean to say is that immigrant families tend to live together because corporations pay them below market rate wages and often live in poverty. And so more people will live in 1 household compared to whites. That's not to say that doesn't happen at all with white people but it is much more common with immigrant families. It's not an insult to immigrant families and more of an indictment of a system already in place that I don't agree with that is oppressive. 

 

[TheAlexer 1,343]

24 minutes ago, DavieX said:

I don't know where you got  "hate" from I wasn't hating on them.  In fact i was saying that they need help and they should get help.  You are the one that jumped in the conversation and told me I was not welcome to Europe but now you are telling me everyon desevers to live where the want? hmmm ok

Oh and I'm proud of being an American so your "American" comment does not make me feel bad It

 I don't know where you got  "hate" from I wasn't hating on them.

I which world is this sentence "I would love to visit Europa but for what i hear there is alot of refugees and they have turned the whole place into another well" not incredibly hateful?? 

You're making them out to be a problem. You are implying that they their arrival has made Europe worse in whatever way (which it hasn't so stop that bullshit). They are not the problem and we as a privileged and rich continent MUST help them in any way possible.

 

You are the one that jumped in the conversation and told me I was not welcome to Europe but now you are telling me everyon desevers to live where the want?

Yes, you don't. Tolerating intolerance leads to less tolerance and thus the intolerant should never be tolerated. Was that sentence too confusing? Here's a comic

 

 

Oh and I'm proud of being an American so your "American" comment does not make me feel bad It

I didn't insult you by saying that you're American.  I'm saying that you can't equate your personal believes about the situation in Europe with the real experience of Europeans.

Ps. You can be proud of this random piece of land that was established on our collective planet. But patriotism and nationalism are just propaganda that lead to nothing but delusion and fascism

 

 

 

[DavieX 330]

3 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

You misunderstood what I said. What I mean to say is that immigrant families tend to live together because corporations pay them below market rate wages and often live in poverty. And so more people will live in 1 household compared to whites. That's not to say that doesn't happen at all with white people but it is much more common with immigrant families. It's not an insult to immigrant families and more of an indictment of a system already in place that I don't agree with that is oppressive. 

 

Then they should go back to their countries and end of story.  Nobody has them here by force and white people shouldn't feel bad because they have a better standard of life.  

[DavieX 330]

2 minutes ago, TheAlexer said:

 I don't know where you got  "hate" from I wasn't hating on them.

I which world is this sentence "I would love to visit Europa but for what i hear there is alot of refugees and they have turned the whole place into another well" not incredibly hateful?? 

You're making them out to be a problem. You are implying that they their arrival has made Europe worse in whatever way (which it hasn't so stop that bullshit). They are not the problem and we as a privileged and rich continent MUST help them in any way possible.

 

You are the one that jumped in the conversation and told me I was not welcome to Europe but now you are telling me everyon desevers to live where the want?

Yes, you don't. Tolerating intolerance leads to less tolerance and thus the intolerant should never be tolerated. Was that sentence too confusing? Here's a comic

 

 

Oh and I'm proud of being an American so your "American" comment does not make me feel bad It

I didn't insult you by saying that you're American.  I'm saying that you can't equate your personal believes about the situation in Europe with the real experience of Europeans.

Ps. You can be proud of this random piece of land that was established on our collective planet. But patriotism and nationalism are just propaganda that lead to nothing but delusion and fascism

 

 

 

TL;DR

GOD Bless the USA

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2 minutes ago, DavieX said:

Then they should go back to their countries and end of story.  Nobody has them here by force and white people shouldn't feel bad because they have a better standard of life.  

This is a disgusting attitude 

[TheAlexer 1,343]

Just now, DavieX said:

They go have them go back to their countries and end of story.  Nobody has them here by force and white people shouldn't feel bad because they have a better standard of life.  

Yes, they should. White people's standard of living is just so high because it was build out of colonialism, imperialism and militarism 

 

Do you know how many countries the US has destabilized and how many dictators the US has supported just to gain power and influence in that country?

[DavieX 330]

Just now, blankpaper said:

This is a disgusting attitude 

What is? Calling a Latino like me poor and implying that I live in a closet with 10 other people? 

Wait I thought you said you didn't have the time or whatever lol What happend?

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Just now, DavieX said:

What is? Calling a Latino like me poor and implying that I live in a closet with 10 other people? 

Wait I thought you said you didn't have the time or whatever lol What happend?

It’s not that I don’t have time, it’s that arguing with a troll like you isn’t worth my time. You twist absolutely everything to fit your narrative and try to make everyone else look like the bad guy

the blind worship of trump is bad enough, but the blatant racism and homophobia is even worse 

[DavieX 330]

2 minutes ago, TheAlexer said:

Yes, they should. White people's standard of living is just so high because it was build out of colonialism, imperialism and militarism 

 

Do you know how many countries the US has destabilized and how many dictators the US has supported just to gain power and influence in that country?

Wait Aren't you from Portugal?   Talk about Colonization

[DavieX 330]

Just now, blankpaper said:

It’s not that I don’t have time, it’s that arguing with a troll like you isn’t worth my time. You twist absolutely everything to fit your narrative and try to make everyone else look like the bad guy

the blind worship of trump is bad enough, but the blatant racism and homophobia is even worse 

A gay person of color accused of racism and homophobia?  I've heard it all! LOL

[HorusRa2 5,005]

9 minutes ago, DavieX said:

Then they should go back to their countries and end of story.  Nobody has them here by force and white people shouldn't feel bad because they have a better standard of life.  

I'm sorry that you feel that way. It's not that simple as some of them now have children that are now american citizens because they were born here. Would you rather the parents go back to their country and leave their children in the US? 

The only logical solution is to grant a pathway to citizenship for those already here and to implement human immigration reform that prevents situations like the one I just mentioned. By also granting citizenship, you will prevent businesses and corporations from paying them below market rates for their labor as well as adding additional tax revenue on the wages that are now being processed properly.