ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 38 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: I understand supporting whoever the nominee is, but why not give a push for the candidate she likes during the primaries? Cardi B for example would support someone like Biden if hes the nominee, but during the primaries, shes giving Bernie a push to be the nominee. I mean, we can't force her to be openly political, that's her decision. She'll say something or she won't, but I'm guessing she won't until close to the end of the primaries or until the general either way. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 50,320 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 38 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: There are tons of people who think Bernie is "not a democrat at all" and like unwanted in the party (because he criticizes them), and they blame him for Hillary losing in 2016 because he didnt immediately drop out of the race for her when he had a chance of winning still They also blame the like, 12% of Bernie supporters who voted Trump or 3rd party (when they should be focused on the like 25% of former Obama to Trump voters that Hillary lost and the abysmal black turn out ) Then there's the like, 5% of people who are just like "I aM a CaPiTaLiSt" and think hes gonna turn America into Venezuela, and racism/bigotry under Trump is acceptable. Those people are The first part could sound like a vendetta the part I bolded sounds more like a disagreement in politics policies than a vendetta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Twitter said: Biden > Bernie imo Literally how? he is a liar who supports war, corporations and their money in politics, tracking, everything wrong. He's against Healthcare. Like... What's the rationale? Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Biden 5,898 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, ItsTommyBitch said: There are tons of people who think Bernie is "not a democrat at all" and like unwanted in the party (because he criticizes them), and they blame him for Hillary losing in 2016 because he didnt immediately drop out of the race for her when he had a chance of winning still They also blame the like, 12% of Bernie supporters who voted Trump or 3rd party (when they should be focused on the like 25% of former Obama to Trump voters that Hillary lost and the abysmal black turn out ) Then there's the like, 5% of people who are just like "I aM a CaPiTaLiSt" and think hes gonna turn America into Venezuela, and racism/bigotry under Trump is acceptable. Those people are I mean he’s only been a registered Democrat to run for President. Before that, he was always independent or in random Socialist third parties I got drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 77,431 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 She most likely will not endorse someone until they become the nominee, which I think is the right move. Even among Democrats, if she endorses one candidate for the primaries, then you’ll get every other Dem who supports another candidate go against her. In all honest, she probably supports either Biden or Warren, maybe Bernie. Even though she’s all about political activism and battling the status quo (socially speaking), I don’t know, I just don’t see her preferring him over Warren or Biden. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔲𝔰𝔦𝔠'𝔰 𝔤𝔬𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔟𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢 𝔟𝔞𝔠𝔨 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonWhiteGirl 1,039 Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 53 minutes ago, M Monstre said: She most likely will not endorse someone until they become the nominee, which I think is the right move. Even among Democrats, if she endorses one candidate for the primaries, then you’ll get every other Dem who supports another candidate go against her. In all honest, she probably supports either Biden or Warren, maybe Bernie. Even though she’s all about political activism and battling the status quo (socially speaking), I don’t know, I just don’t see her preferring him over Warren or Biden. I agree, I thought she would at least support Biden or Warren but the fact that she only follows Bernie I think is her way of quietly voicing her opinion on who she supports. It's actually funny because Biden follows Gaga but not vice versa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Economy said: The first part could sound like a vendetta the part I bolded sounds more like a disagreement in politics policies than a vendetta I singled that out because those people have an irrational vendetta in the sense that none of it is about what he actually stands for. Like, he is not trying to install an authoritarian regime in America or overthrow capitalism in favor of socialism, no politician is So, it's not a disagreement in politics in that case, it's just... willful ignorance or brainwashing. 1 hour ago, Halsey said: I mean he’s only been a registered Democrat to run for President. Before that, he was always independent or in random Socialist third parties I said "at all" because people for some reason believe that not identifying as solely a Democrat means you don't have liberal values or believe in democracy, freedom, equal opportunity, etc He has clearly always been ideologically aligned with the core tenants of the Democratic Party. Even when he identified as a Socialist and was with Socialist-leaning affiliations - and when he was an Independent - he was algined with the ideas of the Democratic party. He just doesn't like that the Democratic party has become the party of the wealthy elites and moved away from being the working class, pro union party that it used to be in the past, and I can't imagine actually arguing that the Democratic Party has been better or more effective or even successful since it moved away from being the Party Of The People, so this doesn't bother me at all. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,518 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 For some reason I feel like Gag would like a more "center" traditional democrat like Biden or she may like a left leaning candidate like Warren at most. I can't see her going all the way to someone like Bernie but the fact that he is the only one she is following is surprising to me. Maybe she is in fact a Bernadista which would be a dream for me since I love him lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,938 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 7 hours ago, ItsTommyBitch said: She'll probably support Warren or Biden, and then whoever the nominee is. Not saying it applies to Gaga, but for all of the "vote blue no matter who" talk, there are actually some people who wouldn't support Bernie as the nominee because of some unwarranted vendetta against him, so clearly "vote blue no matter who" isn't so pure hearted afterall I think if she were more engaged in politics, she would support Bernie though. He's offering the most change and most positive vision for the future and that's all up her alley as an activist That is so disgusting and infuriates me. Clearly they don’t care about the country and only about themselves. Theyd fight right in as Trump Supporters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Economy said: The first part could sound like a vendetta the part I bolded sounds more like a disagreement in politics policies than a vendetta To a different point, I've seen some people who claim they dislike Bernie because he's "an old white man" and they'd rather support an old white woman. I mean that's just white feminism gone wrong. Because people forget that intersectionality matters. Bernie has fought more for issues that will affect women, especially low income ones who need the most help, than many actual women running. But if you build your entire identity and politics around idpol, then Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth 450 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 As a Bernie supporter myself (although I'm not American), I'd love if it she was, however, As long as she supports the Dem nominee I'm not fussed (Not that I think she'd ever support Tr*mp in a million years lmao) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Let's hope! Fingers crossed. Biden, Clinton and the others would continue with their horrible neoliberalism. (I'm aware Gaga is/was friends with both of them, though...) ( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 50,320 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 6 hours ago, derpmonster said: To a different point, I've seen some people who claim they dislike Bernie because he's "an old white man" and they'd rather support an old white woman. I mean that's just white feminism gone wrong. Because people forget that intersectionality matters. Bernie has fought more for issues that will affect women, especially low income ones who need the most help, than many actual women running. But if you build your entire identity and politics around idpol, then Yeah I even remember a woman bluntly saying that on tv lmao I feel like societies ever growing awareness of inequality issues is producing an odd side effect... Resentment towards the most priveledged As a white guy I feel attacked all the time now on some social stuff. In real life I've only felt it maybe twice it definitely happens way more on social media but then that just tells u what ppl think that they aren't saying I'm not talking about reverse racial prejudice or reverse sexism this is different. This is more like ppl upset at those who historically unfairly had it better but then hold it against the entire group in general That fact that some ppl actually get so triggered when some try to bring it up (I've seen others on GGD bring it up too) proves to me that it is indeed real but people actually try to justify it Not all white guys have it good in life (I can attest to that). And not all of us are insensitive towards POC or women so ppl need to chill with those kind of rude preconceptions. Yeah white men in business and politics have been opressive in society but of us are not responsible for that whatsoever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaTheExplorer 3,053 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 I really hope she's not Honey I'm gonna light a candle for Biden to win the primary elections I honestly can't see Trump losing next elections but I'm so tired of him at this point, I want anyone but Bernie to win next year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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