Baby Kept On Vegan Diet Died. Vegan parents Arrested.

[sampool 5,560]

30 minutes ago, gagzus said:

It literally says in the article he was unweweight and was only fed breast milk, plus had never seen a doctor... ergo not because of a vegan diet 💀 but still poor child they deserve jail for mistreatment of their child

No it doesn’t. 
 

It’s says:

39 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

Sheila and Ryan O'Leary told investigators that the vegan family only eats fruit, vegetables and raw foods, such as mangoes, rambutans, bananas and avocados, according to the News-Press. The parents supplemented the toddler's diet with breast milk.

Supplemented means “add an extra element or amount to.”.

So the breast milk was an extra to the listed fruits, veggies and raw foods. 

[goods 345]

12 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

Is it really ignorance when vegans get defensive over their unhealthy diet, force it down peoples throats, and now we have cases where parents are forcing their children on this diet and/or pets like dogs on this diet? 

[magicalgaga 783]

6 minutes ago, sampool said:

No it doesn’t. 
 

It’s says:

Supplemented means “add an extra element or amount to.”.

So the breast milk was an extra to the listed fruits, veggies and raw foods. 

Literally THIS. The only problem I have with this whole thread is that people don't understand the meaning of the word 'supplement'. 

[sampool 5,560]

23 minutes ago, March34th said:

girl it's not about that. read the article. the child was fed literally only breast milk. 

Debunked. Next. 
 

OT: Just a proof that the human body wasn’t designed to go fully herbivore. As omnivores we need animal products to sustain a healthy body, it’s a fact whether you like it or not. 

[March34th 1,973]

Just now, xoxo Craig said:

This is factually incorrect, but okay

crazy how that works

here's some sources for u to educate yourself bby

on meat causing prostate cancer/increasing risk of prostate cancer: https://www.myoleanfitness.com/red-meat-and-cancer-risk/ https://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjournals.org/content/4/12/2110 https://health.clevelandclinic.org/link-red-meat-cancer-need-know/

on milk raising estrogen levels and causing acne: https://www.livestrong.com/article/554285-does-milk-raise-estrogen-in-men/ http://sciencedrivennutrition.com/hormones-milk/https://www.westlakedermatology.com/blog/does-drinking-milk-cause-acne/https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/drinking-skim-milk-can-contribute-to-having-higher-than-desirable-estrogen-levels.28083/

on eggs and their sodium levels: https://www.fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/food/eggs/sodium https://www.mydietmealplanner.com/calorie-counter/eggs/eggs/sodium-in-1-large-egg-egg-white.html

I'm begging you, to prevent looking stupid online to please research this. No one is saying you have to go vegan, or that they're superior to you for being vegan, it's not that deep

[Supersonic 49,376]

43 minutes ago, goods said:

I've gone fully vegan recently and I'm certain that it's not vegan diet that killed this poor baby. Stop feeding into stigma!

The parents in question were "raw vegans" and fed their child a raw vegan diet in addition to breast milk. Not only the diet of the baby caused the malnutrition, the diet of the mother did as well. Raw vegan diets mess with the nutritional benefits of breast milk, she might as well have fed him water instead and gotten the same results.

Veganism didn't kill the baby, the parent's lack of care and lack of interest on how to make a vegan diet sustainable for a toddler killed it. The woman might have felt personally fine not taking any B12, B2, vitamin D, zink, calcium, ionide supplements, but this is what killed the child actually. Most of the nutrition babies actually need comes from breast milk, and mothers on a vegan diet really need to make sure they don't miss any pill. But unfortunately most raw vegans don't believe in vitamin supplements.

[March34th 1,973]

Just now, sampool said:

Debunked. Next. 

I don't understand how you've debunked me.

From the article:
"Sheila and Ryan O'Leary told investigators that the vegan family only eats fruit, vegetables and raw foods, such as mangoes, rambutans, bananas and avocados, according to the News-Press. The parents supplemented the toddler's diet with breast milk."

Could you explain how you believe you've debunked this? It says the parents supplemented the toddlers diet with breast milk.

[skedaddleBItCh 2,821]

Stop putting the baby on a diet

[sampool 5,560]

Just now, March34th said:

I don't understand how you've debunked me.

From the article:
"Sheila and Ryan O'Leary told investigators that the vegan family only eats fruit, vegetables and raw foods, such as mangoes, rambutans, bananas and avocados, according to the News-Press. The parents supplemented the toddler's diet with breast milk."

Could you explain how you believe you've debunked this? It says the parents supplemented the toddlers diet with breast milk.

I’ve explained it on the first post of this page. 

[Supersonic 49,376]

Just now, March34th said:

I don't understand how you've debunked me.

From the article:
"Sheila and Ryan O'Leary told investigators that the vegan family only eats fruit, vegetables and raw foods, such as mangoes, rambutans, bananas and avocados, according to the News-Press. The parents supplemented the toddler's diet with breast milk."

Could you explain how you believe you've debunked this? It says the parents supplemented the toddlers diet with breast milk.

No offense, but he DID debunk you. "to supplement" means "to add". As in a raw vegan diet, with breast milk in addition. It's doesn't mean "completely replace".

[Nice Gal 315]

I don't think parents should make children go on vegan diets. Let them decide for themselves as they grow. (Not saying they can have all the unhealthy food they want..)

Imagine having strictly vegan parents and your entire childhood was meat free. I would personally be devastated if my parents took those years of enjoying burgers away from me haha.

 

I read an article about the daughter of hippies in the 60s who finally tasted a burger when she's an adult. She cried and cried.

[March34th 1,973]

1 minute ago, sampool said:

I’ve explained it on the first post of this page. 

So you're saying that they supplemented the breast milk? I don't think that's what the article is saying, how I understood it was they were saying they supplemented (as in "added" to the overall diet) with breast milk. I think I misunderstood initially though.

But regardless I think raw veganism (only fruits and vegetables) isn't a healthy diet because humans need much more than just that. But that being said contemporary veganism isn't the same thing as raw veganism, veganism isn't the problem. These were clearly shitty parents.

[ItWasntLaauv 6,392]

Children can totally be raised on a vegan diet, these parents did it horribly and fed into the stigma that vegans are anti-science, calorically deficient, and only munch on fruit all day. 

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

7 minutes ago, March34th said:

crazy how that works

here's some sources for u to educate yourself bby

on meat causing prostate cancer/increasing risk of prostate cancer: https://www.myoleanfitness.com/red-meat-and-cancer-risk/ https://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjournals.org/content/4/12/2110 https://health.clevelandclinic.org/link-red-meat-cancer-need-know/

on milk raising estrogen levels and causing acne: https://www.livestrong.com/article/554285-does-milk-raise-estrogen-in-men/ http://sciencedrivennutrition.com/hormones-milk/https://www.westlakedermatology.com/blog/does-drinking-milk-cause-acne/https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/drinking-skim-milk-can-contribute-to-having-higher-than-desirable-estrogen-levels.28083/

on eggs and their sodium levels: https://www.fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/food/eggs/sodium https://www.mydietmealplanner.com/calorie-counter/eggs/eggs/sodium-in-1-large-egg-egg-white.html

I'm begging you, to prevent looking stupid online to please research this. No one is saying you have to go vegan, or that they're superior to you for being vegan, it's not that deep

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2019/sep/30/research-red-meat-poses-no-health-risk   

Meat does not pose any health threats to humans... however, the plastics and materials on frying pans do contain the carcinogenic substances. Eating meat is therefore CANCER FREE if you cook it on the right things, which goes for anything you are cooking. And if you want more info, use google

https://www.organicpastures.com/blog/2019/2/1/5-ways-that-drinking-raw-milk-can-improve-your-health#:~:targetText=Raw milk is an excellent,zinc and thiamine (B1).

Raw milk, or unhomogenized milk contain nothing that will increase estrogen levels and its full of ESSENTIAL vitamins like B1. It is not a necessity to drink, but for a baby and early years, its a great source for all their nutrients.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190916-are-eggs-good-for-you

On eggs... eggs are really good for you, and its not sodium thats the issue. Its cholesterol, which there have been studies to suggest that there is  no link to heart attacks, and that it can be good for you as cholesterol is indicative of good hormone levels

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

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