bxr 2,172 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Facebook Co-Founder Mark Zuckerberg testifies on his company’s impact on the financial services industry … Spoiler Rep. Porter (D - CA) to Zuckerberg: Facebook’s known as a great place to work — free food, ping pong tables, great employee benefits — but Facebook doesn’t use its employees for the hardest jobs in the company; you’ve got about 15,000 contractors watching … gruesome, disgusting videos for content moderation. Correct? … You pay many of those workers under $30,000 a year, and you’ve cut them off from mental health care when they leave the company — even if they have PTSD because of their work for your company. … According to one report I have — and this is straight out of an episode of Black Mirror — these workers get nine - nine - minutes of “supervised wellness time” per day; that means nine minutes to cry in a stairwell while someone watches them — would you be willing to commit to spending one hour per day for the next year, watching these videos and acting as a content monitor and only accessing the same benefits available to your workers … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR 3,996 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 They should not take away the free press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvnrp 48,353 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 "Rep. Maxine Waters: Do you fact check on any ads? Mark Zuckerberg: Yes. Waters: Describe what you fact check on. Zuckerberg: Facebook itself actually does not fact check." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G 10,512 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, kvnrp said: "Rep. Maxine Waters: Do you fact check on any ads? Mark Zuckerberg: Yes. Waters: Describe what you fact check on. Zuckerberg: Facebook itself actually does not fact check." That was the best. I swear he’s all over the place sometimes lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 He cares about his company's success, not of the people working for him or america or the world outside of that. It's not surprising or shocking to me anymore, but I hope for those that see it they think twice about any affection, admiration, etc. they may have for him or people like him. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G 10,512 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, ItsTommyBitch said: He cares about his company's success, not of the people working for him or america or the world outside of that. It's not surprising or shocking to me anymore, but I hope for those that see it they think twice about any affection, admiration, etc. they may have for him or people like him. Corporate greed at its finest... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audrey horne 1,180 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, ajames said: They should not take away the free press. Would you enlight me on this very point please ? I'm trying to catch up. Facebook becomes more and more evil and unescapable. We have to create and use alternatives. Zuckerberg scares me so much with his power-seeker yet frustrated attitude. With the Libra project, the whole thing looks so dystopian now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franch Toast 27,737 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 This women aren't having any of his bullsmack. Zuckerberg is such a pathetic, pompous, power-hungry moron. She/Her/Hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNJ 4,312 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 AOC like that teacher calmly poking holes in EVERY one of your damn homework excuses. So...is it that your printer's not working or sudden onset blindness? Um, Congresswoman...I dont know. Mmm-hmm. You don't know??? UN-f#cking-believable "She's an intellectual, your honor" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KleinGa 18,177 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 AOC and congresspeople in general annoy me with how they question. Can they give people a chance to answer? also this is was a hearing about Libra, why did the dems turn it into ads? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, KleinGa said: AOC and congresspeople in general annoy me with how they question. Can they give people a chance to answer? also this is was a hearing about Libra, why did the dems turn it into ads? AOC and others like Kamala in the past and many more literally just ask YES or NO questions. You can elaborate on your answer after you say yes or no. But the fact that most answers start with “well.....congresswoman” anyways: AOC stomping on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KleinGa 18,177 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, Arturo said: AOC and others like Kamala in the past and many more literally just ask YES or NO questions. You can elaborate on your answer after you say yes or no. But the fact that most answers start with “well.....congresswoman” anyways: AOC stomping on him. I'm sorry but answers to questions aren't always simple as YES or NO. For example, the question about whether Facebook fact checks ads. Facebook employs an independent fact checking agency to fact check its ads. Therefore, the answer to the question isn't a simple yes or a no because Facebook itself doesn't fact check the ads but it employs a company to do so. He tries to explain that but all they want is YES or NO simply to please their constituents that they're being hard on the big bad wolf that is Mark Zuckerberg and tech. On ANOTHER ponint, do you really think if he answered a simple yes or no, they would allow him to elaborate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, KleinGa said: I'm sorry but answers to questions aren't always simple as YES or NO. For example, the question about whether Facebook fact checks ads. Facebook employs an independent fact checking agency to fact check its ads. Therefore, the answer to the question isn't a simple yes or a no because Facebook itself doesn't fact check the ads but it employs a company to do so. He tries to explain that but all they want is YES or NO simply to please their constituents that they're being hard on the big bad wolf that is Mark Zuckerberg and tech. On ANOTHER ponint, do you really think if he answered a simple yes or no, they would allow him to elaborate? Answers to questions where they end the question by asking “...yes or no” are literally simple yes or no questions. He’s testifying in front of Congress for the sole purpose of Representative and Senators asking him several questions in the small time they’re allotted. The time allotted is mostly for questioning which is why she and other congresspeople are nice enough to present questions in the yes or no format. Anyways, I don’t know what possibility is worse after that disastrous performance by Zuckerberg, the possibility that you’re defending him or the fact that you don’t like AOC so just trying to paint her in a negative light when she’s just doing her job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KleinGa 18,177 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Arturo said: Answers to questions where they end the question by asking “...yes or no” are literally simple yes or no questions. He’s testifying in front of Congress for the sole purpose of Representative and Senators asking him several questions in the small time they’re allotted. The time allotted is mostly for questioning which is why she and other congresspeople are nice enough to present questions in the yes or no format. That's the problem. They can't expect answers to Yes or No questions if the answers are more complicated. They asked him "yes or no" to the fact checking one and as I pointed out that's not a yes or no question. People tried to make fun of him for saying "yes" to the question about whether facebook fact checks and then saying "well facebook doesn't actually factcheck" is the perfect example of this. It's not a yes or no question same way other questions are not yes or no. Regarding time, it is their jobs to get information out of him but not if that information isn't telling the whole story. The way politicians question is with politics and political outcomes in mind. They have no interest really in getting information from him to the general public. Things as complicated as the role of technology in democracy, politics, free speech, the market etc cannot be simply put with yes or no questions. The public was watching, he deserved every right to elaborate as much as possible. 6 minutes ago, Arturo said: Anyways, I don’t know what possibility is worse after that disastrous performance by Zuckerberg, the possibility that you’re defending him or the fact that you don’t like AOC so just trying to paint her in a negative light when she’s just doing her job. I am in no way defending Mark. I am actually a big fan of AOC. I'm very happy that a young person who actually understands the dynamics of tech is on this committee and in congress. She's an inspiration to everyone fighting grassroots campaigns. I may have issues with her policy and stances but I support her! I simply pointed out that politicians tend to ask certain questions to please their constituents and that's not "their job". Their job is to present all the information to the public as possible. Cutting him off, shouting down on him or asking him leading and biased questions isn't the way to do that. The fact that you're applauding AOC and others for how they question is indicative that AOC (and the others) did their jobs in making sure that their constituents (and the people who support them) remain pleased and that will obviously translate to the ballot on their next elections. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresco 1,688 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 We already have a bunch of crypto currencies and wallets, so I think he is late to the party. Peg it to a gold standard. Some people actually want that, a currency pegged to gold held in a vault. I don't like that he is a CEO that can't be fired, because he owns facebook stock that includes multiple votes per share. I don't trust a new international currency to a corporate dictator. He didn't provide a satisfactory answer to how much control facebook has over Libra, which he tried to claim was separate. Valid points made are that this service would be used for illegal activity payments, including child trafficking, drugs, etc. It would eventually limit the effectiveness of the federal reserve to manage money supply. So many regulations exist for consumer protections against fraud and theft with the current banking and credit card systems. That's just very complicated to replace all of that regulation with a new digital currency that needs new regulation. Credit cards currently will automatically do foreign exchange for each purchase, for a large fee. It's really all about facebook getting into a position where they can collect fees and compete with Visa and Mastercard, imo. I could be wrong, I don't know that much about Libra, but I did watch his testimony. He wants the Libra company based in Switzerland, so the US government can't get access to see any of it. Yet he wants US regulators to bless it. He eventually said that they hire a third party to fact check ads. But not political ads. Really? Then don't allow political ads on facebook, is my opinion, unless free fact check ads are run if the ad is challenged as a lie. Based on the last election, lies are everything with some candidates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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