Morphine Prince 109,647 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Former Rep. Beto O’Rourke said Thursday that churches and other religious institutions that oppose same-sex marriage should lose their tax-exempt status, taking the Democratic presidential debate into uncharted — and controversial — territory. The Texas Democrat was asked about the concept by CNN anchor Don Lemon at a 2020 candidates' forum on LGBTQ issues co-hosted by the network and Human Rights Campaign Foundation. “Do you think religious institutions like colleges, churches, charities should they lose their tax-exempt status if they oppose same-sex marriage?” Lemon asked. “Yes,” O’Rourke replied. “There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break for anyone, or any institution, any organization in America, that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us. And so as president, we are going to make that a priority, and we are going to stop those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans.” O’Rourke appeared to go dramatically further than the existing political and legal conversation over LGBTQ rights and religious discrimination, which has largely centered on questions of whether private businesses can decline services to customers or refuse to hire or maintain employees on the basis of sexual orientation or transgender status. Other recent cases have been concerned with the basis on which religious schools can hire or fire staff. The comments drew applause at the event, but quickly circulated among conservative commentators and drew condemnation from activists that have defended religious institutions in related legal fights. “Beto O’Rourke’s threat is a direct affront to the constitutional guarantee of religious liberty,” Kelly Shackelford, president of First Liberty Institute, said in a statement. In another statement, Republican Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska called O'Rourke's remarks "bigoted nonsense" that "would target a lot of sincere Christians, Jews, and Muslims." "This extreme intolerance is un-American," Sasse added. O'Rourke on Saturday defended his comments hours after President Donald Trump referred to him as a "wacko" over the proposal. "This from a man who’s used his office to stoke hate, fear, and discrimination. Who tried to ban Muslims," O'Rourke said in a tweet. "Anyone can believe what they want —but organizations that discriminate when they provide public services should not be tax-exempt. In an e-mail, O'Rourke spokeswoman Aleigha Cavalier suggested the candidate had been misinterpreted, but did not elaborate on his position in detail. “Of course, Beto was referring to religious institutions who take discriminatory action," she said. "The extreme right is distorting this for their own agenda.” Cavalier added that O'Rourke defined discriminatory action as "denying public accommodation" on the basis of gender, sexuality, or marriage. A Human Rights Campaign Foundation spokesman said the group does not have a formal position on the issue O'Rourke raised. It’s unlikely that efforts to end tax-exempt status for many religious organizations on the basis of opposition to same-sex marriage would pass legal muster given recent precedent upholding a variety of constitutional protections for churches, clergy and religious rituals. Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/o-rourke-says-churches-against-gay-marriage-should-lose-tax-n1065186 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,647 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Yup, he is done. Might as well drop out now. He could have gone far if his campaign was well managed. Just drop out and run for Senate again please. As a Texan myself I think he could do a lot of good in this state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 125,703 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Churches and other religious institutions shouldn't be tax exempt period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Yup, he is done. Might as well drop out now. He could have gone far if his campaign was well managed. Just drop out and run for Senate again please. As a Texan myself I think he could do a lot of good in this state. Between this and the gun thing, could he really win statewide in Texas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,647 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Born To Slay said: Between this and the gun thing, could he really win statewide in Texas? I feel like it will hurt him but it could be forgotten or clarified if he does run. He came quite close last time but honestly it will be difficult either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmistTheLight 2,269 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 "This extreme intolerance is un-American," Tell that to the people you discriminate But yeah, his campaign is done for, there's a reason even Trump want to stay on the churches' good side. Liberaté mi amor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Yeah when he made that comment a few days ago I was like It's kind of an RIP situation to his campaign run now. Maybe he'll focus on Texas again? But I wonder how much his campaign has affected the voting public here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 125,703 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, AdmistTheLight said: "This extreme intolerance is un-American," Tell that to the people you discriminate "America is a free country, we should be allowed to discriminate against whoever we want to" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItWasntLaauv 6,392 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: Churches and other religious institutions shouldn't be tax exempt period. Loving this logical energy, luv!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Bardot 3,990 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Churches need to pay taxes pooiota Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBannedShadow 3,424 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 All religious institutes should lose their tax benefits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,415 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 So he's cooked for this election but I can't lie...I love him for speaking the absolute truth Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Props to him for speaking facts and being unapologetic about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaney 5,515 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I agree! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmonzter 2,864 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 It sounds good but As long there's a church of scientology You cannot single out a single religious institution for discrimination Tag all of them or nun Or set a precedent against one and then for all the rest. Sing C'est la vie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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