Prince Harry & Meghan announce legal action against tabloid Newspaper

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24 minutes ago, lego said:

25 Ways Princess Diana Broke Protocol as a Royal 

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/g3675/princess-diana-royal-protocol/

 

She made her own fashion choices.

Sometimes that meant going for something bold, like showing off her shoulders (a major no-no) or wearing form-fitting dresses to events.

 

Kate doesn't always follow the fashion rules either.

Kate repeatedly wears gowns and dresses that show off her shoulders. She's clearly is a fan of her mother-in-law's style.

 

She wore "low cut" dresses.

But don't worry, she wasn't reckless. Princess Diana's handbag designer Anya Hindmarch called her purses "cleavage bags," because the Princess used them to cover up her chest while getting out of the car.

 

She even spoke candidly about her marriage.

In the BBC interview, she addressed Prince Charles's longtime relationship with Camilla Parker-Bowles: "A woman's instinct is a very good one; obviously I had knowledge of it from people who minded and cared about our marriage ... There were three of us in this marriage, so it was a bit crowded."

The princess also didn't deny her own affair when Bashir asked her if she was unfaithful with James Hewitt: "Yes, I adored him. Yes, I was in love with him. But I was very let down." Within a month of the interview, Diana's press secretary had resigned and the Queen sent the couple a letter urging them to divorce.

 

Also the affairs were very classy... where was ever this energy about Charles, first?

There's no denying Diana broke protocol but that was a different time, more than 22 years ago. She was dealing with rules that are now wholly outdated. I wouldn't be fussed if Meghan broke any of these. The only thing I take issue with is the clothing choices. Bare shoulders should be fine as plenty of such dresses can look classy but low cuts and short skirts really shouldn't be the done thing. And I think you should be allowed to tell the truth about your sham of a marriage, even if you are royal. Diana's story is desperately sad. She was a naive, 19-year-old virgin when she married a much older man and apparently Charles only slept with her when she was ovulating. After she produced 2 male heirs, he lost all interest in her and never lay with her again, letting his affair with Camilla go full force. By all intent and purposes he married he purely for breeding purposes but had no affection for her. When Diana found out about the affair (she had been a faithful wife until then), she immediately approached the Royal Firm and said she wanted a divorce. But she was refused and apparently told to "take a lover" if she must but she could not bring down the royals by divorcing the future king. That's why she had affairs, she was basically ordered to as she couldn't leave the man who was treating her so badly. She was looking for affection where she could get it and they were both committing the same sin. I wouldn't normally condone affairs but this was such a tragic circumstance that I have nothing but support for the woman. I've never had any time for Charles, as I know a lot of others don't either. Many of us disapproved of his marriage to Camilla and don't want her to be queen, some even accuse the both of them of killing Diana. For Meghan to be walked by the aisle by an adulteror was in pretty bad taste (not saying it was her choice, though).

23 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

I don’t think your taxes should be going to these people either way. And quite frankly her appearance or demeanor is less important than things like cheating scandals with your mistress. Yet Prince Charles doesn’t have pitchforks outside his home. 

Of course, the affairs were the worst, a shocking thing to happen in the modern age. I'm so glad getting divorced from an unloving man, even if he is the future king, is no longer seen as forbidden now. Charles may not have pitchforks outside his home but most of us never forgave him. Read what I said above for reference. But there's more to bad behaviour than having affairs. I just don't like the idea that a scheming manipulator conned their way into the family to raise their profile because they couldn't get hugely famous on their own.

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1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

You're being way too calm about this, obviously because you don't live here or pay for them. You'd care if one of the biggest representatives of your country was walking about looking scruffy. You'd care if a foreigner took on the citizenship of your country, became a representative of your country and then wouldn't even wear native designers labels. It doesn't matter what you find appropriate or doesn't bother you. The fact is that royals have protocol as royals that must be followed. There's a huge difference between celebrities and royals.

"Just" a figurehead? Figurehead is a major role. Royals don't represent themselves, they represent their country. When she takes part in royal tours, she represents our image abroad. I even heard someone the other day say she was "the most famous woman in the world." I think that's slightly overstated but she's currently one of the most famous, for sure. And the Queen does rule, she has to sign declarations and all that. Just because she doesn't have the power of prime minister doesn't mean she doesn't rule anything. Being a princess is not about "having fun." Have you gained your knowledge of princessdom through Disney movies? Because the reality is nothing like that - it's attending ceremonies, cutting ribbons at grand openings, charity work, that kinda thing. And Meghan is not a princess. Non-Brits routinely make that mistake. She is a duchess. She will never be allowed to rule.

Well, yes, as long as we have royals, damn right they should follow the rules. If we're paying for them, they should do as expected. I don't see why that's so unreasonable. The Queen enforces that protocol. I just think she's got too much on her plate now to deal with that. And I never said they had to be descendants of God, just follow protocol.

But those protocols don't make sense. Maybe it's because I am Canadian, but I give 0% fck if Justin Trudeau never wear Canadian designers. And scruffy? Meghan having a hair bun is scruffy? What did she do, show up in pyjamas and toothpaste all over her face?

She's attending ceremonies, cutting ribbons, and doing charity work. Wow. Ground-breaking work that royals do. I highly doubt she's the most famous woman in the world. And she doesn't represent the UK, your prime minister does. She's a cultural part of the UK, yes, but holy hell, that's it. 

Here's the thing. I don't like Donald Trump. I know he represents USA as a president but I'm smart enough to recognize that he is not what all Americans are. Justin Trudeau presents Canada, but I know that he's a separate entity from individual Canadians. And if people take Meghan seriously that whatever she does, it reflects on UK and the millions of people living there... they need to turn off the tv and read a book. She is a duchess (thank you for the correction). That's all.

 And I don't see men getting the same reactions as Meghan is getting.

 

Protocols are protocols, but if I understand that my sources are correctly, those protocols are tired and old and gives little value. They're not laws per say. Royals are humans.

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1 hour ago, JustinTrudeau said:

But those protocols don't make sense. Maybe it's because I am Canadian, but I give 0% fck if Justin Trudeau never wear Canadian designers. And scruffy? Meghan having a hair bun is scruffy? What did she do, show up in pyjamas and toothpaste all over her face?

She's attending ceremonies, cutting ribbons, and doing charity work. Wow. Ground-breaking work that royals do. I highly doubt she's the most famous woman in the world. And she doesn't represent the UK, your prime minister does. She's a cultural part of the UK, yes, but holy hell, that's it. 

Here's the thing. I don't like Donald Trump. I know he represents USA as a president but I'm smart enough to recognize that he is not what all Americans are. Justin Trudeau presents Canada, but I know that he's a separate entity from individual Canadians. And if people take Meghan seriously that whatever she does, it reflects on UK and the millions of people living there... they need to turn off the tv and read a book. She is a duchess (thank you for the correction). That's all.

 And I don't see men getting the same reactions as Meghan is getting.

 

Protocols are protocols, but if I understand that my sources are correctly, those protocols are tired and old and gives little value. They're not laws per say. Royals are humans.

But protocols don't exist for world leaders, they don't have the same status that royals do, they aren't taxpayer funded. You can't compare the two. Although I've certainly got a lot to say about Boris Johnson's scruffy appearance, but that's another story. And she has her hair in a loose, messy bun, with bits escaping, dangling in her eyes sometimes, that's way too casual. If you wear a bun, it has to be slicked back, like she did for the Lion King premiere, so it's do-able. When it's loose, it looks ratty and untidy, like she's not brushed it. As for her clothes, a lot of them are baggy, ill-fitting, too short or inappropriate for the situation (she had bare arms for a memorial service - even I wouldn't do that, memorial services are not a runway show).

But being a royal isn't about being ground-breaking, it's about duty and tradition, not putting any of your personal politics forward and representing the family and country. Well, I don't think the wife of the 6th in line should represent any country, frankly, but she's been built up from the start to be of a higher position than she actually is. The media actively tried to make us love her at the start, but it just didn't work as we saw right through her.

It's a shame but unfortunately, a lot of the world does judge us by our leaders and representatives. The rest of Europe have hated us ever since the Iraq war, even though it was our prime minister who made that choice, the majority of the public thought the war was unlawful. Now we're getting laughed at over the whole Brexit debacle and in the midst of all this poverty in our country, our royals are taking private jets like they're going out of fashion and spending our money like water. I've been feeling for some time that my country's a laughing stock and I'm sick of it.

Harry is bearing a huge brunt of the blame as well. He's the one doing much of the preaching about environmental issues and then takes a private jet. His excuses for this were lambasted by the public. Even he's been cited as looking scruffy, dressing overly casually and wearing the same pair of worn-down shoes. Even his ready-made bow tie at the Lion King premiere was criticised. Lately, I've been seeing the public call him a spoiled man child, a hypocrite, dim, a whiner and out of touch. So I think men can be criticised.

Of course protocols should move on but within reason. There has to be a difference between royal and commoner otherwise, why are they holding this status? Why are we paying for them? What's the point of them?

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7 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

But protocols don't exist for world leaders, they don't have the same status that royals do, they aren't taxpayer funded. You can't compare the two. Although I've certainly got a lot to say about Boris Johnson's scruffy appearance, but that's another story. And she has her hair in a loose, messy bun, with bits escaping, dangling in her eyes sometimes, that's way too casual. If you wear a bun, it has to be slicked back, like she did for the Lion King premiere, so it's do-able. When it's loose, it looks ratty and untidy, like she's not brushed it. As for her clothes, a lot of them are baggy, ill-fitting, too short or inappropriate for the situation (she had bare arms for a memorial service - even I wouldn't do that, memorial services are not a runway show).

But being a royal isn't about being ground-breaking, it's about duty and tradition, not putting any of your personal politics forward and representing the family and country. Well, I don't think the wife of the 6th in line should represent any country, frankly, but she's been built up from the start to be of a higher position than she actually is. The media actively tried to make us love her at the start, but it just didn't work as we saw right through her.

It's a shame but unfortunately, a lot of the world does judge us by our leaders and representatives. The rest of Europe have hated us ever since the Iraq war, even though it was our prime minister who made that choice, the majority of the public thought the war was unlawful. Now we're getting laughed at over the whole Brexit debacle and in the midst of all this poverty in our country, our royals are taking private jets like they're going out of fashion and spending our money like water. I've been feeling for some time that my country's a laughing stock and I'm sick of it.

Harry is bearing a huge brunt of the blame as well. He's the one doing much of the preaching about environmental issues and then takes a private jet. His excuses for this were lambasted by the public. Even he's been cited as looking scruffy, dressing overly casually and wearing the same pair of worn-down shoes. Even his ready-made bow tie at the Lion King premiere was criticised. Lately, I've been seeing the public call him a spoiled man child, a hypocrite, dim, a whiner and out of touch. So I think men can be criticised.

Of course protocols should move on but within reason. There has to be a difference between royal and commoner otherwise, why are they holding this status? Why are we paying for them? What's the point of them?

Alright, I'll take a breather here with you.

There are cultural differences here that I will not understand, as someone who is a foreign-born Canadian citizen. I appreciate your time explaining your concerns as a Brit, and I'm sorry to hear about your experiences from the outside world. It's no fun to go through that daily, my birth country went through highly-criticized events, and I'm now recognizing that I'm doing the same thing that I wished others didn't do with my country. I'm sorry for that.

While I don't agree with the context of the protocols, I recognize that they're still important to uphold today. I don't have much more to say there 

I will go back to my original statement. I don't think her private letter should be published and exploited like this. If her father sold the letter, the media should have enough moral values to not accept it or publish it. I don't care about the contents of the letter. If she's rude to her dad, that's a problem between the two of them.

We should be careful: at what point is media is being helpful or harmful? You don't have to love or even like Meghan. But does this do anything other than making Brits more angry? Her outfits are public, her speeches are public, and whatever else she does in front of public is free game for media (though I caution against blowing it up in importance). But her private letters are private.

[Gimme More 35,410]

I'm a Brit and I just want to say I love Meghan and feel she is being targeted! instead of focusing on issues people may have about the way her and Harry do things, they rarely ever pick on him but focus solely on Meghan and paint her awfully.

i feel like the thread should close now

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On 10/1/2019 at 9:27 PM, JustinTrudeau said:

I don't understand the hate for Meghan or why she's so heavily targeted by the tabloids. 

Good to hear that he's standing up to the press, because this is just plain disgusting.

She's not white. 

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23 hours ago, JustinTrudeau said:

Alright, I'll take a breather here with you.

There are cultural differences here that I will not understand, as someone who is a foreign-born Canadian citizen. I appreciate your time explaining your concerns as a Brit, and I'm sorry to hear about your experiences from the outside world. It's no fun to go through that daily, my birth country went through highly-criticized events, and I'm now recognizing that I'm doing the same thing that I wished others didn't do with my country. I'm sorry for that.

While I don't agree with the context of the protocols, I recognize that they're still important to uphold today. I don't have much more to say there 

I will go back to my original statement. I don't think her private letter should be published and exploited like this. If her father sold the letter, the media should have enough moral values to not accept it or publish it. I don't care about the contents of the letter. If she's rude to her dad, that's a problem between the two of them.

We should be careful: at what point is media is being helpful or harmful? You don't have to love or even like Meghan. But does this do anything other than making Brits more angry? Her outfits are public, her speeches are public, and whatever else she does in front of public is free game for media (though I caution against blowing it up in importance). But her private letters are private.

Of course there will always be cultural differences present and royalty is very difficult to understand for people who have never had monarchies. Although royals certainly do Canadian tours but is Canada even really all that bothered or connect themselves strongly to another country's royals? I doubt it really, they gained independence ages ago and it seems rather odd that we still maintain that connection. But for us, they're major representatives, regardless of what you think about them. And up until now, they've all kept very well preened and follow the rules. Then this new girl comes along who seems to have no idea what being a royal entails, seems to think it's the same thing as being a celebrity and wants to rip up the rulebook and do her own thing. And even though she has British citizenship, she doesn't seem to like us enough to stay here more often. She's always jetting off on foreign trips whenever she gets the chance and even turned down the Queen's invitation to Balmoral, saying Archie was too young to fly even though he'd flown before then. Throw in her rare support of British designers and that she hired American reporters for her wedding and birth reveal and hired an American PR firm and it's just like she has little to no interest in being truly British, even though the Brits pay for her. And don't forget that William and Harry have had a big place in a lot of Briton's hearts after what happened to his mother. Most of us wanted those boys to grow up to marry women who loved them. So if we get the impression that there's a golddigger with a bigger agenda in one of their lives, we're none too happy.

It's a difficult one when a letter contains information that paints someone in a position of power in a negative light. If someone is upholding a good public image but then something is discovered about them that shows they're not as nice as they claim, shouldn't we know about it? I'd want to know if someone I thought to be a good person was actually a nightmare behind closed doors. And I always think the relationship with one's parents is a good insight into the personality. Fact is that a lot of famous people can be different people in secret. And I don't like to think I'm supporting someone who doesn't deserve it. Controversial, I know, but think about it - we've all experienced a time when we don't want people to intrude upon a certain aspect of our lives. And it's always when we've got something unsavoury to hide.

22 hours ago, Gimme More said:

I'm a Brit and I just want to say I love Meghan and feel she is being targeted! instead of focusing on issues people may have about the way her and Harry do things, they rarely ever pick on him but focus solely on Meghan and paint her awfully.

i feel like the thread should close now

Could I ask, what is there to love about her? What has she done other than promote herself? And I totally disagree about Harry not being criticised - he is getting it just as harshly, especially about the environmental preaching hypocrisy. Look up any article made about him recently, it's full of criticism.

21 hours ago, ThatBinch said:

She's not white. 

You can't play that card when there is numerous valid reasons why people dislike her. Most of us don't even see her as half black anyway, to most of us she looks white. Some didn't even realise otherwise until they were told. If she was white, what would be your reasoning then? Always look at the behaviour that's criticised first and work out if it's valid before jumping straight to racial discrimination.

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[lego 44,165]

On 10/3/2019 at 5:59 PM, StrawberryBlond said:

There's no denying Diana broke protocol but that was a different time, more than 22 years ago. She was dealing with rules that are now wholly outdated.

 

it’s amazing you seem to have answer to anything, you’ll justify things Diana did because it was “different time” and those rules are “outdated”, if that’s the case it should be even easier for Meghan in 2019. The things you listed as not classy are outdated as well. How you don’t see the double standard? You sound super conservative when you’re talking about her skirt lengths and buns, but then there’s justification for Diana’s bare shoulders and open cleavage dresses. She was known and praised as a rebel. And then that part about “foreigner taking citizenship of your country” and not behaving as you want her to, sounds very xenophobic. It means you’d forgive a “native Brit” for all the same things. You keep claiming it’s not a race issue, but for example Australian 60 seconds invited a known British racist Katie Hopkins to trash talk about Meghan like she does so often on her twitter. She compared WEDDING DRESSES of Kate and Meghan with caption “you can’t buy style” even tho they both looked beautiful. It’s so obvious why she hates her. Same with racist Daily Mail readers, most popular comments about her are ridiculously hateful for no reason. Some people are more subtle in their racism, you cannot claim it doesn’t exist. Anyway, no one outside of UK thinks less of the country because of her. People follow more what British politicians say and what a mess current PM is, for example. 

 

 

 

also: 

But there's more to bad behaviour than having affairs. I just don't like the idea that a scheming manipulator conned their way into the family to raise their profile because they couldn't get hugely famous on their own.

 

This part was very low. Talking like you personally know her and her intentions, plus like royals cheating while married are bad, but have you seen her messy bun?!? come on. 🙄

[lego 44,165]

Shouldn’t a pedo prince Andrew be bigger story?

 

 

 

[StrawberryBlond 14,922]

1 hour ago, lego said:

it’s amazing you seem to have answer to anything, you’ll justify things Diana did because it was “different time” and those rules are “outdated”, if that’s the case it should be even easier for Meghan in 2019. The things you listed as not classy are outdated as well. How you don’t see the double standard? You sound super conservative when you’re talking about her skirt lengths and buns, but then there’s justification for Diana’s bare shoulders and open cleavage dresses. She was known and praised as a rebel. And then that part about “foreigner taking citizenship of your country” and not behaving as you want her to, sounds very xenophobic. It means you’d forgive a “native Brit” for all the same things. You keep claiming it’s not a race issue, but for example Australian 60 seconds invited a known British racist Katie Hopkins to trash talk about Meghan like she does so often on her twitter. She compared WEDDING DRESSES of Kate and Meghan with caption “you can’t buy style” even tho they both looked beautiful. It’s so obvious why she hates her. Same with racist Daily Mail readers, most popular comments about her are ridiculously hateful for no reason. Some people are more subtle in their racism, you cannot claim it doesn’t exist. Anyway, no one outside of UK thinks less of the country because of her. People follow more what British politicians say and what a mess current PM is, for example. 

 

 

 

also: 

But there's more to bad behaviour than having affairs. I just don't like the idea that a scheming manipulator conned their way into the family to raise their profile because they couldn't get hugely famous on their own.

 

This part was very low. Talking like you personally know her and her intentions, plus like royals cheating while married are bad, but have you seen her messy bun?!? come on. 🙄

You frequently have an answer for everything too. It's not always a bad thing, it can show you've worked out your position fully. What I meant when I said these rules are outdated is that these ones mentioned in the article are really trivial. Damn right, children should be sent to school! What's wrong with a woman having a paid job before marrying a royal? Those things aren't the things I'm talking about when I said that Meghan's breaking protocol. The stuff she does includes getting overly close and hugging members of the public despite royals and public needing to keep their distance, (and no, this isn't on the same level as hugging an AIDS patient as Meghan was hugging British schoolchildren who didn't need this level of affection, this was PR to make her lovable - Harry even encouraged kids to do it once, saying "Everyone give Meghan a hug!"), doing moves for personal gain (editing Vogue), putting her political views into the open (these are noble causes but royals should really keep it zipped when it comes to this stuff), stepping in front of Harry many a time especially during introductions (the royal should always be the main attraction, not the non-royal partner), being too PDA-heavy (I've never seen royal couples be so touchy feely), updating social media instead of using an official account overseen by representatives and not telling the public the name of Archie's godparents and keeping details of his birth secret (if we're paying for this child, we need to know this basic stuff and we don't appreciate paying for private citizens). I never provided justification for Diana's clothes, I think the bare shoulders should be ok but short dresses and low cuts just shouldn't be a thing. It's not that I believe in this stuff in general or in my own life but royals are of a different status and must be dressed appropriately. That goes for everyone.

No, if someone is supposed to be representing the country they're a citizen of, they should support it wherever possible. It's not xenophobic to say you should show respect to the country you've decided to become a citizen of, right? It's just common decency. And Katie Hopkins may be quite polarizing and generalises too much and the comparison she made was a rather rude thing to do but out of everything she's said, that's the one you think is subtely racist? She didn't even show the women's faces in those comparison pictures, she zoomed in on the dresses. And I do prefer Kate's, because it's fitted, embellished and interesting. Meghan's, while a perfectly acceptable wedding dress, was ill-fitting, plain and boring which was odd for a bespoke dress. But Kate's cost a lot more, so that obviously helped it look better. And I read DM comments on articles about Meghan all the time, I go through countless comments and I have rarely, if ever, seen anything remotely racist and their anger is all coming from a valid source, a lot of which they go on at length about. You've clearly not read them very deeply or just looked at one or two. Again, I ask, what would be your reaction if she was white? Do you only look at a hate campaign situation fairly when someone isn't some kind of minority? I always look at the complaints and see if they're valid before I jump to any of that stuff. And maybe outsiders just look at our politicians more than anyone to judge us but it would just be good to see some major British representatives on the world stage that actually don't give us a showing up right now.

You know I'm not saying messy buns are worse than cheating. I'm just saying that cheating isn't the only bad behaviour there is and it doesn't mean lesser bad behaviour should be ignored. And I may not know her personally but I'm good with first impressions. I'm good at sussing out fakes. I've frequently cited people as snakes in the grass and no one believed me until some years later when all the bad stuff came out about them and I was proved right. And I've seen more than enough of this woman to say she's a narcissist at the very least. I haven't even got into her behaviour before she got with Harry (she was supposedly married before her last one but annulled it and tried to quash all records of its existence, she posted back her ex husband's rings in the mail, ghosted everyone who helped her get a leg up in the career ladder and was living with chef Cory Vitiello when she started seeing Harry). She has a lot of red flags going on and I wouldn't trust someone like this in real life. I think more people should be mindful of people like this and don't automatically trust them just because they seem nice. If I'm completely wrong, so be it. But if they divorce in years to come and all the dirty laundry comes out about her...don't say I didn't warn you.

1 hour ago, lego said:

Shouldn’t a pedo prince Andrew be bigger story?

Correct. It is a big deal here right now. But you can talk about more than one story in the same space of time. We're on a board where we discuss world politics one minute and then the latest pop video the next. It doesn't mean you don't care about the bigger issues just because you talk about lighter stuff too.

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7 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

And Katie Hopkins may be quite polarizing and generalises too much and the comparison she made was a rather rude thing to do but out of everything she's said, that's the one you think is subtely racist? She didn't even show the women's faces in those comparison pictures, she zoomed in on the dresses.

 

 

Don’t lie, please. She didn’t hide their faces, normal people don’t need to pit these women against each other all the damn time. 

I never said it’s subtle. Everyone knows why she hates her. Everyone knows why she was so mad about possibility of Idris Elba playing 007. Everyone knows she believes in “white genocide” and talks about shooting refugees on boats, calling them cockroaches and vermin. Everyone knows why she called for final solution. This woman is the bottom. And I knew you’d defend DM readers, you’re one of them, you’re not objective. 

 

Everything is “ill fitting” on Meghan (if it’s not tight enough?) according to you, she should ask you for a fashion advice, because you act like you know everything, you’re the fashion icon in your town I suppose.

 

and more recent, from ms “may be polarizing” or more like most famous racist woman in UK (I love how you’re minimizing her racism): 

WTF does this^ even mean? (I bet you have explanation, ill fitting scarf or something)

and again:

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I bet it’s strand of her hair, so not royally omg 😱 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/21/bbc-comedy-portrays-meghan-markle-trailer-trash-american-threatens/

 

 

 

I honestly don’t care if they later get divorced, but you seem very invested and wishing for it to happen. It’s sad. And you don’t care if you’re wrong. Sorry I don’t trust your judgment about people you never even met. Press can find “dirt” on anyone, there’s always some unknown jealous ex classmate or cousin who’d sell their story, even if untrue. If you’d have  really famous partner, media could easily  find people from your past who “knew  you well”, many could call you a snake and gold digger and there’s nothing you can do about it, if people believe in that or not.

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15 hours ago, lego said:

 

Don’t lie, please. She didn’t hide their faces, normal people don’t need to pit these women against each other all the damn time. 

I never said it’s subtle. Everyone knows why she hates her. Everyone knows why she was so mad about possibility of Idris Elba playing 007. Everyone knows she believes in “white genocide” and talks about shooting refugees on boats, calling them cockroaches and vermin. Everyone knows why she called for final solution. This woman is the bottom. And I knew you’d defend DM readers, you’re one of them, you’re not objective. 

 

Everything is “ill fitting” on Meghan (if it’s not tight enough?) according to you, she should ask you for a fashion advice, because you act like you know everything, you’re the fashion icon in your town I suppose.

 

and more recent, from ms “may be polarizing” or more like most famous racist woman in UK (I love how you’re minimizing her racism): 

WTF does this^ even mean? (I bet you have explanation, ill fitting scarf or something)

and again:

??

I bet it’s strand of her hair, so not royally omg 😱 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/21/bbc-comedy-portrays-meghan-markle-trailer-trash-american-threatens/

 

 

 

I honestly don’t care if they later get divorced, but you seem very invested and wishing for it to happen. It’s sad. And you don’t care if you’re wrong. Sorry I don’t trust your judgment about people you never even met. Press can find “dirt” on anyone, there’s always some unknown jealous ex classmate or cousin who’d sell their story, even if untrue. If you’d have  really famous partner, media could easily  find people from your past who “knew  you well”, many could call you a snake and gold digger and there’s nothing you can do about it, if people believe in that or not.

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Because I'd never heard of this moment, I went searching for it and couldn't find much and so I found a site that seemed genuine that ran an article about it and in the article, it had zoomed in on the dresses. I didn't "lie," this publication just presented it in a different way and I thought that was the way Katie originally presented it. But even so, I truly think she's just comparing the dresses. Most people said Meghan's dress was underwhelming. It's that simple. Never said I like Katie or all her opinions although she sometimes has a valid thought but just puts it down very rudely and doesn't always do her research. Needlessly criticising women is something she does all the time and no woman of any race is safe. She's said all manner of horrible things about many a white woman. She's not even complimentary of her own looks. And I'm not so much defending DM readers as merely telling you the reality of the situation. If there was racism going on, I'd say it. They were appalled when the "comparing Archie to a monkey" scandal happened, no one laughed or thought it was no big deal. DM readers say a lot of awful things that I don't agree with about people I like but that's life, not everyone's going to like you. And I've never bought a copy of the DM, I just read it for free online, just so we're aware. The reason why I read it is because it's the paper my parents have always read (we tend to follow what our parents do as it's what we know) and because I like the layout of the paper, especially its site. No other paper seems to have such an aesthetically pleasing, easy to navigate system. And for the most part, contrary to what a lot of people say, it's actually a paper that tends to report news as it happens, without using political bias, unless it's a specialised opinion column. I read papers for news. I read it, remove any potential bias and make up my own mind. I was actually quite shocked when I found out DM was a conservative paper as it never came off that way to me, it always seemed so neutral. Most people complaining about papers are basing it off stereotypes anyway, they've never actually deigned to read a copy, they just go by what everyone else says.

It's not just according to me, it's pretty much a fact that most of her stuff is ill-fitting. My point is, for all that money, you'd think she'd find clothes that fit and get a decent hairstylist to keep her hair neat.

I'm just as lost as you are as to what she meant with that hijab tweet. I've come up with a few theories but none of them follow through. But I will say that she really should have composed her hair better there. It looked an absolute mess, especially with those bits dangling in her eyes and it looks like she'd flung a scarf around her, willy-nilly. Diana and Kate should've kept their head/hair completely covered as well, though. That's the thing whenever I see non-Muslim women wearing hijabs - they don't seem to realise that the whole point of them is to completely cover your head, including all your hair. I tucked all my hair up when I wore one in a mosque and I made sure the rest of my body was covered as well, right up to the neck, no top baring any cleavage, decolletage or anything like that. If you're going to be modest, go all the way.

I won't deny that maybe some papers went too far with headlines (The Sun one about "Harry's girl's on P*rnhub" was ridiculous, though I did see that they issued an apology for not researching well enough to realise it was scenes from Suits that someone had uploaded illegally). But the only one who will ever go truly tawdry is stuff like The Sun. For the record, the way she conducted the pregnancy was so tedious - constantly touching the bump like it was going to fall off. If you're in the public eye, of course people will notice and comment on this stuff. It may be nit picking, but that's the nature of the business of being royal.

I'm not actively wishing them to divorce, just bracing myself for the inevitable. And what do you mean, I don't care if I'm wrong. Of course I care. That means I can amend my opinion to make it better. Of course it would hurt if someone printed an untrue rumour about me but that's the nature of celebrity. If you're a good person, this stuff won't come out anyway. Instead of believing celebrities who have only known her post-Harry, I believe the family who've known her all her life. I don't care if they're deemed as "trashy," they've got the inside scoop on what she's really like. The royal mantra is "don't complain, don't explain." That's partly why they've kept around so long. You have to realise that Harry and Meghan want the cameras on them whenever they're doing something positive but then the minute there's a bit of negativity, they suddenly demand utter privacy. Talk about having your cake and eating it too. I think that's what's been bugging the public about celebrity culture in general as well.

And some of their lives are definitely taxpayer funded, we know this. Yes, some it comes from Charles's budget but not all of it. And as for the security being provided by the police...police are taxpayer funded. If it doesn't cost anything, why are the costs of security even mentioned? While the bulk of their weddings are self-funded by  the royals, security cost £32 million for Kate's wedding, about £29-30 million for Meghan's. Someone's gotta pay for that and it'll be taxpayers.

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2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

For the record, the way she conducted the pregnancy was so tedious - constantly touching the bump like it was going to fall off. If you're in the public eye, of course people will notice and comment on this stuff.

 

Please do some research, this is completely normal, something almost every pregnant woman does, especially when the bump is noticeable. You’re aware the baby is growing, maybe it’s moving, kicking, it’s a way to connect. I’ve been pregnant more than once, I’ve done the same thing even in early stages and it’s insulting to maliciously  comment WHY a new mother would do that. It has nothing to do with feeling it would  “fall off”. It’s ridiculous she was criticized for it. She’s photographed 24/7, of course they’d collect pics of her touching her belly to make unnecessary story and you even fall for it. 

 

If there's one thing most pregnant women have in common, it's that they can't keep their hands off their growing baby bumps. For some moms-to-be, constantly touching, patting, rubbing and holding their belly can be soothing. For others, it's a way to feel close to the baby inside.

https://www.whattoexpect.com/news/pregnancy/fetus-response-mother-rubbing-belly-study/

 

I couldn’t read all your defense of DM and Hatie Hopkins, it’s very obvious to most people it’s a trash tabloid and conservative paper, just look at the nasty headlines. Also  most people don’t say that notorious racists “have a point sometimes”. It seems you only think racism is real when someone is openly called the N word or in that case a monkey, so what’s the point? You clearly have double standards for other members of the royal family, something you should maybe work on. Breaking protocols are rebellious for one, but totally unacceptable for “the foreigner” who must act impeccable unless she wants to be bullied. Even if you think you’re good person, there’s always someone in your past, acquaintances or family near or distant who won’t like you and who will sell stories to tabloids, exaggerated or lies, to make you look like ****. That’s how it’s always been. 

 

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2 hours ago, lego said:

Please do some research, this is completely normal, something almost every pregnant woman does, especially when the bump is noticeable. You’re aware the baby is growing, maybe it’s moving, kicking, it’s a way to connect. I’ve been pregnant more than once, I’ve done the same thing even in early stages and it’s insulting to maliciously  comment WHY a new mother would do that. It has nothing to do with feeling it would  “fall off”. It’s ridiculous she was criticized for it. She’s photographed 24/7, of course they’d collect pics of her touching her belly to make unnecessary story and you even fall for it. 

 

If there's one thing most pregnant women have in common, it's that they can't keep their hands off their growing baby bumps. For some moms-to-be, constantly touching, patting, rubbing and holding their belly can be soothing. For others, it's a way to feel close to the baby inside.

https://www.whattoexpect.com/news/pregnancy/fetus-response-mother-rubbing-belly-study/

 

I couldn’t read all your defense of DM and Hatie Hopkins, it’s very obvious to most people it’s a trash tabloid and conservative paper, just look at the nasty headlines. Also  most people don’t say that notorious racists “have a point sometimes”. It seems you only think racism is real when someone is openly called the N word or in that case a monkey, so what’s the point? You clearly have double standards for other members of the royal family, something you should maybe work on. Breaking protocols are rebellious for one, but totally unacceptable for “the foreigner” who must act impeccable unless she wants to be bullied. Even if you think you’re good person, there’s always someone in your past, acquaintances or family near or distant who won’t like you and who will sell stories to tabloids, exaggerated or lies, to make you look like ****. That’s how it’s always been.

I've just only seemed to see celebrity women do this stuff. It's like a message to the world of "I'm pregnant! Just in case you forgot!" Giving out subtle signals that they're pregnant before announcing it is also common. Meghan announced her pregnancy 3 days after Princess Eugenie's wedding. She attended dressed in a huge, heavy coat that was completely unbuttoned, drawing a lot of attention to her stomach and straight away, press and public were making pregnancy speculation. Turned out they were right when the news hit us 3 few days later. The most immediate family, including Eugenie, knew before the announcement, apparently. But the fact she couldn't even wait a full week for Eugenie's wedding to be calm down is very telling, she just couldn't wait to overshadow someone. It's generally the accepted wisdom that if you have a big announcement upon someone else's big moment is that you wait at least a week before the announcement. Considering Meghan was only about 7/7.5 months gone by that time shows that she could easily have waited a few more days. Again, it's generally accepted that you wait 3 months before announcing a pregnancy for obvious reasons. We still don't know if Archie's birth date of May 6th is correct because there was so much secrecy around when she went into hospital and he looks bigger than 4 months. Basically, she's been conducting the whole pregnancy the way a celebrity would - making baby bump suggestions, constant bump touching, keeping the birth date a secret initially and demanding that the child have privacy.

Most of its headlines aren't nasty, I don't know what you're reading. It's The Sun who specialise in sensationalist, ridiculous headlines. No, of course racism isn't always square in the face but I can detect the subtle stuff too, it's just that I'm not even seeing that. And when I say that Katie has a point sometimes, I'm referring to her non-racially charged stuff. I'm saying that what she says isn't always coming from a place of delusion, she just doesn't have a filter or any sense of diplomacy when she says it. I never said that it was right for Diana to break protocol, I don't think she should've. But she died when I was 7 so she was hardly around long in my lifetime for me to notice or care about what she was doing. Maybe if she was doing this today, it'd be a different story. I'd probably acknowledge that she's got a big heart but needs to rein in the informal stuff. What people came out the woodwork when Kate was this new to the family? No one because she was a nice person who nobody had any reason to dislike. There's never been any rumours of diva behaviour behind the scenes either, unlike what there's been for Meghan. If there's nothing to tell, there's nothing tell. There's been so many people saying stuff against Meghan that there must be a kernel of truth to it. There's no smoke without fire.