Justin Trudeau Brownface scandal

[Morphine Prince 109,768]

7 minutes ago, Judas18 said:

Exactly. Brown face didn't even exist.

Middle easterns/arabs are actually considered white in the U.S. They were not subject to segregation like african-americans.

Liberals are just being hysterical and shooting themselves in the foot by helping conservatives get elected.

My ME friends refer to THEMSELVES as brown all the time. So I'd imagine some segment of the population regards them as brown. 

[Judas18 485]

3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

My ME friends refer to THEMSELVES as brown all the time. So I'd imagine some segment of the population regards them as brown. 

Doesn't matter wha your ME friends refer to themselves.

The fact of the matter is, from a legal perspective, arabs were considered white in the U.S and did not suffer from school segregation and such like african-americans.

They were among the very first minorities to enjoy having the right to become full american citizens.

So yeah, please don't equate black history in the U.S with arabs.

[Morphine Prince 109,768]

1 minute ago, Judas18 said:

So yeah, please don't equate black history in the U.S with arabs.

I never did that but go off. 

[Morphine Prince 109,768]

Good article on Brownface and entertainment across the world for those interested: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/15/blackface-is-getting-critical-eye-us-brownface-deserves-same-scrutiny/

 

[Morphine Prince 109,768]

7 minutes ago, Judas18 said:

I'd like to see those who claim "brown face existed" to show any proof of its use in the 1900s?

Mexican immigration grew larger in the late 1900s, that's 1980-1990 for you. And that's why past the era of "black face" use.

Moreover, Trudeau here was dressed as an arab, in an arabian themed party. How is this related to mexicans?

Arabs = white, legally speaking in the U.S. So stop being oversensitive over stuff that don't matter.

 

Brownface isn't exclusive to Arabs, it can be of other ethnicities as well. Clearly. 

[ItWasntLaauv 6,392]

Okay I was gonna think this was gonna be an overreaction, like maybe he put an excessive amount of bronzer on or something, but this is straight up blackface lmao.

[Judas18 485]

1 minute ago, Morphine Prince said:

I never did that but go off. 

Again, please fact-check your theories.

Blackface was used in the 20th century to mock what was at the time second-class citizens (african-americans).

Arabface/browface did NOT exist, however desperately some liberal media try to claim it did. You know why? Because the supreme court already ruled from the start of that century that arabs are full american citizens (caucasians).

To conflate the two is quite frankly disrespectful to the history of african americans, especially for someone who claims to be liberal like yourself. This is hysterical liberalism, not real sensible liberalism.

[Morphine Prince 109,768]

Just now, Judas18 said:

Again, please fact-check your theories.

Blackface was used in the 20th century to mock what was at the time second-class citizens (african-americans).

Arabface/browface did NOT exist, however desperately some liberal media try to claim it did. You know why? Because the supreme court already ruled from the start of that century that arabs are full american citizens (caucasians).

To conflate the two is quite frankly disrespectful to the history of african americans, especially for someone who claims to be liberal like yourself. This is hysterical liberalism, not real sensible liberalism.

Stop putting words in my mouth. YOU are speaking about that I am not. 

[misunderstood 8,736]

Oop.

[Morphine Prince 109,768]

Not exactly brownface but this is a very popular character who was played by a white man interpreting a heavy accent Bolivian:

He even regretted this character later on in life: 

Though he defended the character as “a perfect example of a person that wanted to be assimilated into American culture, learn the language, always looked spiffy,” he retired the role in 1970 when he decided it was playing into racial stereotypes and embraced by people he though were intolerant.

“It was people I met in this country who would tell me ‘Boy, shore love it when you play the dumb Mexican’ that made me want to drop the character,” Dana told the Los Angeles Times in a 1970 interview.

 

[Sour Jube 215]

24 minutes ago, jprince99x said:

Trudeau has a track record of standing up for equality. People change/evolve/learn from stupid dumb things they did and they should be forgiven.

I suspect this will be the reaction of most Liberal voters, but could see this pushing anyone on the edge of being more progressive to Green/NDP.

The reaction to this will be completely different than if it were Scheer, as we have a much better idea who Trudeau is and have seen his policies in place.

At the same time, I feel like as a white Canadian I don't have much to add apart from this was wrong and unacceptable. I hope this stimulates tough conversations, primarily among white Canadians, on reckoning with racist behaviour and beliefs in the past, present and how we can tangibly change going forward.

[PartySick 173,519]

1 hour ago, scarlxrd said:

Ugh didn’t realize it was posted. Mods please remove this thread.

We can merge them, no worries. Just report AP threads and continue conversing in them as normal

[OBEY 57,109]

Ugh....

Still gonna vote for him to block the conservatives though.

[Akiki 3,900]

North America... land of the eternal prejudice.

It looks tacky but at the time people werent so sensitive. 

This is just the same old political gambling. 

But the sheep Always focus in this kind of nonsense. 

 

[Akiki 3,900]

20 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Not exactly brownface but this is a very popular character who was played by a white man interpreting a heavy accent Bolivian:

He even regretted this character later on in life: 

Though he defended the character as “a perfect example of a person that wanted to be assimilated into American culture, learn the language, always looked spiffy,” he retired the role in 1970 when he decided it was playing into racial stereotypes and embraced by people he though were intolerant.

“It was people I met in this country who would tell me ‘Boy, shore love it when you play the dumb Mexican’ that made me want to drop the character,” Dana told the Los Angeles Times in a 1970 interview.

 

Poor morphine... digging for gold