Do What U Want originally meant to feature Usher + "LG6 Tracc 1" registered

[Inferno 2,880]

5 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said:

Swime performance was about a rapist being a big and she is vomiting all the pain from that experience. That is rebelling against what happened to her. DWUW still does not make sense to me, there is no rebellion in any of that. People are have been sexually abused can normalize their experience so maybe thats what is going on? I honestly cant come up with any reason why a rape victim would do a video about rape with a rapist pedophile.

Swines performance was about owning your own degradation+exploitation as a release and expression of pain for liberation. Her involvement with r Kelly/that video, imo, is the same exact concept. Got nothing to do with normalizing anything. Not sure if you're really trying to comprehend what it's like to have that kind of pain or be self destructive. It's not always involving sense or morality, and what is moral? Who is more or less moral overall? Why does anyone feel entitled to make that call. Many thoughts.

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1 minute ago, Inferno said:

Swines performance was about owning your own degradation+exploitation as a release and expression of pain for liberation. Her involvement with r Kelly/that video, imo, is the same exact concept. Got nothing to do with normalizing anything. Not sure if you're really trying to comprehend what it's like to have that kind of pain or be self destructive. It's not always involving sense or morality, and what is moral? Who is more or less moral overall? Why does anyone feel entitled to make that call. Many thoughts.

I see that with swine and its amazing, but I dont see that with DWUW.

I was not talking about morality, but morality is not subjective! Morality is very objective and based on philosophy, logic, and liberty.

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15 hours ago, Faysalaaa said:

If someone claims to be raped and sexually assaulted, why make a song with someone who is known for being a rapist pedophile and make the music video subject about being raped? how is this an act of rebellion? none of this makes sense which is why I wish she would explain it.

because she didn't believe it of him at the time is the best answer...i don't believe she didn't know about allegations but she knows about Michael's alligations and she clearly doesn't believe them...if it was suddenly proven he was guilty would we then question her buying his outfits... i know it's easy to think that being a victim would give her this sense of whether someones a creep or not....but it's actually often opposite....she was firstly manipulated by the person who did it to her which creates complicated emotions and very twisted thinking.....and she held it all in for years and holding a secret like that inside you really f*cks you up. I think inside she wanted it to come out so badly that she started to display very extreme behaviour (as well as taking a lot of drugs to try and numb the pain) to try and get someone to front her about it because she could not say it without help but she needed help. when you try to rebell and fight against the all consuming pain of PTSD you can't think straight and it gets very messy. we can't ever answer these questions properly because i don't think gaga even has full understanding of it...

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8 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said:

I see that with swine and its amazing, but I dont see that with DWUW.

I was not talking about morality, but morality is not subjective! Morality is very objective and based on philosophy, logic, and liberty.

It doesn't have to be morally right to be factual though. The concept stands for both expressions whether or not people find her working with r Kelly amazing or agreeable because it wasn't. But the intent still was what it was. It's not directly from her mouth and literally never will be unless years from now she writes a memoir and dishes on everything she could never say now. But from my fan educated guess it just seems so obvious. It's of the mind of someone angry or passive aggressive.

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7 hours ago, Jadeykins said:

because she didn't believe it of him at the time is the best answer...i don't believe she didn't know about allegations but she knows about Michael's alligations and she clearly doesn't believe them...if it was suddenly proven he was guilty would we then question her buying his outfits... i know it's easy to think that being a victim would give her this sense of whether someones a creep or not....but it's actually often opposite....she was firstly manipulated by the person who did it to her which creates complicated emotions and very twisted thinking.....and she held it all in for years and holding a secret like that inside you really f*cks you up. I think inside she wanted it to come out so badly that she started to display very extreme behaviour (as well as taking a lot of drugs to try and numb the pain) to try and get someone to front her about it because she could not say it without help but she needed help. when you try to rebell and fight against the all consuming pain of PTSD you can't think straight and it gets very messy. we can't ever answer these questions properly because i don't think gaga even has full understanding of it...

Michael is different, we have zero proof that hes a pedophile and still dont have any. R Kelly, we have multiple proof like a literal sex tape and a document of him marrying Aaliyah who was a child. This is public information

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9 hours ago, Faysalaaa said:

Michael is different, we have zero proof that hes a pedophile and still dont have any. R Kelly, we have multiple proof like a literal sex tape and a document of him marrying Aaliyah who was a child. This is public information

Wow...

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1 hour ago, Inferno said:

Wow...

wow what?