IHE 562 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, ProjectJoanne said: How is Gypsy a slur? "Being an ethnically ambiguous person comes with a lot of privileges; however, answering the constant questions about my identity is not one them. Like many other exoticized women, I am asked on an almost daily basis: “What are you?” and “Where are you from?” followed up with “No really, where are you from?” after I reply “Brooklyn” to their line of questioning. When you tell folks in America that you are Romani, nearly 100 percent of the time they will ask if you mean Romanian. Often times, I will reply “No, Romani, which is gypsy but please don’t call us that because it’s a slur.” I’ve learned that Americans are familiar with the word “gypsy,” using it to describe a vagabond, free-spirited lifestyle, and have a faint idea of us as mythical creatures, but are ignorant to the plight of actual Romani people. So, who are Romani? More importantly, why do we need to remove the word gypsy from our vocabulary? Simply put, Romani are the largest ethnic minority in Europe, originating from northwest India, migrating through the Middle East, and some through North Africa, to Europe. There are Romani living around the world, with estimates of 10 and 12 million living in Europe andanother million in the US. Europeans imposed the word “gypsy” on Romani when they came to Europe, believing that we originated from Egypt because of our dark features. Romani have a history of persecution in Europe; it is estimated by Roma historians that over 70 to 80 percent of the Romani population was murdered in the Holocaust, a fact that is little known or recognized. Even lesser known, Romani experienced chattel slavery in Romania for over 500 years ending in 1860. Although it is rarely talked about, the situation for Romani has not improved much; we are still victims of hate crimes, receive inadequate health care and housing, experience segregated education, and die in prison. While policies in the US systematically discriminate in covert ways, many of the policies against Romani in Europe are overt, which is apparent through opinions from political officials. In 2013, Zsolt Bayer, co-founder of the Fidesz Party in Hungary, said, “A significant part of the Roma are unfit for coexistence. They are not fit to live among people. These Roma are animals, and they behave like animals. When they meet with resistance, they commit murder. They are incapable of human communication. Inarticulate sounds pour out of their bestial skulls. At the same time, these Gypsies understand how to exploit the ‘achievements’ of the idiotic Western world. But one must retaliate rather than tolerate. These animals shouldn’t be allowed to exist. In no way. That needs to be solved — immediately and regardless of the method.” These ideas are not reduced to words; according to a study by the National Federation of Gypsy Liaison Groups and Anglia Ruskin University, 9 out of 10 Roma children have suffered racial abuse in the UK. In Hungary, 60 percent of Romani live in secluded rural areas, segregated neighborhoods, and settlements. The fact that 90 percent of Romani in Europe live below the poverty line is an even more extreme illustration of current living conditions for Romani. We cannot have a conversation about the use of “gypsy” without mentioning what it specifically means to be Romani and a woman facing racism, classism and sexism, excluded from traditional feminist and Romani activist movements. Romani women experience particularly disparate treatment in the areas of education, reproductive health care, and in the labor market. Only 1.6 percent of Romani women attend college in Romania, while 90 percent of Romani women are unemployed in Hungary. Romani women in Slovakia, Hungary, and the Czech Republic were victims of forced sterilization, a practice that ended less than 10 years ago. Romani infant mortality remains an issue; it is double the national average in the Czech Republic. These policies that impact actual lives of Romani women are upheld by cultural attitudes, some of which people don’t notice they are perpetuating. “Her complexion was dark … She danced, whirled, turned around … Her large, black eyes flashed lightning … With her smooth bodice of gold, her colorful dress that swelled with the rapidity of her motions, with her bare shoulders, her finely turned legs that her skirt now and then revealed, her black hair, her flaming eyes, she was a supernatural creature…’In truth,’ thought Gringoire, ‘she is a magical creature, a nymph, a goddess, a bacchanae of Mount Menelaeus!’ At that moment one of the magical creature’s tresses came loose, and a piece of yellow brass that had been fastened to it fell to the ground. ‘But no,’ he said, ‘she is a gypsy!’ The illusion was shattered.”—Victor Hugo, The Hunchback of Notre Dame The media offers two stereotypes of Romani women: the beggar, who is dirty and exploiting social welfare, and a hypersexualized magical being who threatens the patriarchy. So, while the use of the word “gypsy” seems innocent, it is dangerous to Romani women. It conjures up a romanticized image of poverty and sexualization, which doesn’t acknowledge that there is nothing romantic about being a victim of institutionalized racism. There is nothing romantic about the link between perceived uncontrollable sexuality and forced sterilization. There is nothing romantic about being a victim of domestic violence but afraid to speak out because law enforcement won’t believe you or it will further oppress your community. There is nothing romantic about lacking political power and representation, and being left out of both anti-racist and feminist politics. However, that doesn’t stop the rampant consumerism and pop culture references associated with “gypsy.” Just to name a few examples: The Gypsy Shrine, Gypsy Warrior,Shakira’s song “Gypsy,” Fleetwood Mac’s song “Gypsy,” Cher’s song “Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves,” and the latest, Netflix’s original series Gypsy. There are over 2,000 “gypsy” costumes on Amazon and over 250,000“gypsy” items for sale on Etsy. When folks unknowingly or knowingly profit off of the word “gypsy,” claim they have a “gypsy soul,” or use “gypsy aesthetic” for a day at Coachella, they are reinforcing racist stereotypes of Romani women and dehumanizing us. People in the US must recognize the link between the language we use and how cultural depictions inform public policy for marginalized groups. Beyond language and the word gypsy, this is about how gypsies are struggling for liberation, and how Romani women suffer while gadje (non-Romani) profit off of our likeness. So before you put on that coin skirt and scarf, or proclaim your “free-spirited gypsy-ness,” remember that we already exist and will be always be gypsies and Romani." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nswain1110 3,066 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 What a sweet little ode to Gypsy -smiling- Follow me on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/natethetrailhunter/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeasonOfTheWitch 3,789 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 hours ago, IHE said: Gypsy is a slur. Edit not even gonna argue Edit I will because I still have this on my mind. So you say you understand Americans see “Gypsy” as a vagabond, free-spirited lifestyle, and the word here has no actual derogatory meaning (hence why Gaga was proud of calling herself a Gypsy)... so what is there to be offended about? You all claim cultural tolerance is important but when it comes to the culture here in the states y’all want to believe everything here should be submissive to the rest of the world. You don’t need to erase our truth because other parts of the world think differently, especially when our “ignorance” is a kinder alternative than those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJRocketMan 2,684 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Haus Swiftie said: what is pisces Swine and Dope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashellplay 512 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Haus Swiftie said: what is pisces dope ofc, dope is miserable and sad and they want to live a fantasy in marijuana land...... i can do the whole astrologica artpouppus if you wish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashellplay 512 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 virgo - dwuw.... virgos are submissive and servant and care abt what other people think taurus - donatella capricorn - jewels n drugs gemini - burqa libra - venus aquarius - ARTPOP leo - applause sag - gypsy aries - manicure sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dreamssss - scorpio pisces - dope cancer - goi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 52,878 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 the "Doesn't matter if your daddy get's pissed" line gives me chills every time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gibson 3,470 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I absolutely love the song its my favorite on ARTPOP and maybe my top 2 of gaga songs ever. However i just miss she didnt scream "I CAN BEEEE" right before the secons chorus as she does so beautifully in live performances. It kinda leaves her feelings more strong and imponent over this lovely song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,381 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 5 hours ago, derpmonster said: You know it's one of the few Gaga songs with a linear storyline and progression which is what also makes it great. It's almost a Springsteen song lyrically. FTFY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonSwiftAnton 3,714 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 It's the best song on ARTPOP. There. I said it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 It was good in 2013, but now its boring End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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