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6 hours ago, SEANGT said:

If you just...gave everyone 100% health coverage then people in rural communities, who are also often poor, would be a larger market for hospitals and they would probably open more health care locations closer to rural communities. ....Also could inspire more telehealth stuff for the same reasons. 

I like the visa stuff to get more professionals in the field - we will probably face a shortage of doctors if we aren't already. 

Overall though, seems like another health plan that focuses on compromises and what he thinks he can pass rather than what our system should actually be like. 

I'll remind everyone that presidents don't write laws anyway -- all they do is bring people together to negotiate. I'd rather come to the table with 100% coverage under single-payer medicare than start out with a compromise like most candidates want. 

Also I stan Warren, Bernie is good but tends to ignore race issues & women's issues because he believes his democratic socialist programs will lift everyone and do enough. I disagree. We need a fierce advocate for abortion rights, womens rights, and that stands up against racism. 

I’d say Bernie Sanders has been pretty clear that he’s believes in social and racial justice. 

Here for example, he talked in detail about how he would help African Americans. 

Sanders has also been a proud pro choice advocate 

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/07/bernie-sanders-abortion-rights-record

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HybridAT
14 hours ago, imnotyourbabe10 said:

Thank you for the post and insight on Buttigeig's latest moves.  I know we don't see eye to eye but I appreciate your summary!  I have to agree with SEANGT above me, though.

My contention and why I've supported Bernie so long is that not only is Bernie consistent on the issues over the years (not to say Buttigeig hasn't been) and has been fighting the good fight, so to speak, there has been a great deal of "Stop Sanders" Democrats as described in this article (and Buttigeig is part of them).

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html?fbclid=IwAR2S5_hs8Zq8QLNyAWADTIFDnfdCaFpxRUdIo6wDWOb8oSb-8-xTwhBB7XY

"The matter of What To Do About Bernie and the larger imperative of party unity has, for example, hovered over a series of previously undisclosed Democratic dinners in New York and Washington organized by the longtime party financier Bernard Schwartz. The gatherings have included scores from the moderate or center-left wing of the party, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi; Senator Chuck Schumer, the minority leader; former Gov. Terry McAuliffe of Virginia; Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., himself a presidential candidate; and the president of the Center for American Progress, Neera Tanden."

It's just hard watching people show support on social media for Buttigeig just because he's gay (I've seen it on Facebook, not really on GGD though!) or just because he is from Indiana (I grew up in South Bend).  But your post highlights the other issues that aren't so black and white.  Thank you! :vegas:

I appreciate that you are at least willing to listen to other opinions, no matter how strongly you support your candidate.

But I have to say that article, right  there, is the biggest load of bullcrap I have ever read. One of the many narratives spun largely out of proportion. It was just one of the many democratic dinners which he attended along with everyone else, because it is in fact important for him to form Democratic connections. Besides, no other reputable publication reported on these "anti-Bernie dinners" except this one author. Which takes me to the publication date, April. That's right around when Pete was rising and was polling third in Iowa and NH behind Biden and Sanders (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/4/12/18307668/buttigieg-mayor-pete-polls-democratic-primary-2020). This leads me to believe that this was nothing but a cheap smear attempt which definitely worked, to the point that rabid Bernie supporters (not calling you that) have continued to cling on to that narrative and still hate him. What else would be the reason to single him out when so many other presidential candidates would have attended that dinner too? I'm not buying that at all. Nope. 

Glad to know you're from SB. 

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HybridAT
15 hours ago, RoverLoader said:

Oh is he still in this? Cute :huntyga::ohwell:

Oh honey, he is going nowhere, he is in this till the end. Keep underestimating him, while his favorability increases in Iowa and winning Iowa is the first step in the race towards WH, and he's well on track. This is when his name recognition is nowhere as near as other candidates, Senators and Governors. It's only going to go up from here :sis:

Now take your condescension some place else. 

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HybridAT
12 hours ago, Oshawott said:

He writes pretty good fan fiction.

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Did you even read the proposal? You must clearly have some bias against him because all of what he wrote is pretty much doable. But ok go off. 

15 hours ago, Sid said:

That's cute but not Medicare for all :huntyga:

Which it doesn't have to be because even Democrats don't want it. 

"The thing is, though — according to new polling from Marist College this week — Sanders’s plan isn’t actually the most popular idea in the field. Instead, that distinction belongs to what Marist calls “Medicare for all that want it,” or what’s sometimes called a public option — something very similar to Joe Biden’s recently unveiled health care plan, which claims to give almost everyone “the choice to purchase a public health insurance option like Medicare.”

In the Marist poll, 90 percent of Democrats thought a plan that provided for a public option was a good idea, as compared to 64 percent who supported a Sanders-style Medicare for All plan that would replace private health insurance. The popularity of the public option also carries over to independent voters: 70 percent support it, as compared to 39 percent for Medicare for All."

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/medicare-for-all-isnt-that-popular-even-among-democrats/

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HybridAT
1 minute ago, Snorlax said:

Unless he has a plan for student debt he's still a no from me :nails:

He hasn't released a detailed education policy proposal yet (incrementally releasing like Warren does Medium posts) but he's all for student loan forgiveness for low and middle class income families. He's not for full student debt forgiveness. Will make a thread when he releases a detailed plan but so far here's what he's said:

- The cost of college should be lowered, but he does not believe in free college.

- Lower-income families should attend public colleges "debt-free" (no student loan debt).

- Pell Grants should be expanded.

- The public service loan forgiveness program should be improved, including increasing the cap for teacher student loan forgiveness.

- States should play a more active role in covering tuition costs for students.

- There should not be widespread student loan debt cancellation, given the cost.

- There should be more discussion regarding student loan debt forgiveness, student loan refinancing and income-driven repayment.

Wait for him to release a detailed policy proposal. 

 

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Sid
8 hours ago, HybridAT said:

Did you even read the proposal? You must clearly have some bias against him because all of what he wrote is pretty much doable. But ok go off. 

Which it doesn't have to be because even Democrats don't want it. 

"The thing is, though — according to new polling from Marist College this week — Sanders’s plan isn’t actually the most popular idea in the field. Instead, that distinction belongs to what Marist calls “Medicare for all that want it,” or what’s sometimes called a public option — something very similar to Joe Biden’s recently unveiled health care plan, which claims to give almost everyone “the choice to purchase a public health insurance option like Medicare.”

In the Marist poll, 90 percent of Democrats thought a plan that provided for a public option was a good idea, as compared to 64 percent who supported a Sanders-style Medicare for All plan that would replace private health insurance. The popularity of the public option also carries over to independent voters: 70 percent support it, as compared to 39 percent for Medicare for All."

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/medicare-for-all-isnt-that-popular-even-among-democrats/

It's exciting to see this level of support growing for a public health system, even with all the misinformation going around!! We've already got more than half of democrats onboard with M4A :tony::excited:

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HybridAT
2 hours ago, Sid said:

It's exciting to see this level of support growing for a public health system, even with all the misinformation going around!! We've already got more than half of democrats onboard with M4A :tony::excited:

Geez, y'all are hilariously delusional. There's a growing evidence that even lesser number of people are turning away from a M4A option, esp Iowa caucusgoers which is the home to the first primaries. It gets support as long as people are not made aware of the technicalities involved. Once they do, they support an opt-in system more than M4A. 

"A new Monmouth University poll shows a majority of likely Iowa Democratic “caucusgoers want a public option rather than a ‘Medicare for All’ type” of healthcare coverage that would eliminate private insurance.

“A majority (56%) of likely Iowa Democratic caucusgoers say they would prefer to allow people to opt into Medicare, while just 21% say they want a Medicare for All type of system with no private insurance,” the poll from the Monmouth University Polling Institute said."

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2019/08/10/in-iowa-single-payer-style-of-medicare-for-all-loses-ground/

If it doesn't happen in Iowa, it's not happening. As much as GGD's overwhelmingly large base would push for it to happen, GGD's base views ≠ country's views. Plain simple. 

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6 hours ago, HybridAT said:

Geez, y'all are hilariously delusional. There's a growing evidence that even lesser number of people are turning away from a M4A option, esp Iowa caucusgoers which is the home to the first primaries. It gets support as long as people are not made aware of the technicalities involved. Once they do, they support an opt-in system more than M4A. 

"A new Monmouth University poll shows a majority of likely Iowa Democratic “caucusgoers want a public option rather than a ‘Medicare for All’ type” of healthcare coverage that would eliminate private insurance.

“A majority (56%) of likely Iowa Democratic caucusgoers say they would prefer to allow people to opt into Medicare, while just 21% say they want a Medicare for All type of system with no private insurance,” the poll from the Monmouth University Polling Institute said."

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2019/08/10/in-iowa-single-payer-style-of-medicare-for-all-loses-ground/

If it doesn't happen in Iowa, it's not happening. As much as GGD's overwhelmingly large base would push for it to happen, GGD's base views ≠ country's views. Plain simple. 

I have no idea what 'GGD's base view' is, but I am excited to see such a large percentage in support of M4A, since I don't believe a public option would be as effective at removing the medical insurance industry from the US. Just a few years ago support was at virtually 0%.

You can call me delusional but I will never support any proposal that requires payment at the point of service in exchange for medical treatment :trollga: Not gonna change my mind

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gabeoz
19 hours ago, HybridAT said:

- Pell Grants should be expanded.

This. I was unable to attend my dream university this fall because I was denied for the pell grant and was ultimately unable to pay for it on my own without it.

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1 hour ago, gabeoz said:

This. I was unable to attend my dream university this fall because I was denied for the pell grant and was ultimately unable to pay for it on my own without it.

He does. He plans to dramatically expand them since he knows how critical they are for low income students.  I'll post his detailed policy proposal when he releases one. And I hope you can achieve all your wildest dreams and aspirations and more, regardless of where you are. Good luck!  :kiss:

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Whispering
4 hours ago, Sid said:

I have no idea what 'GGD's base view' is, but I am excited to see such a large percentage in support of M4A

It’s only 21 per cent. That’s not a large percentage...and not a majority.

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2 minutes ago, Whispering said:

It’s only 21 per cent. That’s not a large percentage...and not a majority.

If only reading comprehension and rationalism could come before detrimental fanaticism...

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Sid
9 hours ago, Whispering said:

It’s only 21 per cent. That’s not a large percentage...and not a majority.

It's nearly a quarter? That's a pretty great start to me, considering how many millions of dollars the healthcare industry pumps into propaganda.

9 hours ago, HybridAT said:

If only reading comprehension and rationalism could come before detrimental fanaticism...

As I said, I will never support a system that requires payment at the point of service in exchange for medical treatment. I do not have centrist views nor will I ever, sorry! I'm sorry it makes you uncomfortable :giggle:

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