Israel demolishes Palestinian homes in West Bank

[lego 44,165]

 

 

 

 

[PartySick 172,539]

9 hours ago, ARTPOP2 said:

@Melech any opinions about the actual topic ? I mean like I know Palestinian lives are worthless to a Zionist Queen like you, but would you like to comment on it? don't worry, there's no buzzword to describe hate against Palestinians that other users can call you with

Alright y'all, calm down

@Melech I would also like to know what you think about this since you're one of the few pro-Israel members here. Just out of curiosity

OT: Complicated histories or not, I don't see why these two nations can't just coexist and find some peaceful solution that doesn't involve uprooting citizens' lives or fire missiles back and forth.

[DitaDolla 11,006]

9 minutes ago, PartySick said:

  Complicated histories or not, I don't see why these two nations can't just coexist and find some peaceful solution that doesn't involve uprooting citizens' lives or fire missiles back and forth.

THIS

[derpmonster 22,412]

11 hours ago, Melech said:

It’s not only Republicans though. Look how palestinian refugees are treated in some countries (who are ironically pro-Palestine)

Zionism like other movement  has many different political ideologies within the movement 

His comment  was antisemitic though implying a Jewish country is controlling USA and is rich. Which is both wrong and not based on anything but antisemitic tropes. You can criticize Israel’s relationship with the USA without falling back into antisemitic conspiracy theories. 

I agree that it was a half assed trope based accusation. The only truth in the money thing is when political action groups lobby in the US. The truth is that money works a lot in politics and no of course it's not just Israel. Rather, it's domestic groups who likely have corporate interests there funding it and no it is NOT Jewish people necessary. I find those conspiracy theories awful and anti Semitic too. 

Re: zionism - yes but like I said, it's become much more. As far as it was about restoring land to native dwellers, it's okay but not if it's displacing and persecuting other groups who are innocent. 

[Melech 9,900]

8 hours ago, PartySick said:

Alright y'all, calm down

@Melech I would also like to know what you think about this since you're one of the few pro-Israel members here. Just out of curiousity

It’s obviously wrong and works against the two-state solution. 

[corvus albus 38,031]

8 hours ago, PartySick said:

OT: Complicated histories or not, I don't see why these two nations can't just coexist and find some peaceful solution that doesn't involve uprooting citizens' lives or fire missiles back and forth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

This is why. You can't only hold Israel accountable if they mostly just defend. This particular event was an act of aggression and should, therefore, be punished. Usually it's the opposite but then nobody cares again. The governemt of Israel has authoritarian traits but it's still more democratic than everything else around it.

I consider myself pro-Isael but I do criticize the country if they act aggressively without being able to justify it.

[Salome 685]

Proud to say I'm not pro Israel anymore. How can one even condone this?

 

 

[Didymus 34,380]

3 hours ago, corvus albus said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

This is why. 

Then let's also post this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_attacks_on_Palestine

Take a special look at the death counts, buddy.

[TEMPLE 1,358]

On 7/23/2019 at 2:23 AM, lego said:

Ethnic cleansing.

You're disgusting. 

[corvus albus 38,031]

14 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Then let's also post this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_attacks_on_Palestine

Take a special look at the death counts, buddy.

But pretty much all of these were answers to rocket attacks and the prior death of Israeli residents. Israel nearly never starts these attacks and when Israel retaliates because their citizens were killed everyone points at them and sends help to Palastine. 2002 alone were 47 suicide bombings and from 2010 onward there were always annual bombings of Israel from the Gaza strip. In the year 2012 alone there were 2,257 rockets and mortars fired and between 2014-2018 4,594 rocktes and mortars were fired as part of the Operation Protective Edge. Even in 2019 rockets were fired from the Gaza strip towards Tel Aviv and Mishmeret. Palastine is not innocent and they still are usually the aggressors. If you fault me for siding with Israel then I can't do much more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks

[lego 44,165]

35 minutes ago, THEORACLE64 said:

You're disgusting. 

 

When the truth hurts and crimes against humanity and lack of basic human rights bother you less than a stranger’s perfectly valid comment on a forum. I love your priorities. Thank you for contribution. 

 

maybe some people should learn how to clearly condemn this evil practice, all I see is very mild responses about 2 state and not calling this with real name, not being outraged,  because Palestinians were always seen less than human, so whatever it’s done to them, they deserved it. 

 

 

 

[lego 44,165]

1 minute ago, corvus albus said:

But pretty much all of these were answers to rocket attacks 

 

2 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

they still are usually the aggressors. If you fault me for siding with Israel then I can't do much more.

 

Yikes. Palestinians are under brutal military occupation for decades, only delusional person would call them “usually the aggressors”. They also have the right under international law to resist and defend themselves against occupation. When IOF is killing children and medics, unarmed protesters and then there’s a rocket from their side, you’ll say it all started from that rocket and Israel is just defending itself. This has happened so many times in the past, when Palestinians are harassed and dying- it’s “period of calm”, if there’s rockets - “look - they started it, we have to kill now thousands of civilians including 500 children, with most precise weapons in the world”. 

[corvus albus 38,031]

10 minutes ago, lego said:

 

 

Yikes. Palestinians are under brutal military occupation for decades, only delusional person would call them “usually the aggressors”. They also have the right under international law to resist and defend themselves against occupation. When IOF is killing children and medics, unarmed protesters and then there’s a rocket from their side, you’ll say it all started from that rocket and Israel is just defending itself. This has happened so many times in the past, when Palestinians are harassed and dying- it’s “period of calm”, if there’s rockets - “look - they started it, we have to kill now thousands of civilians including 500 children, with most precise weapons in the world”. 

Let's not forget the 3500 killed Israelis and the further 25000wounded by Palestinians. Nobody from the Israli side is running into cafes, bars, restaurants and busses just to mindlesly kill "the enemy".

[Regina George 59,387]

6 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

Let's not forget the 3500 killed Israelis and the further 25000wounded by Palestinians. Nobody from the Israli side is running into cafes, bars, restaurants and busses just to mindlesly kill "the enemy".

You need to stop honestly! Thousands of Palestinians were killed and tortured. They are not allowed to have a normal life and you are here sharing false information and claiming it to be a “fact”. Just leave this thread if you can’t show support for victims of this horrible crime. 

[corvus albus 38,031]

2 minutes ago, ReginaGeorge said:

You need to stop honestly! Thousands of Palestinians were killed and tortured. They are not allowed to have a normal life and you are here sharing false information and claiming it to be a “fact”. Just leave this thread if you can’t show support for victims of this horrible crime. 

4 hours ago, corvus albus said:

This particular event was an act of aggression and should, therefore, be punished.

Reading comprehension is very rare these days.

There also are sources for my "false information": https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/total-casualties-arab-israeli-conflict

I don't work with wrong numbers and I already said that this was a crime that should be punished. I still can, however, say I'm still pro-Israel because the minute these nation was formed it was under pressure by it's neighbours and Palestine was nearly always part of these operations. I empathize with every human killed in this scenario but claiming that Palestine is only a victim in this conflict just is grossly wrong.