Guest Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: You seemed to ask if private hospitals and private insurance are tied together. The answer: No. Private hospitals choose to accept different insurances, whether they be private or a government plan like Medicare or Medicaid. Ok thank you for explaining. What does public option or single payer mean? I tried searching but still could not understand. I see candidates say they support these instead of medicare for all and progressives get pissed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Can we also discuss the fact the healthcare system in the US has basically created the illusion you NEED a good private health insurance plan with the fact the cost of healthcare here is OUTRAGEOUS. So clearly nobody but the rich can pay for most of the services. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Ok thank you for explaining. What does public option or single payer mean? I tried searching but still could not understand. I see candidates say they support these instead of medicare for all and progressives get pissed. A single payers system is one where healthcare costs are covered through taxes (government run coverage). Medicare For All is a single payer program so I'm not sure what you mean. I don't think I've seen people discussing it that way. Or maybe they are discussing the label. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChromeAngel 3,230 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 What would the argument be for not having private insurance available? I don’t understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, ChromeAngel said: What would the argument be for not having private insurance available? I don’t understand That everyone would be under a government run single payer plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyBabe 22,836 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Private health insurance gives me a lot of unilateral power over my health. As someone with medical issues, I like to be able to be in as much control as possible. I am able to choose my doctors and specialists freely and see them in a timely manner. ⚯͛ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 78,959 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I honestly interpreted the question the same way she did, they themselves would give up their coverage. Unless they asked that separately, and this was a diff question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladylinners 485 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, neptugne said: I honestly interpreted the question the same way she did, they themselves would give up their coverage. Unless they asked that separately, and this was a diff question That's how I understood the question as well. Who of them would give up their own private insurance for universal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChromeAngel 3,230 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said: That everyone would be under a government run single payer plan. How is that an argument? Like what’s the reason we should be under one single government plan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, ChromeAngel said: How is that an argument? Like what’s the reason we should be under one single government plan? The argument is costs would go down and coverage would be available for everyone. And I guess you can argue about the greed of health insurance companies and how they basically rip people off. In many countries it’s a mix of government plans and private ones though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: What do you all think? Should private insurance be scrapped? As far as I know many countries with universal healthcare still have a private sector. My first instinct is to say no, as I would like to keep mine. There are millions of other people like me that are happy with their insurance from the private sector. At the same time, I’m all for insurance for everyone, so I want a way to cover those that currently don’t have insurance...for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I don't think it should be abolished. I want everyone to have coverage, but if I have the means for a good supplemental insurance plan why wouldn't I get one. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
socotra 3,357 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It was incredibly encouraging to see her finally take a stand on a controversial issue such as this, and actually made me consider possibly supporting her should Sanders or Warren sputter out. That's gone now. Harris proves herself, yet again and unfortunately, another corporate shill whose primary strength is her oratory and playing to identity politics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 hours ago, M Monstre said: I don't know how I entirely feel about the health care issue. I've never been into politics as much as I am right now, but even then I'm still very ignorant about a lot of things. So if someone could please explain to me how it goes, I'd appreciate it. As of right now, I think what makes the most sense is what Buttigieg said last night—I believe it was him, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Why can't there be a system where the government has a universal health care initiative, but also a private sector? If people are fine with their private insurance now, why force them to get on a government run program? That seems like a hassle. If people want to be apart of that "health care for all" system, they can totally do that and should be able to do that, but why not have the option of doing it? Again, not trying to start anything, just genuinely curious because honestly that plan makes the most sense to me. Because then all the old and sick will be on the government plan and the young and healthy will be on the private market, creating a situation where the government plan is most expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Born To Slay said: Because then all the old and sick will be on the government plan and the young and healthy will be on the private market, creating a situation where the government plan is most expensive. That's not really true. Most young people are trying to save money. I'd say people who are not retirement age but probably not in their 20 or 30 are the ones who would like their own private insurance. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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