Louvre 903 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Im making this thread bc Im genuinely so confused rn. So in a billboard article from last February that updated gaga's US sales, it said that bad romance sold 5.9 million copies, I thought that was strange considering the fact that we know bad romance has sold 10 million copies in the US so I was like hmm, the other 4.1 million units must come from streaming, right? The article said that Bad romance had 395 million streams in the US, but when those 395 million streams are converted into sales units (By dividing the streams by 150. every 150 streams for a song = 1 unit sold) it only equals 2,633,333 million copies sold, not the 4.1 million it needs to add up to 10 million sales. So im confused. Am I doing the calculations wrong or is something messed up with billboards numbers? Bad romance has been diamond since 2015 so I must be missing something. Anyone know whats going on? heres the article: https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8497475/lady-gaga-sales-streams-ariana-grande-ask-billboard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunir 7,510 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 You know I've thought about this too before but I can't really find an explanation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Louvre said: every 150 streams for a song = 1 unit sold i'm just mainly shook my this. this seems like an absurdly high number--who decides this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Life 118,907 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Those streaming numbers are "on-demand". They don't include YouTube. Billboard, however, are very inconsistent when it comes to separating on-demand streams and overall streams in their articles. You should also remember that Pandora for example counts for Billboard, and they get halved for charts, but not to RIAA certifications at all. It's all very confusing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Gg 12,985 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 The streams to sale conversion rate was different when it was first introduced. Gaga benefitted from that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboi12 2,125 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Riaa said bad romance is diamond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 58,909 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Stream conversions are grandfathered in, some of the streams are not in that figure, once you add up all the small things not listed its equivalent I can't be free if my hands are tied... 🧟♀️👰🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 9,891 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Multiple times they've changed how streams count, etc. It's "legit" but one has to keep in mind that they way they calculate sales with streams is fluctuating all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Society 3,584 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I kinda stopped caring about Billboard these days since streaming started. The positioning doesn't seem believable since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 46,964 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Bad Romance sold 12 Million WW I think it was No way it sold 10M in the US alone Her biggest selling single in US was Poker Face which a little over 6M Just Dance also crossed the 6M mark by a smaller amount than Poker Face Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 46,964 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Judas Society said: I kinda stopped caring about Billboard these days since streaming started. The positioning doesn't seem believable since then. Streams are more accurate for charts than sales tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 46,964 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, Boyboi12 said: Riaa said bad romance is diamond But that's globally I don't think it was for the US Im almost sure she only had 2 singles surpass the 6M mark in the US and it was Poker Face and Just Dance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 39,633 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Economy said: But that's globally I don't think it was for the US Im almost sure she only had 2 singles surpass the 6M mark in the US and it was Poker Face and Just Dance RIAA only keeps track of US units no? Am I reading your comment wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louvre 903 Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Economy said: But that's globally I don't think it was for the US RIAA is only for the US, so she has sold 10 million pure+units from streaming in the US, its a crazy number tbh edit: Someone above me sumitted the same thing before I did lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabeoz 7,915 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Economy said: But that's globally I don't think it was for the US Im almost sure she only had 2 singles surpass the 6M mark in the US and it was Poker Face and Just Dance Unless im wrong, RIAA does not do global certifications, they're only done in the US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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