Katy talks about TD’s success

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16 hours ago, FentyGa said:

I haven't watched it but if the title is indeed correct...
I love the girl, but she got SO conceited, big headed, and like...almost rude during the Teenage Dream era.
Just watch her interviews before and after TD.
I think during One Of The Boys it started getting to her, and then her biggest album rolled around and she just changed.
Witness's flop was absolutely a reality check for her, and I think she's much more fun and sweet now.

Same thing happened with gaga and ARTPOP, both needed that reality check.

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20 hours ago, Bonkers said:

Don't hate me because this is mean, but the reason I know Katy is over is because I don't care.   

With Madonna, for example, I'm still not over the reductive era so I do still watch everything she does and I  watch charts to take smug delight in the magnitude of the flop.  Which means that to me,  , Madonna is still not over because she's still relevant to me.  

Over is when people just don't really care one way or the other.

 

Wow... so you're hateful and you think you're the arbiter of when an artist is over lmao got it

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21 hours ago, DitaDolla said:

omg let's talk about how her attitude has COMPLETELY CHANGED this is so weirddd

like one day ur acting fun and quirky on tv and the other day u act like this.

I prefer the fun and cute Katy but I love her anyhow

What r u talkin about she is still fun and cute here. 

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20 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said:

It's interesting to hear artists's perception of their own success. I  wonder how it feels for Gaga. We all kinda guess but it's different when you hear it from her mouth.

She was asked that question during the 2010 today show performance. She said she still didnt feel that she is famous enough . fame hasnt got in he rhead and that she'll work harder.. Sth like that

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17 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I think she's saying this because she feels she should have acted more grateful for TD's success at the time because her career's at a very different place now. She maybe too her TD success for granted and that extended onto Prism. Little did she know that after Dark Horse, she'd only have one top ten single in the US for the next 5 years. Seriously, Chained To The Rhythm is the only top 10 she's had in the US since Dark Horse. Never Really Over could well change that but let's not pretend that she probably thought her career would be in a very different place right now after the success of TD. When Prism took off initially, she likely thought it was official - she was going to have huge hits with every album, sell millions of copies of every album, have tours grossing hundreds of millions. To have it all slowly come crashing down till we got to the point where she is now, she's likely thinking: "Wow, I should have enjoyed my heyday so much more at the time." I don't buy it that she didn't take in her success in the moment. She was in her documentary being sad that ET wasn't taking off in the UK even though the song had just been released, the video hadn't even been shot and Kanye wasn't even a part of the song (it eventually peaked at #3 so she had nothing to worry about). I think it's a case of she was just too cocky at the time and now, looking back on it, now she's been humbled by her recent flops, she feels like she should have been more grateful. She's just dressing it up with stuff about her spirit and soul but she's really not saying anything of substance.

Wait what was the order of the Prism singles? Didn’t Birthday and TIHWD come after Dark Horse and didn’t they do well?

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Just now, VenusBitch said:

Wait what was the order of the Prism singles? Didn’t Birthday and TIHWD come after Dark Horse and didn’t they do well?

Roar, Unconditionally, Dark Horse, Birthday, This Is How We Do.

Roar was a huge success, Unconditionally was a minor blip, only peaking at #14 but she picked right up again with DH. But then it all fell apart. Birthday only peaked at #17 despite radios being sent birthday cakes and the video flopped (it was released at the same time as GUY yet it has less views and likes to this day) and then TIHWD only peaked at #24 despite a last-minute rent-a-rapper situation. Only her fans know or care about those songs. Then she tried to have a standalone hit with Rise, but it just missed out at #11. Then Witness only produced the #4 song, Chained To The Rhythm, with the remaining singles failing to hit so much as top 40. Her Cozy Little Christmas song was only #53. 365 was a very disappointing #86 and the original Con Calma isn't taking off in America and the remix therefore isn't either, only at #27 so far. I know it's hard to believe but its been 5 years since DH, so yeah, only one top ten hit in 5 years,

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1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Roar, Unconditionally, Dark Horse, Birthday, This Is How We Do.

Roar was a huge success, Unconditionally was a minor blip, only peaking at #14 but she picked right up again with DH. But then it all fell apart. Birthday only peaked at #17 despite radios being sent birthday cakes and the video flopped (it was released at the same time as GUY yet it has less views and likes to this day) and then TIHWD only peaked at #24 despite a last-minute rent-a-rapper situation. Only her fans know or care about those songs. Then she tried to have a standalone hit with Rise, but it just missed out at #11. Then Witness only produced the #4 song, Chained To The Rhythm, with the remaining singles failing to hit so much as top 40. Her Cozy Little Christmas song was only #53. 365 was a very disappointing #86 and the original Con Calma isn't taking off in America and the remix therefore isn't either, only at #27 so far. I know it's hard to believe but its been 5 years since DH, so yeah, only one top ten hit in 5 years,

Oh. My. God. I thought her “flop” wasn’t that bad  Jesus, imagine how she felt after being on top for so long, at least gaga expected it  

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1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Roar, Unconditionally, Dark Horse, Birthday, This Is How We Do.

Roar was a huge success, Unconditionally was a minor blip, only peaking at #14 but she picked right up again with DH. But then it all fell apart. Birthday only peaked at #17 despite radios being sent birthday cakes and the video flopped (it was released at the same time as GUY yet it has less views and likes to this day) and then TIHWD only peaked at #24 despite a last-minute rent-a-rapper situation. Only her fans know or care about those songs. Then she tried to have a standalone hit with Rise, but it just missed out at #11. Then Witness only produced the #4 song, Chained To The Rhythm, with the remaining singles failing to hit so much as top 40. Her Cozy Little Christmas song was only #53. 365 was a very disappointing #86 and the original Con Calma isn't taking off in America and the remix therefore isn't either, only at #27 so far. I know it's hard to believe but its been 5 years since DH, so yeah, only one top ten hit in 5 years,

And they said ARTPOP was a flop 

Joking aside, I don't really see her as "flopping" because even if she hasn't achieved huge hits like in the past recently, she's been around consistently and been getting pretty good views on YouTube. She's not getting the chart positions but people are still very much aware of her.

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22 minutes ago, VenusBitch said:

Oh. My. God. I thought her “flop” wasn’t that bad  Jesus, imagine how she felt after being on top for so long, at least gaga expected it  

Witness didn't even sell 1 million worldwide, yet some people have the audacity to say that AP's 2.5 million world sales were a flop. Gaga actually sold out shows at that tour, Katy couldn't sell out one. There's a reason there's barely any box office data for it, it was too embarrassing. But yeah, even Prism had its flop moments as well, with only 2/5 singles being hits but the public still seem to consider that a hit album. Thing is, I predicted this after TD. I thought Prism would maybe produce 2 #1's, maybe a top 10 and 2 top 20's because there would be a natural regression after that mega success, so by the law of averages, that's what I came up with and I was almost right. Then with Witness, I predicted just one top 10 lead single, one top 20 and a couple of top 40's and I really overestimated even that. So many people still think Katy's got it in her to come back hugely and I don't think she can. Her downfall has been steadily increasing over the years and it all points to her young fanbase growing up and having no place for her overly young pop sound now, they want something edgier that she can't provide and older people definitely aren't interested in becoming her fans because they view her as a kids artist.

4 minutes ago, Curunir said:

And they said ARTPOP was a flop 

Joking aside, I don't really see her as "flopping" because even if she hasn't achieved huge hits like in the past recently, she's been around consistently and been getting pretty good views on YouTube. She's not getting the chart positions but people are still very much aware of her.

Yeah, people are still aware of her but more of a mocking way because they don't view her as a threat now. It's more of an infamy she's had ever since Witness, even she touched on that with the joke in her Swish Swish video: "And last but not least, we have Kobi Perry, who despite her best efforts, keeps on falling flat on her face." I think she's more than aware of how her image has changed in the minds of many and is trying to navigate how to get back to success with a newer, more mature look and sound. But the question is, do the public and her fans want that? As for her video views - they've long been considered to be faked, especially when Bon Appetit's views and likes increased massively for no reason recently and weren't amended. I think it's maybe done on her biggest hits to keep them relevant and maybe her subscriber counts are inflated too. She was gaining well over 100k subscribers a week during Witness despite her album flopping harder by the day. If that many people like her that much, why weren't they buying any of her music? She's still been gaining despite being in limbo right until this week, which would really point towards faked subscribers. Sad, because in situations like this, I don't even think it's the artist's choice, it's their label pushing them to be seen as more successful in the hope that the sight of success, even if it's all an illusion, makes more people want to join the crowd.

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20 hours ago, FameHookah said:

Same thing happened with gaga and ARTPOP, both needed that reality check.

yes, but gaga was never mean or conceited

i think she put a bit too much weight on charts and sales before ARTPOP so it kind of recalibrated her priorities

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Gaga can have her own TD if she wants 

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I mean have we questioned how much a Legendary era could charge you even long after it’s gone. I mean because of that Katy divorced, Gaga got Fibromyalgia and that’s really sad cause the damage is irreversible but the era was so huge that it needed a bigger than life effort to keep up to the success 

 

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Anyone else think she’s trying to talk like Gaga??

Her articulation, inflections, vocabulary... reminds me of Gaga so much. Not how Katy used to talk. See “is math related to science?”

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19 hours ago, FentyGa said:

yes, but gaga was never mean or conceited

i think she put a bit too much weight on charts and sales before ARTPOP so it kind of recalibrated her priorities

Yep

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On 6/2/2019 at 10:07 AM, FameHookah said:

Same thing happened with gaga and ARTPOP, both needed that reality check.

Gaga never became arrogant or self-righteous though. She always remained humble, kind-hearted, gracious, generous, and down-to-earth. So no, Gaga did not need a “reality check” with ARTPOP. And an album that went number one, sold 2.5 million copies worldwide, had 4 Top 40 songs, two super popular music videos, and hosted a sold-out world tour in it’s name is not a flop.