monster4life231 4,304 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Flopplause said: I though her perseverance was very commendable, eventho I don't support Brexit, she was very adament to work together with all parties to get a deal everyone would support. Too bad she can't finish the job. I think that she lift it too late to seek cross-party talks. She has been working on Brexit since 2016, but only began cross-party talks this year. spread peace - #MJInnocent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,738 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, monster4life231 said: Her key deal on Brexit has been rejected three times by Parliament, one of which is the largest Parliamentary defeats in history. Following this, the Conservative party began to collapse and they lost over 1000 seats in local councils and are expected to be in 3rd/4th place in the European Parliament elections. A lot of the party has asked her to resign in order for a new leader to deliver Brexit. 5 minutes ago, BenG said: She couldn't command a majority for her deal after 3 attempts. When she reached out to the opposition for a compromise, it was rejected by the opposition and she also angered her own party thanks guys! so basically because brexit could not pass (and failed miserably) her party is sort of collapsing and becoming more and more weak so her party pressured her to resign so they can replace her with someone else that they think could fix their party's image a bit more and maybe pass Brexit? Also when was her term supposed to end? Will this replacement only last for as long as the remainder of her term could allow or what? sorry for the questions I'm just curious and would like to understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG 19,908 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, dit said: thanks guys! so basically because brexit could not pass (and failed miserably) her party is sort of collapsing and becoming more and more weak so her party pressured her to resign so they can replace her with someone else that they think could fix their party's image a bit more and maybe pass Brexit? Also when was her term supposed to end? Will this replacement only last for as long as the remainder of her term could allow or what? sorry for the questions I'm just curious and would like to understand. Under the Westminster system, the prime minister has no term. It's how long the leader of the biggest party can command a confidence among its members. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster4life231 4,304 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Just now, dit said: thanks guys! so basically because brexit could not pass (and failed miserably) her party is sort of collapsing and becoming more and more weak so her party pressured her to resign so they can replace her with someone else that they think could fix their party's image a bit more and maybe pass Brexit? Also when was her term supposed to end? Will this replacement only last for as long as the remainder of her term could allow or what? sorry for the questions I'm just curious and would like to understand. Yes, the party wants to replace her in order to restore the Conservative parties image and to stop members turning to other parties such as the Brexit Party. Her term is supposed to end in 2022. The new leader will be the Prime Minister until 2022 unless they decided to try and trigger an early general election. However, I doubt that an early general election will be called because May triggered an early general election that resulted in the Conservatives losing their majority, which has contributed to the Brexit problem. It's ok to ask questions, it's good to see people being interested in politics. Ask anything you like and I will try to give you an answer. spread peace - #MJInnocent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,738 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, BenG said: Under the Westminster system, the prime minister has no term. It's how long the leader of the biggest party can command a confidence among its members. do they hold the confidence vote on a yearly basis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG 19,908 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Just now, monster4life231 said: Yes, the party wants to replace her in order to restore the Conservative parties image and to stop members turning to other parties such as the Brexit Party. Her term is supposed to end in 2022. The new leader will be the Prime Minister until 2022 unless they decided to try and trigger an early general election. However, I doubt that an early general election will be called because May triggered an early general election that resulted in the Conservatives losing their majority, which has contributed to the Brexit problem. It's ok to ask questions, it's good to see people being interested in politics. Ask anything you like and I will try to give you an answer. There won't be a GE anytime soon, I believe. Both Tories and Labour are doing trash numbers in the polls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG 19,908 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, dit said: do they hold the confidence vote on a yearly basis? Nope. It's actually dependent on how the ruling party elects its leader. For the current Conservative Party, a vote of no-confidence is triggered when 15% of the party's members of parliament submit a letter of no-confidence in the leader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,738 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, monster4life231 said: Yes, the party wants to replace her in order to restore the Conservative parties image and to stop members turning to other parties such as the Brexit Party. Her term is supposed to end in 2022. The new leader will be the Prime Minister until 2022 unless they decided to try and trigger an early general election. However, I doubt that an early general election will be called because May triggered an early general election that resulted in the Conservatives losing their majority, which has contributed to the Brexit problem. It's ok to ask questions, it's good to see people being interested in politics. Ask anything you like and I will try to give you an answer. 3 minutes ago, BenG said: Nope. It's actually dependent on how the ruling party elects its leader. For the current Conservative Party, a vote of no-confidence is triggered when 15% of the party's members of parliament submit a letter of no-confidence in the leader. thank you so much guys! This makes a lot of sense. I was wondering...why did May even try to do an early general election? Like wasn't she already locked to remain the Prime Minister? Also didn't she know her party have been struggling and that doing a GE would mean losing majority? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG 19,908 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Just now, dit said: thank you so much guys! This makes a lot of sense. I was wondering...why did May even try to do an early general election? Like wasn't she already locked to remain the Prime Minister? Also didn't she know her party have been struggling and that doing a GE would mean losing majority? She actually had a pretty high favourability rating until just before the GE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theahsfan 13,838 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I didn't support her views but I liked her as a person and feel sorry for her tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imnotyourbabe10 6,120 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Now if only we could get this to happen on the other side of the pond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster4life231 4,304 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, BenG said: There won't be a GE anytime soon, I believe. Both Tories and Labour are doing trash numbers in the polls. I agree. 16 minutes ago, dit said: thank you so much guys! This makes a lot of sense. I was wondering...why did May even try to do an early general election? Like wasn't she already locked to remain the Prime Minister? Also didn't she know her party have been struggling and that doing a GE would mean losing majority? She was polling around 10% ahead of Labour and was expected to win a large majority. The Conservative campaign was generally weak and Labour's online presence was really successful. The Conservative manifesto was not as strong as Labour's. Labour managed to attract a lot of younger voters which helped them. In the end, both parties had an increase in the number of votes, but neither secured a majority. Although the Conservative vote increased, they lost seats and entered a confidence and supply deal with the DUP. Labour vote also increased and they gained more seats. The 2017 election had very unexpected outcomes. May joked about this in the first Prime Minister's Questions after the election when speaking to the speaker saying "at least somebody got a landslide". The outcome was a surprise in my opinion. I'm a supporter of Jeremy Corbyn and I didn't expect Labour to win. I thought the Conservatives would manage to either maintain or increase their majority. spread peace - #MJInnocent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverLoader 1,254 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, monster4life231 said: I think that she lift it too late to seek cross-party talks. She has been working on Brexit since 2016, but only began cross-party talks this year. Well, it doesn't help that Jeremy Corbyn is the most useless opposition leader ever. He has been a staunch leaver all his life yet no one knew what the official policy of the Labour party was or even is now? LOL. As bad as May was, I thank every single God under the sun that Jeremy COrbyn is not the Prime Minister. Having said that, the Brits are sheep like enough to vote him in after. Don't worry it will take one big dirty recession the likes millennials have never seen before for them to realise that he isn't their saviour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster4life231 4,304 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 39 minutes ago, RoverLoader said: Well, it doesn't help that Jeremy Corbyn is the most useless opposition leader ever. He has been a staunch leaver all his life yet no one knew what the official policy of the Labour party was or even is now? LOL. As bad as May was, I thank every single God under the sun that Jeremy COrbyn is not the Prime Minister. Having said that, the Brits are sheep like enough to vote him in after. Don't worry it will take one big dirty recession the likes millennials have never seen before for them to realise that he isn't their saviour. You're entitled to your opinion. I believe that Jeremy Corbyn would be an amazing Prime Minister. spread peace - #MJInnocent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverLoader 1,254 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, monster4life231 said: You're entitled to your opinion. I believe that Jeremy Corbyn would be an amazing Prime Minister. He's been a terrible MP and opposition leader. I'm not sure how that translates to being an amazing Prime Minister. Hopefully he never ever get's to try it out. You should perhaps research him more than "oh Jeremy Corbyn". He's not a good person. At all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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