Ayaytola predicts demise of USA and Israel

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America wants a war with Iran, why is anyone surprised? 

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1 hour ago, River said:

The problem is that radicalism became the normal.. it’s above religion, it’s more about power, Trump  and Netanyahu would give the same answer more or less for example..

American foreign policy crimes and wars have also became normalized even when proven to be criminal on purpose. Its the exact same thing as Iran, but Iran are more honest about it.

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3 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said:

American foreign policy crimes and wars have also became normalized even when proven to be criminal on purpose. Its the exact same thing as Iran, but Iran are more honest about it.

Yeah I see it as part of the radicalism that poisons the world, we could all just live our lives without problems but those sick politicians wants only war.

there’s no single reason to start a war now, it’s like we are held hostages by radicals.. 

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38 minutes ago, River said:

Yeah I see it as part of the radicalism that poisons the world, we could all just live our lives without problems but those sick politicians wants only war.

there’s no single reason to start a war now, it’s like we are held hostages by radicals.. 

US, Israel and their sponsored allies do what they have been doing for a long time the formula repeats itself.like for example the current extermination of Yemenis that is not talked about almost at all and the threats to Iran.

It’s all the greed and lack of morals of politicians I agree. But also US citizens enjoying life without a war and high living standards should demand the World to hear the truth - its an moral obligation in my opinion. 

And while so much death and terror is being spread people watch nonsense like drama between James Charles and Tati. It’s just unbelievable how people can be so ignorant, I believe there are of course aware and moral Americans who stand up against this whole masacre, but overall their voice seems not big enough.

so yes one can say America as a whole lacks morals.

 

Sorry my response is not directly to you entirely it’s just regarding the whole topic 

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2 hours ago, DitaDolla said:

What's demise?

undoing/umbecoming

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1 hour ago, River said:

Yeah I see it as part of the radicalism that poisons the world, we could all just live our lives without problems but those sick politicians wants only war.

there’s no single reason to start a war now, it’s like we are held hostages by radicals.. 

I hate blaming politicians because the truth is we all want war if it benefits us politically. Americans live in a democracy and they vote for these wars so the American public are the politicians. Politicians openly say we will create more wars that have been proven illegal and criminal and people still find a way and excuse to vote for it. Americans were only anti war when Bush was a president, today there is no anti war movements.

Im only using America as an example because its something we both can understand, but this applies to everyone around the world.

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38 minutes ago, mic said:

so yes one can say America as a whole lacks morals.

 

 

Yikes.

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Can't wait to see two of the most harming countries in the world fall.

 

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27 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said:

I hate blaming politicians because the truth is we all want war if it benefits us politically. Americans live in a democracy and they vote for these wars so the American public are the politicians. Politicians openly say we will create more wars that have been proven illegal and criminal and people still find a way and excuse to vote for it. Americans were only anti war when Bush was a president, today there is no anti war movements.

Im only using America as an example because its something we both can understand, but this applies to everyone around the world.

I’m offended that you’re speaking in broad terms. Not that I voted for Trump (I wrote in Bernie), but Trump campaigned on a very anti-war message. However (comma) his administration included people like Boulton who helped orchestrate the previous war in Iraq. So, many Americans (regardless of their other political views) voted for one thing and received another because they were lied to. So, I would say it’s safe to say that it has less to do with what Americans voted for and the fact that America is no longer a Democracy. Rather, it is an Oligarchy that has monied interests that have taken control of news outlets that now serve as packaged warmongering propaganda served with a side of religious bigotry or socially progressive commentary sprinkled in the mix. The fact that this was done many years ago so seamlessly has many Americans believing that we are the good guys when the reality is that the media, huge corporations & corrupt government officials are willing to lie to the American people in the name of “National Security.”

 

Case in point: the fact that the OCPW did a supposed independent study concerning the chemical attack in Douma and decided to not include in their findings the analysis provided by engineers that stated they could not confirm that the bombs were dropped by aircraft. They did say however that the more likely probability is that they were manually placed. The corporate media isn’t talking about this at all. And neither are places like “The View,” where the resident republican McCain likes to say terrorists don’t deserve any rights and continues to rant about how Assad would attack his own people. 

 

I would argue that Americans don’t want war. Americans are too busy working 2 or more jobs to pay bills, be able to afford a mortgage payment, have enough money to pay medical bills and go see the occasional Avengers movie to really analyze and find out the reality of our Democracy.

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Disgusting man. It’s a shame what religion can do to a country like Iran which was once a somewhat liberal and modernized society. 

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52 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

I’m offended that you’re speaking in broad terms. Not that I voted for Trump (I wrote in Bernie), but Trump campaigned on a very anti-war message. However (comma) his administration included people like Boulton who helped orchestrate the previous war in Iraq. So, many Americans (regardless of their other political views) voted for one thing and received another because they were lied to. So, I would say it’s safe to say that it has less to do with what Americans voted for and the fact that America is no longer a Democracy. Rather, it is an Oligarchy that has monied interests that have taken control of news outlets that now serve as packaged warmongering propaganda served with a side of religious bigotry or socially progressive commentary sprinkled in the mix. The fact that this was done many years ago so seamlessly has many Americans believing that we are the good guys when the reality is that the media, huge corporations & corrupt government officials are willing to lie to the American people in the name of “National Security.”

 

Case in point: the fact that the OCPW did a supposed independent study concerning the chemical attack in Douma and decided to not include in their findings the analysis provided by engineers that stated they could not confirm that the bombs were dropped by aircraft. They did say however that the more likely probability is that they were manually placed. The corporate media isn’t talking about this at all. And neither are places like “The View,” where the resident republican McCain likes to say terrorists don’t deserve any rights and continues to rant about how Assad would attack his own people. 

 

I would argue that Americans don’t want war. Americans are too busy working 2 or more jobs to pay bills, be able to afford a mortgage payment, have enough money to pay medical bills and go see the occasional Avengers movie to really analyze and find out the reality of our Democracy.

Im speaking in broad terms on how human beings all over the world are, not just America. I do believe people dont really care but like to act like they do if it benefits them.

I know Americans dont want war but they dont oppose it unless it benefits them to oppose it. Hilary created wars, funded terrorism, forced regime changes, responsible for slavery in Libya and many more yet these people voted for her. And they have the nerve to call Trump and his supporters an islamophobe anti muslim! When Obama was president for 8 years, nobody criticized his wars yet the same people were screaming about Bush wars! the same anti war hippies in the 60's are today the corporate democrats that believe the media.

Anti war voices like chelsea manning and julian assange are stripped from their human rights and punished yet people are not defending them! Chelsea is a trans woman who suffered from suicide from being in solitary confinement and she was just sent there agains for no reason and people still attack her. Even Bernie Sanders did not defend them!

Yeah I was just now watching Jimmy Dore and he talked about the Douma chemical attack!!

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[I say this because, as Americans, we can do better and are dropping the ball with 45 et al.].

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1 hour ago, Faysalaaa said:

Im speaking in broad terms on how human beings all over the world are, not just America. I do believe people dont really care but like to act like they do if it benefits them.

I know Americans dont want war but they dont oppose it unless it benefits them to oppose it. Hilary created wars, funded terrorism, forced regime changes, responsible for slavery in Libya and many more yet these people voted for her. And they have the nerve to call Trump and his supporters an islamophobe anti muslim! When Obama was president for 8 years, nobody criticized his wars yet the same people were screaming about Bush wars! the same anti war hippies in the 60's are today the corporate democrats that believe the media.

Anti war voices like chelsea manning and julian assange are stripped from their human rights and punished yet people are not defending them! Chelsea is a trans woman who suffered from suicide from being in solitary confinement and she was just sent there agains for no reason and people still attack her. Even Bernie Sanders did not defend them!

Yeah I was just now watching Jimmy Dore and he talked about the Douma chemical attack!!

Co-sign & agree with all you said (sorry for taking offense).  I know Bernie never addressed it & am disappointed by it. I know it’s a calculated political move because he has enough hit pieces in the media right now (its ridiculous). But I can’t give him a pass even though I want to because it would be hypocritical considering how spiteful I am towards HRC. 

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He can say anything, doesn't mean it's right. Probably just out of bitterness anyway.

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6 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

Co-sign & agree with all you said (sorry for taking offense).  I know Bernie never addressed it & am disappointed by it. I know it’s a calculated political move because he has enough hit pieces in the media right now (its ridiculous). But I can’t give him a pass even though I want to because it would be hypocritical considering how spiteful I am towards HRC. 

No problem   and yes I understand why people support Bernie and why they are willing to give him a pass which is not a bad thing. But for me, I am personally effected by it so I cant tolerate that.