What cost Gaga and Bradley their Oscars?

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1 hour ago, shane_c said:

ASIB is the kind of movie that would have swept 10 or 15 years ago, but today everything is about social justice, etc.... So what won is an actor playing a rock superstar that was gay, an actress in a movie about women in power, and a movie about racism. ASIB had no political issue it was pushing. It was actually kind of old fashioned in that it was a love story and about a young woman being discovered and made a star by a man. I think that may have been why.

Yeah but it highlights issues of mental health and substance abuse a lot throughout the movie 

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1 hour ago, shane_c said:

ASIB is the kind of movie that would have swept 10 or 15 years ago, but today everything is about social justice, etc.... So what won is an actor playing a rock superstar that was gay, an actress in a movie about women in power, and a movie about racism. ASIB had no political issue it was pushing. It was actually kind of old fashioned in that it was a love story and about a young woman being discovered and made a star by a man. I think that may have been why.

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as simple as it is: others were even better

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10 hours ago, mauvais said:

It had nothing to do with their performances in the end because it never does. The Academy imagines itself as kingmaker. This is why all Oscar winning movies come out the month before the ceremony and the Academy favors a clique of auteurs. Award season is  pointless if audiences like a film before award season. Also, Bradley Cooper is not a likeable person and acted like a total c*nt in his only high profile solo interview but that's another issue. (eta: I sound super defensive but I just want to say I didn't care if they won anything besides BOS, and Cooper is a bad director)

"Which leads to what may be the biggest and most unavoidable obstacle between A Star Is Born and the Oscars: Hollywood is a cutthroat town that subsists on schadenfreude as much as Botox, and it's hard to root for awards for people who already seem to have everything."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/oscars-can-a-star-is-born-still-pull-a-best-picture-win-1185329

Cackling, but it's true. I remember thinking since he appeared to have so many friends in the industry and had weak competition, Best Actor would be a cakewalk for him. I feel like his moody control freak side really should have been kept under wraps. 

Anyway to answer OP, it was always going to be an uphill battle since, with a few exceptions, the Oscars have never been into romance. When buzz was building early on pre-Venice, a critic said he'd heard the movie was "really well done Nicholas Sparks." I feel like that tells us everything we need to know about the movies perception, and why it didn't win a ton of awards.

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I think it would have been because it would have been seen as predictable, Gaga was amazing in the film and the same for Bradley. I think they wanted to go with unexpected choices, in some ways I'm glad Gaga didn't win because of the hate she would have gotten for getting the Oscar over Glenn Close. Not sure about Bradley, i thought his acting was good, he sung live ! I'm sure they'll both win one day.

[Fresco 1,688]

Sometimes I think the oscar goes to movies that haven't had as much commercial success. This is really a PR event for the industry. Industry people might want to try to get the public to spread their money around a little more. But I'm not an insider and wouldn't really know.