Beyhives are just jealous cause Taylor's critical acclaim COMES WITH hits

[DC 25,164]

7 minutes ago, PinkPop said:

The praise comes from just Beyoncé being Beyoncé.

Have you ever seen one of her performances? It's so meticulously put together. Take a cake for example - let's say you judge the cake on how spongy it is, how decadent it is and how flavoursome it is. It's hard to bake something that has all three perfectly done. I know it's a weird example but take that as Bey. She hits 10/10 for every single box. She sings like a true vocalist, dances like a professional dancer (most artists get shadowed by their backing dancers) and her attitude and quality of her performance is just so groundbreaking.

 

My argument was on her hits, you’re making this a performance thing, but I don’t argue with that cause she’s obviously a queen at choreography 

But still, don’t change the subject 

[ElectricKing 9,405]

6 minutes ago, PinkPop said:

but everyone keeps praising something that I just can’t see 

@ProjectJoanne but you said this so I gave you a little summary of what we see

[DC 25,164]

2 minutes ago, PinkPop said:

@ProjectJoanne but you said this so I gave you a little summary of what we see

I wasn’t talking about that, I was talking about her writing skills she clearly doesn’t have  

Let me rephrase, hasn’t shown in recent years 

[ElectricKing 9,405]

1 minute ago, ProjectJoanne said:

I wasn’t talking about that, I was talking about her writing skills she clearly doesn’t have  

Let me rephrase, hasn’t shown in recent years 

Her lyrics or her writing skills?

[DC 25,164]

Just now, PinkPop said:

Her lyrics or her writing skills?

Depends, which one has all the awful lyrics? 

[ElectricKing 9,405]

9 minutes ago, ProjectJoanne said:

Depends, which one has all the awful lyrics? 

I like this last bit from 'Sorry' off 'Lemonade' co written by Bey and two other writers.

'Looking at my watch, he shoulda been home
Today I regret the night I put that ring on
He always got them ****ing excuses
I pray to the Lord you reveal what his truth is
I left a note in the hallway
By the time you read it, I'll be far away
I'm far away
But I ain't ****ing with nobody
Let's have a toast to the good life
Suicide before you see this tear fall down my eyes
Me and my baby, we gon' be alright
We gon' live a good life
Big homie better grow up
Me and my whoadies 'bout to stroll up
I see them boppers in the corner
They sneaking out the back door
He only want me when I'm not there
He better call Becky with the good hair' - became a big talking point in the media

 

The lyrics just flow really well, it has a slight angry edge to it which goes with the intention of the song and is full of attitude and self-empowerment 'me and my baby, we gon' be alright'. Some of the lines when singing feel so dramatic 'Suicide before you see this tear fall down my eyes' - but it really does feel like that when you're going through a breakup.

I think it requires a need to look deeper as I said before - it's that feeling it gives you, makes you think of every ex you've had that did you wrong or even a relationship you might be in that could be hella poisonous. Now compare this to 'We are never ever ever getting back together' - this is why Taylor does sell so many records, because that lyric is so easy and catchy, it requires absolute no brain power or deep thinking, anyone can understand it and like it which obviously works. 

It's like Gaga's lyrics, we understand it but some people don't get 'Marry the Night' - but for us, it means everything and has changed people's lives and outlook on life. Gaga's lyrics have such depth and subliminal meaning to it, when you really understand her lyrics you realise how good of a songwriter she is. Plus she writes 90 percent of her co written songs.

[Versace 7,979]

57 minutes ago, PinkPop said:

I agree we shouldn't pit anyone against each other, I'm not involved in fan wars. Everyone has their own lane and anyone who is as successful as these two women has undeniably contributed to the music industry.

But in relation to your point about facts, I couldn't give a ****. Because at the end of the day you stan for someone who dances like this:

And my girl dances like this:

Remember that point of feeling? You can give me your whole list of Taylor's 700 trillion record sales, it won't make a difference to me because I am in it for the music and the way an artist makes me feel. Statistics are shallow, yes they are lovely to say 'she's sold 1.5M units in a week' but as Gaga says 'the best part is in the work'.

I'm not bashing Taylor, she's a great songwriter and has had and still has an amazing career - but Bey is an absolute world-class entertainer and musician.

For someone who doesn't give a ****, you sure go out of your way to prove a point. 

You keep pushing the narrative the way you like. I'm not gonna argue about whether one person's opinion holds any merit. 

[pedrohemg 7,802]

3 hours ago, Vegas said:

Beyoncé is definitely a worldwide star, every single person on this planet knows who she is. She has a 20+ years long career with multiple iconic hits.

 Taylor on the other hand... nice gowns, beautiful gowns. 

You guys are so delusional regarding Beyoncé. "Every single person on this planet knows who she is" - What? She isn't Michael. If you say something like this you're literally saying she's as popular as MJ. My daddy doesn't know Beyoncé.  "Multiple iconic hits" - In 20 years she has only 2 BB #1 and no diamond.

[ElectricKing 9,405]

15 minutes ago, Versace said:

For someone who doesn't give a ****, you sure go out of your way to prove a point. 

You keep pushing the narrative the way you like. I'm not gonna argue about whether one person's opinion holds any merit. 

I give a **** about the right things. Like the actual voice. I don't give a **** about the superficial things like how many children decided to purchase Taylor Swift's new album.

[Versace 7,979]

9 minutes ago, PinkPop said:

I give a **** about the right things. Like the actual voice. I don't give a **** about the superficial things like how many children decided to purchase Taylor Swift's new album.

Oh and who made you the decider of "right things" 

 

 

[jaXXXon 1,538]

1 hour ago, Widows Kiss said:

She debuted as an solo artist in 2003 and her last solo #1 was 2008, 5 years into her solo career. Ever since she's been clinging to more relevant artists trying desperately to get a hit (Telephone, Drunk in Love, Mi Gente, Perfect and many more which weren't hits). Beyonce's last solo effort stayed one week at #10 and then tumbled down the charts. Taylor's last  #1 was 11 years into her career and she's been outselling Beyonce in every single metric you can think of this decade and she will continue to do so.

Beyoncé's last top 10 single managed to debut at #10 without being on YouTube or on any streaming platforms. It was almost entirely pure sales. You should do some research. It fell down the charts because it didn't have a video on YouTube and the song wasn't on Spotify or Apple Music. What is it you don't get? 

Taylor would NOT have gone top 10 with that little support. And I have to cackle at you implying Jay Z was more relevant than Beyoncé during Drunk In Love  Beyoncé outsells her husband in every field, the only reason he's still a thing is because he's married to her. 

Taylor has ZERO impact. Zero. She's doing commercial pop made for radio while Beyoncé is taking risks and getting the recognition for it. If Beyoncé had released Formation properly she would've gone #1 as well. That's not even debatable, the proof is in the numbers.

[ElectricKing 9,405]

12 minutes ago, Versace said:

Oh and who made you the decider of "right things" 

 

 

Oh sorry, I didn't mean for it to come across that way, I forgot to add 'in my humble opinion'

I'll rephrase it here - 'I give a s*it about what I think are the right things in my humble opinion, like the whole reason I listen to music, the quality of the music, not the amount it sold'.

[jaXXXon 1,538]

34 minutes ago, pedrohemg said:

You guys are so delusional regarding Beyoncé. "Every single person on this planet knows who she is" - What? She isn't Michael. If you say something like this you're literally saying she's as popular as MJ. My daddy doesn't know Beyoncé.  "Multiple iconic hits" - In 20 years she has only 2 BB #1 and no diamond.

Beyoncé has SIX #1 singles on BB. This is just you spewing without having done research.

Most people know who she is. More people know who Beyoncé is than who Taylor is, especially WW. Of course there are some culturally uneducated people who don't even know who the president of the United States is but we're not counting them. My dad knows who she is. 

[Versace 7,979]

1 minute ago, jaXXXon said:

Beyoncé's last top 10 single managed to debut at #10 without being on YouTube or on any streaming platforms. It was almost entirely pure sales. You should do some research. It fell down the charts because it didn't have a video on YouTube and the song wasn't on Spotify or Apple Music. What is it you don't get? 

Taylor would NOT have gone top 10 with that little support. And I have to cackle at you implying Jay Z was more relevant than Beyoncé during Drunk In Love  Beyoncé outsells her husband in every field, the only reason he's still a thing is because he's married to her. 

Taylor has ZERO impact. Zero. She's doing commercial pop made for radio while Beyoncé is taking risks and getting the recognition for it. If Beyoncé had released Formation properly she would've gone #1 as well. That's not even debatable, the proof is in the numbers.

Lol practice what you preach , Taylor has top 10 hits that legit entered into top 10 based on sales alone and are not even singles.

Speak Now #8

If This was a Movie #10 

Jump then Fall #10

Style became #6 and Ready For It #4 before they even got the single treatment. They were so successful that her team pushed for them because they saw how the public reacted. 

 

[Widows Kiss 7,818]

7 minutes ago, jaXXXon said:

Beyoncé's last top 10 single managed to debut at #10 without being on YouTube or on any streaming platforms. It was almost entirely pure sales. You should do some research. It fell down the charts because it didn't have a video on YouTube and the song wasn't on Spotify or Apple Music. What is it you don't get? 

Taylor would NOT have gone top 10 with that little support. And I have to cackle at you implying Jay Z was more relevant than Beyoncé during Drunk In Love  Beyoncé outsells her husband in every field, the only reason he's still a thing is because he's married to her. 

Taylor has ZERO impact. Zero. She's doing commercial pop made for radio while Beyoncé is taking risks and getting the recognition for it. If Beyoncé had released Formation properly she would've gone #1 as well. That's not even debatable, the proof is in the numbers.

All I hear are excuses.