Beyhives are just jealous cause Taylor's critical acclaim COMES WITH hits

[Suspiria 10,683]

5 hours ago, PinkPop said:

But Beyoncé has a talent in performing that Taylor Swift could NEVER match. 

In the end, no one will remember your sales or what The Guardian said about your album - they will remember the way the artist made you FEEL when you saw them live/saw them perform.

But yes I agree these fan-wars and so stupid.

I mean... I have to disagree the songs that people remember are the most popular ones, the biggest hits that sold the most, not necessarily the best ones.

[ElectricKing 9,405]

23 minutes ago, Suspiria said:

I mean... I have to disagree the songs that people remember are the most popular ones, the biggest hits that sold the most, not necessarily the best ones.

I get you but there are songs that didn't really make it in the charts that become a cultural phenomenon afterwards and similarly songs that sold 6M units in the US and most people forget, because it was only good for the time.

As someone said, Bey is now not chasing after hit singles. Nor is Rihanna. They both release songs that make you feel a certain type of way. That in my opinion has more of an artistic (artistic being the operative word) impact than someone dancing to 'Blank Space' drunk at 3am played because it was 'popular'.

I think they're just two different artists. Taylor Swift chases hits now after her country career. Bey releases songs that have a movement, follow a game-changing visual album and experiment with different styles of vocal arrangement and genre. 

[FlopSlurper 34,336]

5 hours ago, TMM90 said:

I’m not a beywl fan at all. But TS will NEVER EVER be as successful as Beyoncè, EVER.

the Hive has nothinh to be jealous about. They just love to troll. 

lmao but taylor IS more successful than bayonse could ever dream, and that's facts

[jaXXXon 1,538]

I would like you to tell me when was the last time Beyoncé gave her lead single a normal single treatment? Don't want to drag you but...

ME!: BBMA performance + radio payola + behind the scenes YouTube vid where the audio counts for the Hot 100 + upload of BBMA performance on official YouTube channel which counts for the Hot 100 + ME! dance challenges + easy pop radio bubblegum sound + huge promo on billboards around the world.

Formation: Released to SoundCloud for free a whole MONTH before the Super Bowl. Performed at the Super Bowl but NOT AVAILABLE ANYWHERE until TWO MONTHS LATER when her album is released. Formation music video unlisted on YouTube until seven months later, so its views don't count for the Hot 100 and the b!tch still debuted at #10 on the Hot 100 with iTunes sales only. Add to that, her singles aren't available anywhere except for TIDAL. Call me when Taylor releases an album that does this: 

 

I should also mention that Beyoncé's Lemonade RE-ENTERED the TOP 10 on Billboard 200 at #9 because it was finally released to Spotify and Apple Music. A THREE YEAR OLD ALBUM is #9 because it was released to Spotify and made headlines because of that. Taylor doesn't have that power. 

People seem to forget that Taylor has promo campaigns and special offers during her first week while Beyoncé charts solely based on her name. So next time you try coming for Beyoncé make sure you don't use Taylor as an example lmfao. 

[jaXXXon 1,538]

22 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said:

lmao but taylor IS more successful than bayonse could ever dream, and that's facts

Taylor uses sh!tloads of money and cares about having single success, promoting the sh!t out of her lead singles and doing challenges and what not, while Beyoncé simply releases an album and let's the music do the talking and STILL goes Top 10 with the lead single every time. And while Taylor is less and less and less successful from era to era, Beyoncé is bigger than ever now. 

Taylor won't be where Beyoncé's at in her 20th year at this rate. So Beyoncé is quite frankly more successful. 

[Widows Kiss 7,818]

39 minutes ago, jaXXXon said:

Taylor uses sh!tloads of money and cares about having single success, promoting the sh!t out of her lead singles and doing challenges and what not, while Beyoncé simply releases an album and let's the music do the talking and STILL goes Top 10 with the lead single every time. And while Taylor is less and less and less successful from era to era, Beyoncé is bigger than ever now. 

Taylor won't be where Beyoncé's at in her 20th year at this rate. So Beyoncé is quite frankly more successful. 

She debuted as an solo artist in 2003 and her last solo #1 was 2008, 5 years into her solo career. Ever since she's been clinging to more relevant artists trying desperately to get a hit (Telephone, Drunk in Love, Mi Gente, Perfect and many more which weren't hits). Beyonce's last solo effort stayed one week at #10 and then tumbled down the charts. Taylor's last  #1 was 11 years into her career and she's been outselling Beyonce in every single metric you can think of this decade and she will continue to do so.

[Versace 7,979]

1 hour ago, PinkPop said:

Yes and half of these are probably kids. Kids who have been taken by their parents as a Christmas present or someone who has just randomly gone 'ooh it's that girl who sings the we are never ever ever getting back together song, let's get a ticket'.

That much chart success equals success in concerts (also refer to Ed Sheeran)*. Ticket sales does not mean the quality of the concert is good.

 

*Not reducing the amount of talent Ed Sheeran has btw, he's very talented.

That's subjective to you though. Looking at objective things like music sales and ticket sales which Taylor has the edge over Beyonce with. I hate comparing females in the industry but I'm sick of this site belittling Taylor constantly and being bitter AF at the slightest surge of success she gets. 

From a statistical/objective/factual point of view Taylor is the most successful female artist of our time. No ifs or buts about it. We can say "well I feel this", "I think this artist is more talented", etc, etc. Y'all will just have to deal with reality. If I start listing Taylor's accomplishments my computer will probably freeze. 

[MessyTop 14,389]

Beyoncé music doesn’t age well. Like for reals, who da fuc$ listens to “girls who run the world”?  Her music is always dated and so 2003-2005. Yawn

[DC 25,164]

7 hours ago, PinkPop said:

But Beyoncé has a talent in performing that Taylor Swift could NEVER match. 

Where’s her hit? 

[ElectricKing 9,405]

8 minutes ago, ProjectJoanne said:

Where’s her hit? 

Bey's career started a long time ago with Destiny's Child in which there and her first few records she had plenty of hits, she's evolved into bigger and better things. Like game-changing visual albums and conceptual music.

You really think if Bey who is one of the most powerful women and artists in the world who everyone would drop everything to work with, can't get a hit? She just chases artistry more than hits these days.

[ElectricKing 9,405]

6 minutes ago, Versace said:

That's subjective to you though. Looking at objective things like music sales and ticket sales which Taylor has the edge over Beyonce with. I hate comparing females in the industry but I'm sick of this site belittling Taylor constantly and being bitter AF at the slightest surge of success she gets. 

From a statistical/objective/factual point of view Taylor is the most successful female artist of our time. No ifs or buts about it. We can say "well I feel this", "I think this artist is more talented", etc, etc. Y'all will just have to deal with reality. If I start listing Taylor's accomplishments my computer will probably freeze. 

I agree we shouldn't pit anyone against each other, I'm not involved in fan wars. Everyone has their own lane and anyone who is as successful as these two women has undeniably contributed to the music industry.

But in relation to your point about facts, I couldn't give a ****. Because at the end of the day you stan for someone who dances like this:

And my girl dances like this:

Remember that point of feeling? You can give me your whole list of Taylor's 700 trillion record sales, it won't make a difference to me because I am in it for the music and the way an artist makes me feel. Statistics are shallow, yes they are lovely to say 'she's sold 1.5M units in a week' but as Gaga says 'the best part is in the work'.

I'm not bashing Taylor, she's a great songwriter and has had and still has an amazing career - but Bey is an absolute world-class entertainer and musician.

[Mr S 8,673]

Haven't read the entire thread but Taylor and Beyonce's acclaim are not the same at all. Taylor for the most part isn't trashed, like say, Pink or Katy, but her acclaim isn't anywhere close to Beyonce.

Taylor gets the hits but as much as I love her she kind of following in someone like Mariah Carey's footsteps. Lots of hits but no real substance.

Beyonce is the opposite. No hits but there is cultural impact in the US anyway.

The truth is, the hive is insecure of any female artist (especially if they are white) who come close to Beyonce. Taylor Swift and the girl we stan. Adele is bigger as well but is an untouchable (but the first misstep she makes, trust me they will drag her) Girls like Rihanna and Katy eventhough were bigger currently or at some point in time, are not taken as seriously so they don't receive the same hate from them. If Ariana keeps rising, they will turn on her too.

[DC 25,164]

4 minutes ago, PinkPop said:

Bey's career started a long time ago with Destiny's Child in which there and her first few records she had plenty of hits, she's evolved into bigger and better things. Like game-changing visual albums and conceptual music.

You really think if Bey who is one of the most powerful women and artists in the world who everyone would drop everything to work with, can't get a hit? She just chases artistry more than hits these days.

I’m not talking about her stuff from years ago, I’m talking about within the past 6 years, we haven’t gotten a smartly written or huge hit for almost a decade. There’s nothing wrong with that but everyone keeps praising something that I just can’t see 

[Mr S 8,673]

1 hour ago, jaXXXon said:

I would like you to tell me when was the last time Beyoncé gave her lead single a normal single treatment? Don't want to drag you but...

ME!: BBMA performance + radio payola + behind the scenes YouTube vid where the audio counts for the Hot 100 + upload of BBMA performance on official YouTube channel which counts for the Hot 100 + ME! dance challenges + easy pop radio bubblegum sound + huge promo on billboards around the world.

Formation: Released to SoundCloud for free a whole MONTH before the Super Bowl. Performed at the Super Bowl but NOT AVAILABLE ANYWHERE until TWO MONTHS LATER when her album is released. Formation music video unlisted on YouTube until seven months later, so its views don't count for the Hot 100 and the b!tch still debuted at #10 on the Hot 100 with iTunes sales only. Add to that, her singles aren't available anywhere except for TIDAL. Call me when Taylor releases an album that does this: 

 

I should also mention that Beyoncé's Lemonade RE-ENTERED the TOP 10 on Billboard 200 at #9 because it was finally released to Spotify and Apple Music. A THREE YEAR OLD ALBUM is #9 because it was released to Spotify and made headlines because of that. Taylor doesn't have that power. 

People seem to forget that Taylor has promo campaigns and special offers during her first week while Beyoncé charts solely based on her name. So next time you try coming for Beyoncé make sure you don't use Taylor as an example lmfao. 

The numbers show Taylor is bigger. I don't know how anyone can debate that.

Beyonce has done what Taylor has done in the past as well and still didn't reach the numbers Taylor does.

[ElectricKing 9,405]

12 minutes ago, ProjectJoanne said:

I’m not talking about her stuff from years ago, I’m talking about within the past 6 years, we haven’t gotten a smartly written or huge hit for almost a decade. There’s nothing wrong with that but everyone keeps praising something that I just can’t see 

The praise comes from just Beyoncé being Beyoncé.

Have you ever seen one of her performances? It's so meticulously put together. Take a cake for example - let's say you judge the cake on how spongy it is, how decadent it is and how flavoursome it is. It's hard to bake something that has all three perfectly done. I know it's a weird example but take that as Bey. She hits 10/10 for every single box. She sings like a true vocalist, dances like a professional dancer (most artists get shadowed by their backing dancers) and her attitude and quality of her performance is just so groundbreaking.

One of my favourite recent examples of her dancing/remixing her songs into other ones and really dancing to it like it's her own track:

Those vocals though. Flawless.