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1 minute ago, Melech said:

After reading about about the candidates I think that Trudeau is the best choice. 

I can’t really tell who is better of the other two. I like Sheers foreign politics more, but I like Singh politics about woman and LGBT rights more. 

Thing is I wouldn't vote for Singh for those "rights". We already have equal rights and anti discrimination laws in almost everything. The NDP might expand a few more little details but it wouldn't be worth picking them for the election just for that

 

Trudeau hasn't been paying much attention to recent competitiveness issues in Canada and that worries me.

 

My #1 choice is the conservatives. Their economic policies I think would charge Canada more

 

However Trudeau isn't all that bad either. He doesn't do as much as I'd like and often doesn't do much at all but at least he hasn't done anything Terrible either to screw things up which is more than I can say for most governments. He also legalized weed Nationally which I thought was smart for multiple reasons :shrug:

 

The NDP I like for their child care program I think it would help struggling families and encourage more parents to go back to work which would increase productivity

 

But they also tend to favour higher Corporate taxes and right now is not a good time to go that route so I'm worried about competitiveness in this Country if NDP win

 

Also if NDP win there's no way the energy and pipeline crisis in Western Canada that is costing a fortune would ever get resolved :/

 

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Melech
4 minutes ago, Economy said:

Thing is I wouldn't vote for Singh for those "rights". We already have equal rights and anti discrimination laws in almost everything. The NDP might expand a few more little details but it wouldn't be worth picking them for the election just for that

Yes! I would do the same. 

 

5 minutes ago, Economy said:

My #1 choice is the conservatives. Their economic policies I think would charge Canada more

Yeah, I prefer his stance on BDS and Israel, so I guess he would be my second choice! 

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I am really against the tar sand industry and the pipelines so I will probably vote for the Green Party.

I still have to read more about what the NPD is now about since it seemed to have changed a bit since the last elections, but i’m not too hopeful.

I hate too much stuff about those three parties to vote for them and there is no way i’d vote for the Bloc quebecois, so my only options seem to be the Green Party. I kinda hate how parties are never really alligned with my values and prorities, so I’ll loose those elections anyway.

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1 minute ago, Melech said:

Yes! I would do the same. 

 

Yeah, I prefer his stance on BDS and Israel, so I guess he would be my second choice! 

But if the Conservatives don't win, I think Trudeau is tolerable.

 

Again Trudeau may sit back a lot and often not react as much as I'd like but again at least he doesn't screw up much either

 

I'm ok with Conservatives or Liberals

 

I just don't want the NDP tho. The left wing here in Canada often takes socialism to an extreme and they have a history of erroding the Countries business climate federally and provincially when they win :shrug:

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2 minutes ago, ilocorB said:

I am really against the tar sand industry and the pipelines so I will probably vote for the Green Party.

I still have to read more about what the NPD is now about since it seemed to have changed a bit since the last elections, but i’m not too hopeful.

I hate too much stuff about those three parties to vote for them and there is no way i’d vote for the Bloc quebecois, so my only options seem to be the Green Party.

They need to be controlled

 

I think the carbon taxes is good. I also think the emissions cap Alberta put in (no new projects can be approved when that emissions ceiling is hit until emissions come down).

 

We also could look in limiting new approvals of projects and continue to push the technology innovation laws that oil companies have to follow where a certain percentage of revenue has to be put into developing cleaner ways of developing the oil. Thanks to this water and energy use per barrel as well as emissions have dropped tremendously

 

But I also think blocking every pipeline is the wrong way about controlling or even phasing out the oil sands

 

These projects are decades long (oil sands run on long cycles). That means they will run their course if they are up and running already

 

I don't see the benefit of losing so much money with huge oil price discounts because our pipelines are full. I mean selling our oil sometimes at less than half price is rediculous :huh:

 

Also Alberta contributes a lot to the equalization payment program if Canada is gonna be against the oil industry it's hypocritical to accept equalization funds that come from Alberta's oil industry. Quebec is the largest receiver like $10 Billion a year and ironically they are the second biggest oil sands opposers after British Columbia yet they gladly accept the money:shrug:

 

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1 hour ago, Economy said:

In surprised too. The NDP haven't won in decades

I believe the NDP have never won a federal election. But they were on the right track under Jack Layton.  Lost a lot of ground with the leadership of Tom Mulcair though. We'll see how Jagmeet Singh does

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LaLa

I'm so tired and it hasn't even really started yet :bradley:

Ideally I'd back the NDP but I know I'm going to end up voting Liberal and praying the Conservatives don't take it (They will :messga:)

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6 minutes ago, Nikolai Barrow said:

I believe the NDP have never won a federal election. But they were on the right track under Jack Layton.  Lost a lot of ground with the leadership of Tom Mulcair though. We'll see how Jagmeet Singh does

Oh ok. Perhaps every win I'm think of was always Provincial elections. Cuz I know in provinces they have won in multiple occasions

 

I think one of their issues is sometimes their leaders are too aggressive and critical and they just seem more focused on attacking than anything else

 

Thomas Mulcair was very aggressive federally

 

Andrea Horwath is also very aggressive here in Ontario

 

At least Racheal Notley in Alberta not so much tho she lost this last election they just held. Their economy is really suffering with the pipeline issues

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2 minutes ago, LaLa said:

I'm so tired and it hasn't even really started yet :bradley:

Ideally I'd back the NDP but I know I'm going to end up voting Liberal and praying the Conservatives don't take it (They will :messga:)

I mean the last 2 months when campaigns officially start tides often turn so we will see

 

Although unofficially they already started as we're seeing increasing ads and political messages and attacks :laughga:

 

But the Liberals are last this time around so far maybe ur NDP have a better shot than the Liberals tbh

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4 minutes ago, Economy said:

But the Liberals are last this time around so far maybe ur NDP have a better shot than the Liberals tbh

We saw how that went down in Ontario last year :neyde:

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Just now, LaLa said:

We saw how that went down in Ontario last year :neyde:

Well, they did do better than Liberals :oops:. Liberals got like no seats this time :air:

 

Tbh Liberals have done so bad last 15 years in Ontario they basically bankrupt the province

 

We are the most indebted Sub-Sovereign Jurisdiction in the world with $343 Billion in debt

 

The Liberals were dropping money like butter fingers :air:

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ReRe

What are each presidential candidate's / their respective party's views on immigration laws in Canada? 

I am admittedly not very familiar with Canadian politics, so I'm genuinely curious to learn. 

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10 minutes ago, ReRe said:

What are each presidential candidate's / their respective party's views on immigration laws in Canada? 

I am admittedly not very familiar with Canadian politics, so I'm genuinely curious to learn. 

The NDP and Liberals are very pro immigration

 

The Conservatives are fine with immigration too but think Justin Trudeau increase is too high

 

It used to be 250,000 immigrants a year but now it's 330,000 like a 0.8% addition to our population annually from immigration alone. Last year our population grew by over 500,000

 

The pros of this is it helps offset aging baby boomers and work force to an extent (especially since our government refuses to raise retirement age like other countries are doing)

 

But the downside is infrastructure and housing has been very strained. It doesn't help that our construction permiting process in Canada's biggest cities is complicated and slow

 

Despite high prices and demand construction isn't keeping up

 

Toronto for example grows by 100,000 people a year but they estimate housing construction can only accommodate 80,000 new ppl a year so vacancies have fallen to dangerously low level and rents keep surging

 

There's pros to lots of immigration but if our current system isn't capable of absorbing that many without issues then perhaps it needs to be lowered for now. We accept 1/3 the immigrants the US does even tho we have 1/9 the population to give u a comparison :shrug:

 

Population growth was higher after the World Wars without the same issues in housing we have now but back then permit processes and construction wasn't so slow :shrug:

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JustinTrudeau

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Trudeau character aside, I've been busy with school and keeping up with Ford's changes in Ontario to pay attention to the federal election.

But now I got the next few months to keep on track. Not well versed with NDP or Conservatives federal wise (yet), but Trudeau is in a weird spot now with voters. I have no idea how he will be perceived. One of my higher priorities was changing the voting system but that didn't happen...

I'm interested to see how this plays out, especially with the concerns of immigration, Aboriginals, and oil/pipelines. I know some people were displeased with how the weed legalization rolled out but I think the system just needs more time.

On another note, I'm glad Canadian federal elections are short and sweet. Our longest one was 72 days or something, which is heaven for our Southern neighbours ;)

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6 minutes ago, JustinTrudeau said:

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Trudeau character aside, I've been busy with school and keeping up with Ford's changes in Ontario to pay attention to the federal election.

But now I got the next few months to keep on track. Not well versed with NDP or Conservatives federal wise (yet), but Trudeau is in a weird spot now with voters. I have no idea how he will be perceived. One of my higher priorities was changing the voting system but that didn't happen...

I'm interested to see how this plays out, especially with the concerns of immigration, Aboriginals, and oil/pipelines. I know some people were displeased with how the weed legalization rolled out but I think the system just needs more time.

On another note, I'm glad Canadian federal elections are short and sweet. Our longest one was 72 days or something, which is heaven for our Southern neighbours ;)

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Yeah it's an awkard position and I doubt he will win but we will have to see what happens in the next few months

 

As of now polls suggest Sheer would win if elections were held now

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