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7th case of HIV+ despite taking PrEP reported in Australia


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Melech
48 minutes ago, Lion Heart said:

You're supposed to practice safe sex even with PreP. 

No. Prep is considered safe sex 3.0

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7 minutes ago, TheShameMonster said:

I doubt you’re a doctor either and have  barey done enough research on your end to be confident to tell other people not to share their thoughts.

Get off your high horse, your tone of condescension ain’t cute.

i try my hardest not to be condescending but its just  so rude to not be informed on a topic, yet still believe its ok to decide whats right and whats wrong lol 

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5 minutes ago, maxmore said:

tell me, who told you what was right and what wasnt? are you regurgitating someones elses judgement or is it your own?  

 

also: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/judgment 

What? How is anything I said judgmental? I am just 99% sure that any doctor who is prescribing prep to someone, they also tell their patient to practice safe sex as well by wearing a condom but I guess I cannot speak for all doctors. 

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shame
4 minutes ago, maxmore said:

lol i actually am. 

ouf, just goes to show not everyone is good at their jobs

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3 minutes ago, Melech said:

No. Prep is considered safe sex 3.0

key word: considered

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1 minute ago, shoful said:

What? How is anything I said judgmental? I am just 99% sure that any doctor who is prescribing prep to someone, they also tell their patient to practice safe sex as well. 

oh sorry,  i thought you were saying that deliberately. judgement is when we decide if something is generally good or bad. "everybody should act this way because it is the only good way " ---> judgement

         " i act this way because i feel like its the right thing" --> no judgement 

 

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1 minute ago, TheShameMonster said:

ouf, just goes to show not everyone is good at their jobs

oh wow thank you for that objective assessment :spin:

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Well... they literally tell you that PrEP doesn’t protect you 100% & is only 92-99% effective & that you should still use a condom.

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19 minutes ago, shoful said:

What? How is anything I said judgmental? I am just 99% sure that any doctor who is prescribing prep to someone, they also tell their patient to practice safe sex as well by wearing a condom but I guess I cannot speak for all doctors. 

are  you from the states? i am from germany and we practice it differently. could be a USA vs rest of the world thing

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54 minutes ago, maxmore said:

before making scary threads like this, try and read the article diligently ... 

it says that he was taking prep on demand! (meaning that he was taking a pill everyday, only when needed) 

people who choose this regimen are usually at a higher risk... 

its a fact that prep is the safest way to protect oneself + resistance to truvada is extremely rare (which isnt about to change anytime soon).

 

I’m confused, either he was taking a pill everyday (which is the most effective way of using PrEP) or he was only taking it when he knew he was going to have sex. Saying “only when needed” doesn’t mean everyday so I’m just confused lmao. My doctor has said that taking the pill everyday builds PrEP up in your system & therefore is more effective but if you’re taking it randomly “when needed” then that effectiveness drops drastically. Also, taking PrEP isn’t considered safe sex because even if you take it everyday you can still contract HIV. PrEP is just considered another layer of protection & not an answer to unsafe sex. I’m not trying to start an argument either lol I’m just saying what I know of PrEP since I used to be on it & have done extensive research but chose to stop because I actually had side effects & even when I was on it if I were going to have random sex (which I don’t hook up with randoms anyways) I would’ve still used a condom. The only person I don’t use a condom with is my boyfriend of 8 years cause we know where we’ve been & trust each other & don’t have sex with random people we don’t know (in an open relationship lol)

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I'm not even sure they tell women to still use condoms when they take the pill, and we know the pill is not 100% safe so...

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1 minute ago, lovedillon said:

I’m confused, either he was taking a pill everyday (which is the most effective way of using PrEP) or he was only taking it when he knew he was going to have sex. Saying “only when needed” doesn’t mean everyday so I’m just confused lmao. My doctor has said that taking the pill everyday builds PrEP up in your system & therefore is more effective but if you’re taking it randomly “when needed” then that effectiveness drops drastically. Also, taking PrEP isn’t considered safe sex because even if you take it everyday you can still contract HIV. PrEP is just considered another layer of protection & not an answer to unsafe sex. I’m not trying to start an argument either lol I’m just saying what I know of PrEP since I used to be on it & have done extensive research but chose to stop because I actually had side effects & even when I was on it if I were going to have random sex (which I don’t hook up with randoms anyways) I would’ve still used a condom. The only person I don’t use a condom with is my boyfriend of 8 years cause we know where we’ve been & trust each other & don’t have sex with random people we don’t know (in an open relationship lol)

SORRY i meant to write "he wasNT taking a pill everyday"

thank you for the correction :runhug:

 

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11 minutes ago, maxmore said:

are  you from the states? i am from germany and we practice is differently. could be a USA vs rest of the world thing

I’m from the US & my doctor says to also use a condom but that should be told to everyone using PrEP since PrEP is only 92%-99% effective. PrEP is just another layer of protection & shouldn’t be considered the answer to being safe. Any doctor no matter the country should know this since it is literally the science behind the pill & if they aren’t telling you this then they don’t know enough about the pill. Also thanks for correcting what you said, it makes a lot more sense now lmao

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2 minutes ago, lovedillon said:

Yeah, I’m the US my doctor says to also use a condom but that should be told to everyone using PrEP since PrEP is only 92%-99% effective. PrEP is just another layer of protection & shouldn’t be considered the answer to being safe. Any doctor no matter the country should know this since it is literally the science behind the pill & if they aren’t telling you this then they don’t know enough about the pill. 

so it is a US vs rest of the world thing haha. there are literally grand scale trials with people having bb sex while on prep and NOT contracting hiv.  where were you doing your research? 

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Melech
21 minutes ago, TheShameMonster said:

key word: considered

??? Same as condoms are considered safe sex. Condoms doesn’t work 100% either. 

 

17 minutes ago, maxmore said:

are  you from the states? i am from germany and we practice it differently. could be a USA vs rest of the world thing

Germany is in general more sex positive than the US tbh 

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