LG6 2nd single - the original or the promo? let's speculate

[KatieJudasGaga4 67,907]

3 minutes ago, little legend said:

2nd  single? Wow you are so brave?

Knowing Gaga's eras since 2011, LG6 probably will have just one single and if they release a 2nd single, without video, promo and etc. 

But Million Reasons had huge promo and a video. 

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8 minutes ago, KatieJudasGaga4 said:

But Million Reasons had huge promo and a video. 

But Perfect Illusion hadn't promo, DWUW hadn't video and GUY had not promo 

Since ARTPOP only one single per era had video + promo 

[KatieJudasGaga4 67,907]

2 minutes ago, little legend said:

But Perfect Illusion hadn't promo, DWUW hadn't video and GUY had not promo 

Since ARTPOP only one single per era had video + promo 

Oh, I thought you were going by 2nd singles, never mind

[MaryJaneHolland 77,348]

NO promo singles, they always mess up the era.

[voidfigure 1,612]

Let the album come out first

[derpmonster 22,412]

23 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said:

NO promo singles, they always mess up the era.

But they also help her make the better received song as the second single which is good for the GP even if messy for us. 

 

She may not even be here if BDR was the single after Just Dance and Poker Face never happened. Joanne wouldn't have had a single hit without Million Reasons. 

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[Grim 2,266]

Well I would like to have the first single right now

[Smithy 2,830]

1 hour ago, MaryJaneHolland said:

NO promo singles, they always mess up the era.

!!!! This 

And then she has to rush together some concept for a music video, it never ends well 

[Bradley 59,929]

1 hour ago, mauvais said:

I think most fans who complain about the single switch ups understand the industry-based logic behind their decisions, but that doesn't mean Gaga and her team made the best decisions. DWUW and Million Reasons are also very different models for what can go 'wrong.' 

1. With ARTPOP, literally any song makes for a better second single because DWUW is literally the worst thing that's ever happened in her career!  Who the f*ck cares that the song would've been a hit if she released a music video? Somewhere in the ether exists a video alluding to Lady Gaga getting r*ped because her team wanted a hit!!!!!!  I'll take Venus peaking at #101 on the bubbling under chart over DWUW going #1 any day. The lesson here is have a team that gives a single f*ck about you and don't release songs with rapists. 

2. After PI underperformed, it didn't really matter what they did but obviously, in hindsight, if MR peaked with the SB, there was time various releases that didn't materialize. A-YO with JW's video + apple music exclusive then MR would've been cute. They should plan for promo singles to become singles and film a few music videos before the album is released because you shouldn't be singing your song on SNL, the AMAs, etc without a video, which is what happened during AP and Joanne.

We're talking about their mentalities in 2013/2014, and R. Kelly did have some controversy, but people had already forgotten about it at that point. She obviously didn't know the controversy would be blown up again in 2018, if she had known she wouldn't have chosen it as a single.

However, from a music and business perspective, Do What U Want was considered a better choice by critics and fans, the critics didn't even mention the R. Kelly controversy at all in their reviews, even applauding their AMA performance. And how is Do What U Want alluding to rape? It was about having a stronger mentality, yes with sexual innuendos but nothing about rape.

About Joanne, artists don't usually assume which songs are subsequent singles because they want to gauge audience reaction, which is why they refrained from shooting any videos except for Perfect Illusion. Like I said, who can guarantee that A-YO would do better than Million Reasons and be recognised critically?

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[FfFfFfFF 57,732]

The one that connects with the people the most. There is no need to stick to a label-made album roll out only for the sake of it.

[Bradley 59,929]

2 minutes ago, mauvais said:

Uh, I'm talking about the DWUW video in which R. Kelly drugs her and says she's going to wake up pregnant  also when are people going to stop pretending like DWUW wasn't iconic because  R. Kelly is a rapist... like we all knew 

I wouldn't say artists necessarily gage audience interest before releasing singles, no. Especially not second singles. If you look at Taylor, Katy, Gaga in the past they release second singles for various reasons other than audience reaction. It doesn't really matter if A-YO 'did better' or it was 'recognised critically' because PI flopped and she liked A-YO, that's all   and MR could've always followed and still hit all the same marks, like I said.  Also, she delivered her usual Gaga visuals in an apple exclusive MV so it's not like she took a traditional path to success that album cycle at all. 

I agree that the video could have been shot with better themes, but we were talking about how they chose Do What U Want over Venus before the video was even planned. Like I said, R. Kelly did have scandals, but he was already forgiven at the end of 2013, sort of like Guardians of the Galaxy just rehired James Gunn for the new movie again? You get it? No one is trying to justify what R. Kelly did though. I'm just saying people are harsher to Kelly than they did in 2013.

And I'm not sure if I understood entirely correctly, but if you're saying that it doesn't matter if she chose A-YO or Million Reasons because you wanted her to follow what she truly loved, instead of following commercial success as an indication, then I guess I can agree though from a business perspective, the label would always opt for something which has higher prospective of success. It creates possibility to spawn more singles, and fund more videos and tours, which is only logical and wise.