Brandi Jackson spills tea on ex Wade Robson

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Brandi Jackson, MJ's niece has some tea on Wade Robson, she was Wade's girlfriend. She was left out of the Leaving Neverland exclusive, whilst she was Wade Robson's girlfriend for 8 years, even during the alleged period of "molestation".... I hope you guys will listen in, because the media will never admit the story of Wade is fishy.

Introduction (summary):

John Ziegler is a radio program host, documentary film writer/director, and journalist. The interviewer John Ziegler has become somewhat of an expert in descerning whether or not these types of stories are real or not, largely because of his experience in the penstate childsex abuse "Joe Paterno/ Jerry Sanduski" case. He is looking at this case, because there is no one else who is willing to at least say  "hold on a second, wait a minute, let's look at the facts here, and figure out whether or not we are looking at these stories with emotion or some sense of rationality and whether or not these stories are fact based and can hold up under any sense of scrutiny.

According to John this was not a documentary, it was exceedingly unfair, even if Michael were to be guilty of being a pedophile. His reason for taking on the other side of the story, is because he has an extreme sense of aversion when it comes to unfairness and when it comes to people that are lying. If you combine complete unfairness and abject lying about someone he doesn't like that much, like for instance Michael Jackson, it bothers John Ziegler greatly. Because of this John Ziegler is becoming the journalist on the forefront of these allegations. He believes that this is the most important interview he might ever done regarding leaving Neverland, probably even more important than the two accusers themselves: with Brandi Jackson. She should have been in the "documentary", she should have been interviewed for it. Brandi Jackson is one of Michael Jackson's nieces, she also happened to have dated Wade Robson; the "star" of the film Leaving Neverland. 

Summary of the interview (summary):

1. Brandi's motivation is the truth, not money, because MJ is not here to defend himself, she believes people need to stand up and defend him for fair treatment of this situation.

2. Brandi's father is the oldest brother of the Jackson family, he's MJ's oldest brother. Her father and his brothers still tour till this day.

3. The family doesn't get anything from Michael's legacy except for MJ's children and MJ's mother.

4. Brandi's interviews where cancelled left and right, they had been scheduled the same week as the documentary. Only podcasts and radio interviews that would have her she could jump on. 
Brandi Jackson had a planned interview on Good Morning America and ABC interview. As the dates approached...they got cancelled the week prior to the airing of the documentary. Originally she was asked to come on these interviews...
The reason for the cancellation was convoluted: it had to do with a night show picking up another, and they didn't really give a reason to why didn't want to take interview any further.
She believes she was denied to tell her side of the story, by telling her a vague reason.

5. Wade and Brandi met in 1991 when they were 9 years old, they did the LA Gear photoshoot with MJ and did the Black or White video, after doing those two shoots Wade developed a crush on Brandi and had asked her uncle MJ to set up a situation where they could get to know eachother further. MJ invited Wade, Wade's sister and Wade's mother, as well as Brandi and her brother to the Neverland ranch. They spent 5-7 days there to get to know eachother, and after this trip Wade asked Brandi very kindly if she wanted to be his girlfriend. They were 12 years old when they "actually" started dating. They didn't have sex until their 18th birthday, it was an age appropriate relationship. Wade was okay with waiting until they were 18. They didn't have actual intercourse, but did do other sexually related things.
 

6. At the time Brandi assumed Wade had his first time with her, because she were close and were dating exclusively, later she had found out that Wade had been sleeping around. Before they actually had sex she had questioned him several times on whether he had sex before, he had begun producing several artists; Mandy Moore, Britney Spear, and a lot of other artists prior to that, doing a lot of choreographing. She felt he changed a lot and suddenly became more secretive about choreographing certain jobs. He did not tell her exactly who was there and when he would come back. It felt weird to her, she knew that something was up. She began to question him more, specifically after he started choreographing for Britney Spears.

7. Wade is heterosexual in Brandi's mind, he didn't seem in the slightest a bit bisexual.

8. Wade was pursueing Britney in the time frame he was dating Brandi (during the time Britney had a thing with Justin). Justin Timberlake brought Wade onto a production, not to just choreograph but also do actual production. And through this Wade got closer to Britney, and they started sleeping with eachother. (trivia: JT's Cry Me a River was based on this situation),

9. This tea on Wade was confided to Brandi by a mutual contact of both Wade and Brandi. This mutual contact of Brandi and Wade, called Brandi with the information that Wade was cheating on her with Britney, but Wade was also sleeping with several other women, including someone's wife (a VERY famous person) and an underage girl. This disclosed mutual contact is extremely credible, and Brandi knew this person wouldn't lie to her about this.

10. Brandi confronted Wade when this came into the news, and he told her that this was not true, but then pauzed and started crying. He asked her how she could possibly know these things, and how she knew their names. Wade never denied that he cheated. After this she split up, and also stopped being friend with him. This all was around 2000-2001.

11. Brandi and Wade had a sexual relationship for about a year or 2 until it blew apart.

12. John Ziegler summarizes the before mentioned content and comments: 

Hearing this story about you (Brandi) and Wade, and trying to understand Wade's "story", let's go through this....obviously no one would really know of how a victim of that kind of really horrendous sexual abuse would react...why isn't he showcasing disfunctional in the way that he views sex? It seemed like he showed "innocent" normal teenager behaviour for someone who supposedly got "messed" up by an alleged long period of horrible sexual abuse. Why would he wait 6 years to have sex with his girlfriend...while he "allegedly" had sex with Michael right of the bat? It doesn't add up.

13. Brandi mentioned to John, if it were true, she assume that it would carry over to their relationship since they loved eachother. They loved eachother as friends, and they loved eachother as people would be in a relationship.

14. Growing up with Wade, Brandi did not notice or see any type of indication of a sexual encounter/abuse of that nature. And when Wade started to change and cheat on her, she was able to pick up on that immediately (women's intuition).

15. John Ziegler talking on how a victim of sexual abuse would usually behave based on study, especially of cases when a boy is abused by a man:

When a heterosexual young boy/man is abused in a way that Wade was allegedly being abused by Michael, that has a profound impact on a man's psyche, his confidence and especially his sexual confidence. And comparing this picture to the way you (Brandi) are describing Wade, he seemed perfectly normal with you and breaking up Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake at Britney's celebrity peak...that takes a lot of confidence...

Back to Brandi:

16. Wade is extremely confident, he has always been. He has a self awareness in an almost egocentric, narcissistic kind of way. If he wants something, he's gonna go after it. He's had never had any type of setback or any type of insecurities that would prevent him from anything or whatever the thing is that he wants.

17. Brandi is 100% sure Wade was NOT sexually abused by Michael Jackson. There was not even a question in her mind that he was being sexually abused. 

18. Brandi bases this on her uncle: 1. She knew her uncle very well, he would never do the things Wade is claiming. 2. She knows Wade, she knows his behavior, and that he is a liar and a manipulator. He was not abused. His behavior has never indicated anything of the sort. And that is why his mother and his family were always fine with him being around Michael, because they were there too. There was nothing inappropriate happening to make anyone feel uncomfortable.

John Ziegler:

What would you say to the people that did you not see the signs,etc? 

Brandi:

I would say, I'm not blind at all. You have to understand, when I was in the 5th grade, the first allegations came out in 1993, This was something I was aware of. But if I had red flags going off, there was already a platform for it. People are saying all these things, but if there was something I would have picked up these red flags right away. There is no doubt in my mind that this didn't happen.

 

 

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[DpHitch1992 1,158]

Surely it would have been even harder for wade to admit to what MJ had done to him since he was dating his niece? I think you can look at this both ways 

[SEANGT 5,191]

can we stop this desperate dragging of the victims from the documentary. It's so cringey. 

[JazzGa 14,612]

Can you summarize what she said please? I can't listen for an hour  

[Chromatislaps 34,837]

21 hours ago, SEANGT said:

can we stop this desperate dragging of the victims from the documentary. It's so cringey. 

No, we should hear all sides. Blindly taking something at face-value is dangerous. Be intelligent and do some research before jumping to conclusions. That mentality has convicted innocent people in the past.

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20 minutes ago, Satans Ex Wife said:

Can you summarize what she said please? I can't listen for an hour  

I will update it later, I will have to write it out.. it may take a while 

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4 minutes ago, SEANGT said:

can we keep up the dragging of the con artists from the documentary. It's so cringey. 

Yes.

[Gimme More 35,299]

i think people should listen to this, all the stuff from the 'documentary' and interviews have been very one-sided. If it was a true documentary it would of included other people from Michael's camp/family/friends. I honestly believe they are just here for money and to ruin Michael's reputation.

I've never liked Wade since the early 2000s, I just do not find him and the other accuser trustworthy.

Don't come for me for expressing my opinion. But to be fair people should listen to both sides. People are too easy to  believe the 'victims' straight away nowadays.

[Gimme More 35,299]

Listening to Brandi say she thought her bf at the time (Wade) was having an affair with Britney while she was with JT. Makes sense as it was highly rumoured and suggested by JT that this happened and led to their break-up. 

[LilMonst3r 5,424]

13 minutes ago, Gimme More said:

i think people should listen to this, all the stuff from the 'documentary' and interviews have been very one-sided. If it was a true documentary it would of included other people from Michael's camp/family/friends. I honestly believe they are just here for money and to ruin Michael's reputation.

I've never liked Wade since the early 2000s, I just do not find him and the other accuser trustworthy.

Don't come for me for expressing my opinion. But to be fair people should listen to both sides. People are too easy to  believe the 'victims' straight away nowadays.

Sis you got a Britney pic I'm sure you had your reasons to not like him and it's not just because he came out saying Michael Molested him. I'm sure he dated Michael's niece to be close to Michael he was in love with Michael.  

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23 minutes ago, SEANGT said:

can we stop this desperate dragging of the alleged victims from the documentary. It's so cringey. 

Fixed (P.S: who are also admitted perjurers who lied under oath SEVERAL times including in their 2013 and 2014 cases).

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4 minutes ago, myluis617 said:

Sis you got a Britney pic I'm sure you had your reasons to not like him and it's not just because he came out saying Michael Molested him. I'm sure he dated Michael's niece to be close to Michael he was in love with Michael.  

i don't stick up for everything because i like Britney, i'm not a big fan of Michaels but i can see people are being extremely unfair and not looking at both sides. Wade has a reputation for being untrustworthy and out for money and fame.

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18 minutes ago, myluis617 said:

Sis you got a Britney pic I'm sure you had your reasons to not like him and it's not just because he came out saying Michael Molested him. I'm sure he dated Michael's niece to be close to Michael he was in love with Michael.  

Regardless of being a fan of Britney, MJ, Justin Timberlake, NSync...whoever...it is besides the point.

It is clear that you didn't listen to this interview. I watched Leaving Neverland, and found it questionable. I want to know all sides before forming a proper view/opinion on the matter. I am not gonna believe something because it's on a TV screen, if we go by that logic, we can believe any "documentaries" about conspiracies, any tabloid junk, any **** the media spouts. Get deeper and educate yourself.

Wade and Brandi had a long time relationship, and she found out that Wade cheated on her, and that he was very manipulative. Also the mother Joy, was very manipulative, she did everything to get her son in the attention of MJ, she also wanted to take custody of MJ's kids after MJ's death instead of Katherin Jackson (MJ's mother) whilst the Robson family had already distanced themselves from the jackson family for quite some years. 

Wade has cut several "lifelines" to his career: Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears and when MJ died, his last career lifeline in Hollywood died. The family was desperate to cling to the connections they had. Wade being not being chosen as the director of Circque Du Soleil The One,was the last straw for the family in order to keep up their finances.

[geusst1235 5,398]

Here is also some more stuff as to why they are not credible. 

"Both men strenuously defended Jackson, including under oath, for decades, and only decided they’d been molested years after his death, when they were both in financial trouble and filed a lawsuit seeking hundreds of millions of dollars. That lawsuit was thrown out of court – twice – but the men are in the middle of an appeal, giving them a gigantic financial motive to lie.

Since filing their lawsuit, both men have repeatedly changed their stories, frequently telling directly contradictory versions of the same supposed events. For example, Wade Robson has told at least four directly contradictory stories about the first time Jackson supposedly abused him.

In the lawsuit, Robson was caught lying under oath so brazenly that the judge threw out his entire witness statement and said no rational juror could ever believe his account.

Between 2012 and 2014, Robson wrote two drafts of an abuse memoir and tried unsuccessfully to sell them to publishers. Meanwhile, he lied under oath and said he’d never discussed his allegations with anyone except his lawyers. When the Jackson estate discovered he’d actually been shopping books, the court ordered him to produce the drafts as evidence. They revealed the story of his abuse had changed significantly from one draft to the next.

Robson was also ordered to release his emails as evidence. He breached the order repeatedly, first by claiming they didn’t exist, then by simply refusing to hand them over. Then he redacted all the emails between himself and his family members and cited ‘attorney-client’ privilege, even though none of his family are attorneys.

When he eventually complied with the court order and released the emails, they revealed that at the time he was constructing his lawsuit and abuse memoir, he was researching and emailing himself links to old tabloid newspaper stories about abuse allegations against Michael Jackson.

The emails showed Robson found one particular story from the early 1990s which specifically named he and his mother. He emailed it to his mother and asked whether it was true. She replied, ‘Wow, none of that is true’. He then included it in his story anyway.

Emails also revealed that throughout 2011/12, Robson was lobbying Jackson’s estate for a job directing and choreographing an official Michael Jackson tribute show in Las Vegas. His campaign to secure this role had included sending emails explaining that his amazing friendship with Jackson meant nobody was better qualified for the role than he was, and he was devoted to doing the best job he possibly could ‘for Michael’. After being told someone else had got the job, he suddenly claimed he’d been abused and filed a creditor’s claim against the estate for millions of dollars.

Months later, according to Jimmy Safechuck, he flipped on the TV and saw Wade Robson being interviewed about his lawsuit. In that moment, Safechuck suddenly remembered that he had been abused by Jackson as well, so decided to join the lawsuit. He didn’t mention that this epiphany coincided exactly with his inheritance circling the drain after a relative died and the surviving siblings started suing each other – including him – for control of the family business.

Robson was also ordered to produce his diaries as evidence. In them, he’d written about how these allegations might rescue his failing career by making him ‘relatable and relevant’. He also wrote, ‘It’s time for me to get mine.’ When questioned under oath about what he’d meant when he wrote that, he refused to answer.

Both men tell stories in the TV show which directly contradict stories told under oath in their lawsuit. In fact, they have continued to change their stories as recently as within the last week.

For example, Jimmy Safechuck claims under oath in the lawsuit that he only remembered Jackson had abused him in 2013 when he turned on the TV and saw Robson. Yet in tonight’s TV show and interviews promoting it, he claims he knew he’d been abused in 2005 and thus, when asked to testify for Jackson’s defence ‘towards the end of the trial’, he refused to do so.

But that’s a provable lie. Safechuck was never asked to testify for Jackson’s defence. The judge ruled long before the trial began that testimony could only be heard about certain children, and Safechuck was not one of them. All testimony about Safechuck was literally banned from the courtroom. So Jackson’s defence cannot have asked him to testify – and certainly not after the trial was already underway.

Robson claimed in a BBC interview last week that Jackson had abused him ‘hundreds of times’. Yet his mother’s sworn testimony is that they went to Neverland roughly 14 times but Jackson was almost never there. She estimates the number of times they visited the ranch and he was actually there was four.

[Robson’s claim that he was abused in the recording studio while Jackson was working on his Dangerous album is completely refuted by Brad Sundberg who was present in the studio every single time Jackson was and witnessed absolutely no suspicious behaviour.] (Added by u/Catch-up)

Questioned about their financial motive, the men now say they don’t care about money and are only suing to embolden other abuse victims by holding the Jackson estate accountable. This is a provable lie. The lawsuit was originally filed under seal and Robson tried to extract a settlement from the estate with zero publicity. Only when the estate refused to pay a bean did he go public."

 

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i really honestly do not believe these 'accusers'. the fact there are even talks for a 'sequel'