Supersonic 49,376 Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 He's literally saying "If you're in a gay relationship and want to have a child, you are going to traumatize it, trying to raise it. You are not straight and nothing comes even close to replacing the dynamic of a man and a woman in trying to raise a child." How is that not problematic, when we have literal scientific studies that back the claim that same-sex parentage is more successul than heterosexual parentage. It's almost as nonsensical as the claim that "Gay parents will produce gay kids." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy McSass 814 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, TheShameMonster said: there are plenty of children who do not get a proper or healthy upbringing from straight parents and end up as bad eggs all you need is a loving and stable family i do agree that you need role models of both genders though This. I want to believe this is what he wanted to say because I always thought of him as a more open minded person (from his support of Me Too and his work on Brooklyn 99). Unfortunately - if this is the case - it was a really bad way to say it. I’m sad. I’ll keep looking for Wonderland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipper 13,078 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Social media is the toilet of the internet. I like the guy but I don't want to see him dump in the toilet. Everyone has views like this and sometimes I'd rather not know the views if the person just so you can live peaceful unproblematic lives. 🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnother 5,113 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, lost in limbo said: I can't have one straight man that's not problematic can I? Bradley says hi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, JustAnother said: Bradley says hi I know, it's just Plus I'm afraid to agree with you and then Bradley does smth problematic this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Boy 3,260 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 He has a point, male and female parents both offer different influences on a child, and ideally it would be best to have both those influences from birth. But as hundreds of years of families have proven, children can still turn into fully developed healthy people in single sex families, and many people who had a “Mom and Dad” turned out royally ****ed up. The environmemt kids are raised in is more important at the end of the day, so i don’t know why we still have this stupid debate or why Terry went on some random rant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOriginalOne 10,850 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Oh no i was rooting for ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC 25,164 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, lost in limbo said: hum he just said it was badly worded, not that he didn't still stand by his opinion that same-sex parenting and single parenting isn't as sucessful as straight parenting. So what can you do? There's no point in changing his perception, he's always gonna keep an opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, DCgaga said: So what can you do? There's no point in changing his perception, he's always gonna keep an opinion. well duh, I never said otherwise now I'll just stop supporting him, that's all. not much I myself can do at the end of the day lol this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinaBoninaBrown 491 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Ignorance at its highest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist 9,818 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, Supersonic said: He's literally saying "If you're in a gay relationship and want to have a child, you are going to traumatize it, trying to raise it. You are not straight and nothing comes even close to replacing the dynamic of a man and a woman in trying to raise a child." How is that not problematic, when we have literal scientific studies that back the claim that same-sex parentage is more successul than heterosexual parentage. It's almost as nonsensical as the claim that "Gay parents will produce gay kids." you're way too dramatic with this also, very interested in those studies that prove that, can you send me some links please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
witchcocktor 1,438 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I thought he was a smart, progressive guy. It's just... when you say things like this, you are doing more harm than you think. Why would you want children with same sex parents, or only one parent, those who come from dysfunctional family or who have no parents at all, feel like they are somehow invalid, dysfunctional and not fully people, that they cannot thrive or become fully functioning, great adults, because they were deprived of your idealistic idea of a family? It's just so stupid. I think he is so in love with the bubble he lives in, that's probably deprived of diverse families, that he cannot think different. He did say that a child needs paternal and maternal love '' no matter where it comes from '' though, but why bring up same sex couples at all then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 14,701 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 He said nothing wrong here at all. He made it very clear that same sex couples can raise children - but that these children will also need to have input from the opposite gender. How can anyone argue against that? He isn't saying that only straight couples can have children. He made it clear that the paternal and maternal love can come from anywhere - from aunties, from uncles, from family friends. No one can disagree with this. You think it would be right for a child to be raised with the input of exclusively one gender? Of course it wouldn't. But that doesn't exclude same sex couples from becoming parents - it excludes them from raising their children with /only/ men or /only/ women... which no same sex couple would ever want to do anyway. So I guess it's an odd argument to make - but it isn't offensive or inaccurate, just odd. subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Antichrist said: you're way too dramatic with this also, very interested in those studies that prove that, can you send me some links please? ...he's literally calling them "malnourished of love" and I'm the dramatic one. Don't take this personal, but why are you asking me to provide links when it's out on the web and easily accessible? The wikipedia page about LGBT parenting provides 15 different sources to this claim, it's really not that hard to find. I'm not a teacher, nor am I a professor and I shouldn't feel obligated to educate you just so you can properly join a discussion. That's your own responsibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
witchcocktor 1,438 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, OMonster said: He said nothing wrong here at all. He made it very clear that same sex couples can raise children - but that these children will also need to have input from the opposite gender. How can anyone argue against that? He isn't saying that only straight couples can have children. He made it clear that the paternal and maternal love can come from anywhere - from aunties, from uncles, from family friends. No one can disagree with this. You think it would be right for a child to be raised with the input of exclusively one gender? Of course it wouldn't. But that doesn't exclude same sex couples from becoming parents - it excludes them from raising their children with /only/ men or /only/ women... which no same sex couple would ever want to do anyway. So I guess it's an odd argument to make - but it isn't offensive or inaccurate, just odd. What is maternal love and what is paternal love? What can't a man do that a woman can, and vice versa? What can a woman give to a child that a man can't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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