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slayo

his original tweet wasn't even bad... he was right in many ways. his second tweet was worded poorly. no ill will against him.

Make it stupid!
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Antichrist
3 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

...he's literally calling them "malnourished of love" and I'm the dramatic one.  :laughga: Don't take this personal, but why are you asking me to provide links when it's out on the web and easily accessible? The wikipedia page about LGBT parenting provides 15 different sources to this claim, it's really not that hard to find. I'm not a teacher, nor am I a professor and I shouldn't feel obligated to educate you just so you can properly join a discussion. That's your own responsibility. :shrug:

i'm asking you to provide links, because you're stating there are scientific facts that prove otherwise, and then you post a wikipedia link.

 

ofc you shouldn't feel obligated to do anything, don't get me wrong, but if you go on saying how there are facts that prove something, and then tell me to 'find them yourself, you're on the internet, and i shouldn't feel obligated'... well... :emma:

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RahrahWitch

I don't understand his logic at all, What can one gender give to a child that the other can't? Why is the child going to malnourished of Love if they have same sex or a single parent?

In a later tweet he said "As a human being there are things you can only get from your mother." Like what exactly, Breast milk?

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Supersonic
5 minutes ago, OMonster said:

He said nothing wrong here at all. 

He made it very clear that same sex couples can raise children - but that these children will also need to have input from the opposite gender. How can anyone argue against that?

He isn't saying that only straight couples can have children. He made it clear that the paternal and maternal love can come from anywhere - from aunties, from uncles, from family friends. 

No one can disagree with this. You think it would be right for a child to be raised with the input of exclusively one gender? Of course it wouldn't. But that doesn't exclude same sex couples from becoming parents - it excludes them from raising their children with /only/ men or /only/ women... which no same sex couple would ever want to do anyway. So I guess it's an odd argument to make - but it isn't offensive or inaccurate, just odd.

I think you realized it yourself: It's a very odd and redundant statement to make, no same sex couple only interacts with people of their own gender. And nobody would feel the need to put it that specific way that he did, unless they were having homophobic back thoughts.

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Meredith Grey

The people getting mad at this are quite dramatic. Terry Crews is trying to say that a child should have some sort of figure of BOTH sexes to look up to not necessarily a parent though.

Also, Terry Crews has proven countless times he is progressive and is for the betterment of society. Before u all go canceling him pls try to educate him and hear him out. Cancelling culture has hurt ALL social movements more than it has helped it.

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Antichrist
1 minute ago, Supersonic said:

I think you realized it yourself: It's a very odd and redundant statement to make, no same sex couple only interacts with people of their own gender. And nobody would feel the need to put it that specific way that he did, unless they were having homophobic back thoughts.

really? why? which aspect, which 'thing', which whatever, what thing proves that it makes them homophobic? i'm really confused by this.

 

EDIT: i mean, you people want equality of both sexes, and then get mad when someone wants a new-born child to have that aspect of equality of both sexes. not saying that having same-sex parents is bad in any way, but...

 

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Supersonic
1 minute ago, Antichrist said:

i'm asking you to provide links, because you're stating there are scientific facts that prove otherwise, and then you post a wikipedia link. 

 

ofc you shouldn't feel obligated to do anything, don't get me wrong, but if you go on saying how there are facts that prove something, and then tell me to 'find them yourself, you're on the internet, and i shouldn't feel obligated'... well... :emma:

...I'm redirecting you to wikipedia to look at the literal 15 sources that are listed in the first paragraph. But sure, if you aren't even willing to do 2 seconds of clicking and scrolling:

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Pawelski, J. G.; Perrin, E. C.; Foy, J. M.; Allen, C. E.; Crawford, J. E.; Del Monte, M.; Kaufman, M.; Klein, J. D.; Smith, K.; Springer, S.; Tanner, J. L.; Vickers, D. L. (2006). "The Effects of Marriage, Civil Union, and Domestic Partnership Laws on the Health and Well-being of Children". Pediatrics. 118 (1): 349–364. doi:10.1542/peds.2006-1279. PMID 16818585. Retrieved November 2, 2013.

"AMA Policy Regarding Sexual Orientation". American Medical Association. Retrieved November 2, 2013.

"Position Statement on Support of Legal Recognition of Same-Sex Civil Marriage" (PDF). American Psychiatric Association. Retrieved November 2, 2013.

"Statement on Marriage and the Family". American Anthropological Association. Retrieved June 9, 2015.

"Position Statement on Adoption and Co-parenting of Children by Same-sex Couples" (PDF). American Psychiatric Association. 2002. Retrieved November 2, 2013.

"The APA reaffirms support for same-sex marriage". San Diego Gay and Lesbian News. 2010-08-11. Retrieved July 28, 2012.

"Support for Marriage Equality" (PDF). American Academy of Nursing. July 2012. Retrieved November 2, 2013.

"Marriage of Same-Sex Couples – 2006 Position Statement Canadian Psychological Association" (PDF). 2006. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2009-04-19.

"Elizabeth Short, Damien W. Riggs, Amaryll Perlesz, Rhonda Brown, Graeme Kane: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) Parented Families – A Literature Review prepared for The Australian Psychological Society" (PDF). Retrieved 2010-11-05.

Brief of the American Psychological Association, Kentucky Psychological Association, Ohio Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, Michigan Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, National Association of Social Workers, National Association of Social Workers Tennessee Chapter, National Association of Social Workers Michigan Chapter, National Association of Social Workers Kentucky Chapter, National Association of Social Workers Ohio Chapter, American Psychoanalytic Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, and American Medical Association as Amici Curiae in Support of Petitioners

Herek GM (September 2006). "Legal recognition of same-sex relationships in the United States: a social science perspective" (PDF). The American Psychologist. 61 (6): 607–21. doi:10.1037/0003-066X.61.6.607. PMID 16953748. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2010-06-10.

Biblarz, Timothy J.; Stacey, Judith (2010). "How Does the Gender of Parents Matter?". Journal of Marriage and Family. 72: 3–22. CiteSeerX 10.1.1.593.4963. doi:10.1111/j.1741-3737.2009.00678.x. Archived from the original on 19 October 2017. Retrieved 26 July 2015.

Brief presented to the Legislative House of Commons Committee on Bill C38 by the Canadian Psychological Association – June 2, 2005.

Davis, Annie (October 22, 2017). "Children raised by same-sex parents do as well as their peers, study shows". The Guardian. Retrieved March 28, 2018.

Bever, Lindsey (July 7, 2014). "Children of same-sex couples are happier and healthier than peers, research shows". The Washington Post. Retrieved March 28, 2018.

 

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witchcocktor
4 minutes ago, Meredith Grey said:

The people getting mad at this are quite dramatic. Terry Crews is trying to say that a child should have some sort of figure of BOTH sexes to look up to not necessarily a parent though.

Also, Terry Crews has proven countless times he is progressive and is for the betterment of society. Before u all go canceling him pls try to educate him and hear him out. Cancelling culture has hurt ALL social movements more than it has helped it.

But he is not saying this? He is saying a child needs a maternal figure who gives motherly love, and a paternal figure who gives paternal love. He talks nothing about a child needing men and women to look up to. If that's what his point was, there would be no issue, and I don't think he'd even say anything regarding this issue out loud to begin with because obviously every child is going to have male and female figures present in their life.

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OBEY
3 minutes ago, witchcocktor said:

But he is not saying this? He is saying a child needs a maternal figure who gives motherly love, and a paternal figure who gives paternal love. He talks nothing about a child needing men and women to look up to. If that's what his point was, there would be no issue, and I don't think he'd even say anything regarding this issue out loud to begin with because obviously every child is going to have male and female figures present in their life.

drag iT ! :applause: 

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Meredith Grey
13 minutes ago, witchcocktor said:

But he is not saying this? He is saying a child needs a maternal figure who gives motherly love, and a paternal figure who gives paternal love. He talks nothing about a child needing men and women to look up to. If that's what his point was, there would be no issue, and I don't think he'd even say anything regarding this issue out loud to begin with because obviously every child is going to have male and female figures present in their life.

Pretty sure “doesn’t matter where that love comes from” means it doesn’t have to come from one of the parents???? But i mean go off i guess lol

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1 hour ago, TheShameMonster said:

there are plenty of children who do not get a proper or healthy upbringing from straight parents and end up as bad eggs

all you need is a loving and stable family

i do agree that you need role models of both genders though

Omg of course it’s you that comes through with this perfectly worded :diane:

I do agree that there are some points he has made, but that as a parent it is not fully necessary.

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PunkTheFunk
20 minutes ago, Meredith Grey said:

The people getting mad at this are quite dramatic. Terry Crews is trying to say that a child should have some sort of figure of BOTH sexes to look up to not necessarily a parent though.

Also, Terry Crews has proven countless times he is progressive and is for the betterment of society. Before u all go canceling him pls try to educate him and hear him out. Cancelling culture has hurt ALL social movements more than it has helped it.

15 minutes ago, witchcocktor said:

But he is not saying this? He is saying a child needs a maternal figure who gives motherly love, and a paternal figure who gives paternal love. He talks nothing about a child needing men and women to look up to. If that's what his point was, there would be no issue, and I don't think he'd even say anything regarding this issue out loud to begin with because obviously every child is going to have male and female figures present in their life.

 

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