Morphine Prince 109,937 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Some leftists people have such a blind eye on socialist dictatorship. It’s not only in the US but many european leftist parties even support Maduro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,858 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Melech said: Some leftists people have such a blind eye on socialist dictatorship. It’s not only in the US but many european leftist parties even support Maduro Not jumping on the interventionist bandwagon does NOT equal support. And can say what you want about Venezuela’s democracy... but last I heard, Maduro was democratically elected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,989 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 That's because he will be Maduro himself (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ⁱᵐ'ᵐᵃ ʰⁱᵗ ᵈᵉᶠʳᵒˢᵗ ᵒⁿ ʸᵃ, ˡᵉᵗ'ˢ ᵍᵉᵗ ⁱᵗ ᵇˡᵃᶻⁱⁿᵍ﹗ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Postboy said: Not jumping on the interventionist bandwagon does NOT equal support. Calling Maduro a dictator does NOT equal invervention. anyway, the Venezuelans I know even support an intervention Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,937 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Postboy said: Not jumping on the interventionist bandwagon does NOT equal support. And can say what you want about Venezuela’s democracy... but last I heard, Maduro was democratically elected. Umm... those elections were clearly fraudulent. He is a fraud. His people are starving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matangi 3,050 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 This was taken massively out of context with the rest of his answer. He stated that, though there is a major humanitarian crisis occurring, the United States has a history of intervening in South American (and Middle Eastern, and Asian, and on and on etc.) nations and creating an even larger humanitarian crisis by imposing a non-democratic leader themselves. He has called for aid for Venezuela but believes the people of that nation must create their own political fate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,938 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Yikes. He's not wrong, but the guy IS a dictator. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,937 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matangi said: This was taken massively out of context with the rest of his answer. He stated that, though there is a major humanitarian crisis occurring, the United States has a history of intervening in South American (and Middle Eastern, and Asian, and on and on etc.) nations and creating an even larger humanitarian crisis by imposing a non-democratic leader themselves. He has called for aid for Venezuela but believes the people of that nation must create their own political fate. Calling him a dictator is not the same as military intervention. There is no excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,858 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Melech said: Calling Maduro a dictator does NOT equal invervention. anyway, the Venezuelans I know even support an intervention The point of forcing Sanders to call him a dictator is to reinforce the idea of an intervention. If Venezuelans want to change their leader, they or the region can do it themselves. I, and many other people, have had enough of the US having unlimited amount of money to be the world police, but never enough money for domestic affairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, Melech said: Some leftists people have such a blind eye on socialist dictatorship. It’s not only in the US but many european leftist parties even support Maduro Sadly, yes. (Fidel Castro, Che Guevara etc. too...) That really sucks ... What they don't see is that totalitarian and authoritarian systems are essentially right-wing ideologies and completly are the opposite of what left-wing and socialism in the marxistic or anarchistic sense were intended to be regarding freedom, revolution, pacifism, democracy and fight against oppression and so on ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,858 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Umm... those elections were clearly fraudulent. He is a fraud. His people are starving. That’s why I said... the legitimacy of Venezuela’s democracy is not the damn point. It’s time the region stand up for itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,937 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Postboy said: That’s why I said... the legitimacy of Venezuela’s democracy is not the damn point. It’s time the region stand up for itself. Which they are doing. You can still call a dictator a dictator. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matangi 3,050 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Calling him a dictator is not the same as military intervention. There is no excuse. Wait so you really think Bernie is just too morally inadequate to understand what Maduro is? Obviously labeling him a dictator is not about truth or untruth, its about reinforcing the idea of a military intervention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,937 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Matangi said: Wait so you really think Bernie is just too morally inadequate to understand what Maduro is? Obviously labeling him a dictator is not about truth or untruth, its about reinforcing the idea of a military intervention. You do realize you can acknowledge a dictator and then explain why international intervention is not the answer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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