guyzplzstaph 172 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I like both song and a video, but please tell me I'm not trippin' - they changed the audio? Yesterday there was a kind of siren to the rythm when Katy attacks zedd, now it's gone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsomniaMonster69 3,471 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Is this videoa metaphor for witness era? Zedd plays the fans and Katy is witness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 The song is okay, not bad to listen to and I like how the video starts, she has some awesome looks but there are also some cringe moments with her and Zedd not able to act it out properly Anyways, I think this is a nice overall thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMENiCURE 9,381 Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 this flopped welp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,866 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Can't stop watching this, I'm just so entranced by it and notice all the little things. But is it really flopping? Didn't expect that. I also thought the video would get a whole lot more interest. Yes, it's trending right now but it only has 5.9 million views and 480k likes despite being out for just over a day. That's not a lot when you consider how long ago Katy and Zedd last released music videos and this collab and the type of video it is should be getting a whole lot more attention. I don't get how Katy has over 32 million subscribers and yet less than a quarter of them have watched this video so far and even less have liked it. It only further supports my theory that millions of her subscribers are fake. She was also gaining several million during Witness, despite the singles, album and tour flopping so badly. How can she be gaining interest enough from people to subscribe and yet they're not acting on that interest? 8 hours ago, DreamingMonster said: Is this videoa metaphor for witness era? Zedd plays the fans and Katy is witness? If that's the case, that's even sadder! I can't help but feel like Katy's caught in limbo right now and doesn't really know what to do now that the GP and even her own fans have gone cold on her. Even when she makes something generic, it's not working. I genuinely feel for her. She's not at Xtina levels yet but she's getting there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipthistea 21,099 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Zedd's sound has really changed throughtout these years. I'm not into his latest songs honestly. The song is meh, kinda bland. Nice video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaney 5,515 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 @4:13 looks almost exactly like Gaga! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,107 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 song is a proper groove, love it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,866 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 23 hours ago, NIGHTCRAWLER said: would someone explain me the MV ? I'm not sure I've a 100% understood it I could be mistaken about the exact reasoning behind the experiment, but as I understand it, it looks like Zedd's character is supposed to be taking part in a 1 year trial of living with a robot that uses AI technology to see how close they resemble actual humans. Katy is designed to live with him as a spouse who loves him from the beginning and is designed to hug him, laugh at his jokes, spend time with him, and provide sex, basically being an ideal woman. This is to see if this is just as good or better than going to all the bother of forming a human bond with an imperfect woman who will only give you problems. If it works out, this could result in huge money-making opportunities for this technology company. But as we discover, Katy starts to feel emotion through spending time with him, even if she can't physically show it (through crying, in this case) because she's made to have no more than 2 expressions, neutral and happy, meaning she can't express the full range but maybe wants to feel more. But Zedd isn't enjoying this experience with her robot, clearly finding it creepy and intrusive as she follows him constantly, has limited personality and it's eerie to lie beside her at night. So, when she wakes up to discover he isn't sleeping with her like her brain is programmed to believe he's supposed to do, she thinks something must be wrong and she must find where he is. When she sees him sleeping away from her, she perhaps think that showing him affection through a hug will bring him round to her but she seems to feel the emotion so strongly that her electrics can't cope and she begins to malfunction, destroying the building through her electrically-powered gaze and squeezing him so tight that he's nearly crushed. She's dragged away to be re-programmed and when she looks up, she sees Zedd is talking to the woman in charge, who's asking him if he felt any love for her in this experience. When he says no, she's literally heartbroken that her love is unreciprocated, causing her entire technology system to fail. She's beyond repair now so is deemed unfit to be used again, so must be deactivated. Just before she "dies," she sees there's a whole production line of robots who look exactly like her that are all ready to be her replacement and this moment shocks her that she is that disposible and then she dies. The whole thing is clearly a commentary of modern sex robots, which are a thing now and how ethical the process is. Is it sexist to make an "ideal" woman who never complains and provides you with nothing but sex and tells you how amazing you are? And what if robots can genuinely start to feel emotion through spending time with humans and can genuinely grow to love them? If they get harmed or their electrics wear out and have to be replaced, is it like killing an actual person? As sex robots are becoming more common, it's natural to be wary of the complications of relying on technology to replace human communication and affection and if it's going to result in a society that's worse off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaXXXon 1,538 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 16 hours ago, EmperorExca said: Notice the views of the flop singles of Bon Appetit and Swish Swish on YT. Also note the peak of #4 of CTTR and then free fall afterwards. KP5 leadwill be a repeat at worst. Katy has always had the US GP attention. Keeping it is the issue. Katy has never been an album seller. Witness actually didnt do that bad, I believe it grossed 1mil per show. Pretty bad for superstar status but pretty good when compared to any artist that isn't mainstream. I'm confident KP5 lead and KP6 lead will peak top 10. If PI can peak at #15 after the GP had almost totally abandoned gaga Katy can score another top 10 considering she never entirely lost the GP's interest. Which is also why 365 will be a top 40 hit and also score substantial views. But yeah I disagree with your point about the GP not being here for Katy, if you flop you flop, but katy does not have 500 mil videos on flop singles because of her (relatively small) fanbase. TBH I don't think any established artist like Katy or Gaga can have a lead single that doesn't atleast peak well until they're atleast in their 40s. YouTube views aren't a good indicator for commercial success. Swish Swish had 100 million views and many of them were bought/purchased. You didn't notice that? How about the fact that it's practically the ONLY video in the world that did 100 million in no time but failed to crack the Spotify chart or enter the Top 10 on f_cking iTunes? Why? Because most of those views came from african countries because they were BOTS. Another clear indicator of this is that Swish Swish did 100 million views yet a very small fraction of it came from the US considering it didn't do sh!t for her on the Hot 100. Normally when you do 100 million views in a short time 60-70 percent come from the US, yet in Katy's not even 20 percent came from the US which is VERY telling aka. the views weren't real views but purchased. The ONLY reason Katy's CTTR went top 10 in the US was because she had a Spotify deal (something like a radio deal where they add your song to a bunch of playlists and you get emails about the song's arrival constantly in the first week). The moment the Spotify deal was over, the song tumbled down the charts, which is why it only spent TWO weeks in the top 10. You have to do your research on the Witness era. The album hasn't even crossed 500k WORLDWIDE yet. Heck, it hasn't even cracked 1 million UNITS worldwide more than a year after release. It was a big flop. And her tour flopped as well - it's all in the numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,866 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Bae said: @4:13 looks almost exactly like Gaga! Exactly what I thought! It's so guilty to admit it, but that scene reminded me so much of the hospital bed scene in DWUW - Gaga also had blonde bobbed hair and was wearing a white sheet like a dress on an operating table, kinda like it is right here. That was the first thing that came into my mind when I saw this. I can't be the only one who's thinking this! 10 minutes ago, jaXXXon said: YouTube views aren't a good indicator for commercial success. Swish Swish had 100 million views and many of them were bought/purchased. You didn't notice that? How about the fact that it's practically the ONLY video in the world that did 100 million in no time but failed to crack the Spotify chart or enter the Top 10 on f_cking iTunes? Why? Because most of those views came from african countries because they were BOTS. Another clear indicator of this is that Swish Swish did 100 million views yet a very small fraction of it came from the US considering it didn't do sh!t for her on the Hot 100. Normally when you do 100 million views in a short time 60-70 percent come from the US, yet in Katy's not even 20 percent came from the US which is VERY telling aka. the views weren't real views but purchased. That's a very good point. I've always found it weird how any song that she's released post-Dark Horse (with the exception of CTTR) has been an international chart flop, yet still does amazingly well with views and likes. When an artist's single flops, there's very little interest when it comes to views and likes, that's kinda the whole point of a song not capturing the public's interest. It was so bizarre to see Bon Appetit and Swish Swish get hundreds of millions of views despite both songs being unknown to most of the public and a flop on the charts. Even if it was just the fans watching repeatedly, if they were enjoying them so much, why weren't they buying the singles (or even the remixes) and/or the album? And like I said before, it's the same story with her subscribers - she gained several million during the Witness era and is still getting over 100k a week even though she's been releasing nothing and been off the radar. Makes you wonder if she's gained millions of people being interested, why aren't they actually supporting her? When Gaga wasn't promoting anything and didn't have a hit, she'd be lucky if she hit 10k subscribers a week and when she didn't have a hit, she'd struggle to hit 100 million views and scarcely hit 1 million likes (see how long it took PI to get somewhere and MR only went up in views and likes once it took off post-SB). And getting views and likes during ARTPOP was like pulling teeth. But Katy weirdly seems to get YouTube success despite a flop era which is so bizarre. If she is getting fake views, likes and subscribers, I really hope it's not her allowing this and it's her label that have made the decision. I wouldn't be happy if I were an artist knowing that the bulk of my online success was artificial so I wouldn't know how much people actually liked my work or how many fans I had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMENiCURE 9,381 Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 katy has been not big in these countries with the big markets like us, uk, aus and all lately but she’s rather huge in the smaller markets like france and all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectExca 636 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 51 minutes ago, jaXXXon said: YouTube views aren't a good indicator for commercial success. Swish Swish had 100 million views and many of them were bought/purchased. You didn't notice that? How about the fact that it's practically the ONLY video in the world that did 100 million in no time but failed to crack the Spotify chart or enter the Top 10 on f_cking iTunes? Why? Because most of those views came from african countries because they were BOTS. Another clear indicator of this is that Swish Swish did 100 million views yet a very small fraction of it came from the US considering it didn't do sh!t for her on the Hot 100. Normally when you do 100 million views in a short time 60-70 percent come from the US, yet in Katy's not even 20 percent came from the US which is VERY telling aka. the views weren't real views but purchased. The ONLY reason Katy's CTTR went top 10 in the US was because she had a Spotify deal (something like a radio deal where they add your song to a bunch of playlists and you get emails about the song's arrival constantly in the first week). The moment the Spotify deal was over, the song tumbled down the charts, which is why it only spent TWO weeks in the top 10. You have to do your research on the Witness era. The album hasn't even crossed 500k WORLDWIDE yet. Heck, it hasn't even cracked 1 million UNITS worldwide more than a year after release. It was a big flop. And her tour flopped as well - it's all in the numbers. Well there is no denying Witness and its tour flopped by her standards, and I never denied that I said her single will peak top 10. That's how lead singles work for established artists like Katy. PI should not have even peaked at #15. Its not a #15 single. But it's a lead single from a household-name artist who hasn't released a solo album in 3 years. So yeah its gonna chart.No. Those views were not bots. Katy has a huge subscriber count and a great reputation on YT. You could never convince me Katy has huge amounts views on all her videos are from bots. Swish Swish flopped because no one bought it/streamed it because it isn't a good single. But it had an interesting video. All of Katy's videos are interesting, you don't think YT can detect bots? They do all the time and remove the views. I don't know an artist on earth that doesn't/wouldn't get their singles put on spotify playlists, and I don't get how using them makes the success (even if temporary) inorganic. Deal or not, if it doesnt get streams or sales, it wouldn't peak at #4. The only way to inorganically make a single successful is through radio deals. You can have tour song on every playlist on spotify. If no one listens to it for longer than the 10 second intro it flops. cttr tumbled because it was frontloaded and well, not a good single lol. People stopped listening and buying. But it went #4 because it's a Katy song. The sun will rise each day. Will you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaXXXon 1,538 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 47 minutes ago, EmperorExca said: Well there is no denying Witness and its tour flopped by her standards, and I never denied that I said her single will peak top 10. That's how lead singles work for established artists like Katy. PI should not have even peaked at #15. Its not a #15 single. But it's a lead single from a household-name artist who hasn't released a solo album in 3 years. So yeah its gonna chart.No. Those views were not bots. Katy has a huge subscriber count and a great reputation on YT. You could never convince me Katy has huge amounts views on all her videos are from bots. Swish Swish flopped because no one bought it/streamed it because it isn't a good single. But it had an interesting video. All of Katy's videos are interesting, you don't think YT can detect bots? They do all the time and remove the views. I don't know an artist on earth that doesn't/wouldn't get their singles put on spotify playlists, and I don't get how using them makes the success (even if temporary) inorganic. Deal or not, if it doesnt get streams or sales, it wouldn't peak at #4. The only way to inorganically make a single successful is through radio deals. You can have tour song on every playlist on spotify. If no one listens to it for longer than the 10 second intro it flops. cttr tumbled because it was frontloaded and well, not a good single lol. People stopped listening and buying. But it went #4 because it's a Katy song. You're wrong about YouTube detecting views like that - they do not actually, which is why many online services keep doing business because YouTube doesn't really bother detecting. Swish Swish's views would've NORMALLY translated to sales and streams but they did not because a lot of it weren't actual people. C'mon, it's already been pointed out how she gets 100k subscribers every week - probably more than Rihanna, Beyoncé, Gaga, Adele etc. WHEN SHE'S NOT RELEASING. How the hell is that possible? Because of sites like these: https://www.buyyoutubviews.com/ C'mon man. And regarding that Spotify deal - Drake was literally the face of playlists that felt outside of his genre when he released his last album and it gave him a HUGE number of streams because of that. Spotify works like radio. "It's a Katy single"? Rise flopped before CTTR came out. All the Witness singles flopped and so did her recent three songs she put out. Katy was never truly on Rihanna's, Beyoncé's, Adele's or Gaga's level of stardom, her fanbase isn't anywhere near their fanbases and she relies heavily on the GP and the GP hasn't been here for her since, ironically, her Super Bowl in 2015. She's been flopping ever since and her last real hit was in early 2014. That's five years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
techhausmonster 175 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I listened to the song without watching the video when it first came out and I didn't really like it. After the video it's my new favorite song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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