Game Of Thrones S8 | Finale

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I haven't watch any season but I'm hearing a lot of people say that s8 is horrible? is this true? 

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1 minute ago, Sepsami said:

I haven't watch any season but I'm hearing a lot of people say that s8 is horrible? is this true? 

There are a lot of opinions. Its true that season 8 was rated much lower by critics and the public. 

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2 minutes ago, Florin said:

There are a lot of opinions. Its true that season 8 was rated much lower by critics and the public. 

Thanks

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1 hour ago, Florin said:

 

And apparently in the books, he makes it very clear that he doesnt care about what happened with Hodor, Theon or other humans that died or sacrificed for him. 

Don't bring the books here, because nothing has happened to Hodor yet. He has just met the original Three-Eyed Crow and he is teaching Bran (and that is where the story ends for now, with him seeing a lot of things from the past). Nothing in Bran's behaviour has indicated that he doesn't care about Hodor.

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4 hours ago, AlexanderMagno said:

Don't bring the books here, because nothing has happened to Hodor yet. He has just met the original Three-Eyed Crow and he is teaching Bran (and that is where the story ends for now, with him seeing a lot of things from the past). Nothing in Bran's behaviour has indicated that he doesn't care about Hodor.

Ok. I should have talk only about the show, which actually had multiple scenes in season 7 where he acts and even says that he doesnt care about the close ones or about the people that died for him. 

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I didn't have an issue with Bran ending up ruling either -- it actually fit the established rules of the show (and book to an extent) of the two types that pretty much were always at high risk of losing: those who played the game poorly or were politically naive (Ned, Robb, Jon, Stannis) and those who desired power beyond what they'd naturally inherited or earned (Dany, Lannisters/Tyrells, Renly, Littlefinger). Bran was an exception to all of the typical shortcomings of man having the abilities of the raven and yet would still be able to get into the position with relative ease on account of his noble birth. 

 

I wish D&D would've stepped aside and allowed production to continue for two more seasons as both HBO and GRRM wished so it could've developed in a way that made more sense than him essentially being appointed king by a prisoner. It would've been interesting to see Dany rule Westeros for a time with her power being challenged by a number of things: people's fear of her, Sansa actively plotting against her, Jon's true identity still haunting her, the Iron Bank becoming an issue after Cersei plunged the crown back into massive debt. There was a perfect storm of elements to work with that could've contributed to the darkening of her character. 

 

Also with Arya, given that they turned her into an explorer, they could've poached wasted elements from Euron's book storyline and have her to be the one to find the dragon binding horn after sailing West around the world and presumably hitting Asshai, Qarth, the ruins of Valyria and so on. Ugh...they really could've done so much.

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20 hours ago, Sky Juil said:

There is an interview of an HBO exec today, and he said that there will be no sequels with these characters. So, no Arya the explorer series. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/22/entertainment/game-of-thrones-sequel-trnd/index.html

 

That's good news. 

Don't want them to butcher these characters anymore than they already have. 

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23 hours ago, Florin said:

Watch the scene. There are ravens in the Dany going mad scene. He was there watching it and didnt care. He was also the one that started the"Jon is the king" narative that broke Jon and Dany relantionship and Dany herself. Who won from this? Clearly not Jon, cause he isnt the king.

And apparently in the books, he makes it very clear that he doesnt care about what happened with Hodor, Theon or other humans that died or sacrificed for him. 

I understand that you dont care about subtle things, but this fanbase is very diverse. You may buy that Bran is sleeping when the biggest genocide in the show happens. For me and others, that seems unlikely and the show should have something to say about this.

And even if he was sleeping, you just named another reason why it shouldnt be king. He is the Three Eyed Raven. Sleeping during a war battle where his brother and sister can die is a choice for someone like him.

Which scene are you referring to exactly? He was not there watching Daenerys going mad. He was not present in that episode.   I'm so confused as to what you're using to support your argument here.

He didn't start the 'Jon is King' narrative to win the throne for himself, though. That's not how I interpreted Bran's actions. Bran (and Sam, I might add) are the 2 characters that are concerned with reality and what is true. That is what drove both of them to reveal to Jon his true lineage. What Jon did after he found out his truth was his choice. 

I don't like your conclusion that I don't care for subtlety. I've read the books and have watched the show, rewatched and then some. Re: Bran sleeping.. I was being sarcastic / wasn't being serious. I was mocking this fanbase's ridiculous reaction to Bran being chosen to rule. 

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I just can't get over how the Starks all got a happy ending when they ( mainly Sansa) are the whole reason Dany snapped. They did this to her by to give her the respect she deserves after using all of her resources to save them. Sansa wouldn't have even gotten her precious Northern Independence if it weren't for Dany because they all would've been dead. Yes Arya killed the Night King, but lets face it that wouldn't have happened if they didn't have Dany's army, Dragon glass and Dragons to defend Winterhell the best they could. Yet after all this they had the audacity to say " we don't trust her" BEFORE she even did anything wrong. And then Sansa decides to tell Tyrion about Jon, knowing that it'll destroy Dany, the woman who saved all of your lives and you can't even mutter and " thank you towards". Have fun starving and managing Winterhell's food supply without help from Highgarden. 

 

Edit: Also I don't understand how Sansa can forgive Theon and Jaime, people who have physically done things in her lifetime that tore her family apart, yet she distrusts Dany for something her dead family did before Sansa was even born? and then she saved your ass? She should be the one you're on your knees thanking  

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2 hours ago, MelbHawker said:

Which scene are you referring to exactly? He was not there watching Daenerys going mad. He was not present in that episode.   I'm so confused as to what you're using to support your argument here.

He didn't start the 'Jon is King' narrative to win the throne for himself, though. That's not how I interpreted Bran's actions. Bran (and Sam, I might add) are the 2 characters that are concerned with reality and what is true. That is what drove both of them to reveal to Jon his true lineage. What Jon did after he found out his truth was his choice. 

I don't like your conclusion that I don't care for subtlety. I've read the books and have watched the show, rewatched and then some. Re: Bran sleeping.. I was being sarcastic / wasn't being serious. I was mocking this fanbase's ridiculous reaction to Bran being chosen to rule. 

Well. If you were joking about Bran sleeping during the genocide, what are we talking about? Bran, The Three Eyed Raven was there and just watched it. 

I dont think that people are so upset about Bran geting to be king. Like a lot of other problems of season 8, a large group of people cant accept it in the context of the show.  Like people cant buy that the other 6 kingdoms would not choose independence after Sansa got it for the North. Details are very important in this show. 

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2 hours ago, Smcgibben said:

I just can't get over how the Starks all got a happy ending when they ( mainly Sansa) are the whole reason Dany snapped. They did this to her by to give her the respect she deserves after using all of her resources to save them. Sansa wouldn't have even gotten her precious Northern Independence if it weren't for Dany because they all would've been dead. Yes Arya killed the Night King, but lets face it that wouldn't have happened if they didn't have Dany's army, Dragon glass and Dragons to defend Winterhell the best they could. Yet after all this they had the audacity to say " we don't trust her" BEFORE she even did anything wrong. And then Sansa decides to tell Tyrion about Jon, knowing that it'll destroy Dany, the woman who saved all of your lives and you can't even mutter and " thank you towards". Have fun starving and managing Winterhell's food supply without help from Highgarden. 

 

Edit: Also I don't understand how Sansa can forgive Theon and Jaime, people who have physically done things in her lifetime that tore her family apart, yet she distrusts Dany for something her dead family did before Sansa was even born? and then she saved your ass? She should be the one you're on your knees thanking  

I assume in the books Dany is already showing signs of madness giving red flags everywhere, that's why Sansa is not trusting Dany. But D&D did really bad just tried to surprise everyone with a plot-twist no one could see coming instead of building up to it properly like GRRM would have done.

Edit: I know there are signs of Dany becoming mad from the very beginning but foreshadowing a twist that will frustrate your audience is not good writing.