Nino 12 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, ReginaGeorge said: lol You literally need to chill. Go out, have some fun, celebrate new year.... Says the person who butted into a discussion 6 pages into a thread about attacking lady gaga's sister to turn it personal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, Nino said: I didn't intend that to come out as especially mean-spirited. To make it to the point Natali has, you'd have to study fashion history, design principles, as well as ACTUALLY how to create garments, and probably a bunch of other **** I don't know I didn't actually go to Parson's myself I just know the school's reputation. She didn't take a sewing class. She went to a specialized DESIGN school. Like a whole, several-year curriculum. That's like saying you went to Medical School and can't grasp the art of sewing a wound shut. I'm sorry that Project Runway taught you that fashion designers conceptualize entire collections in a week and construct them all by themselves in a few days out of soda cans and scraps of fabric they bought before they finished figuring out what they needed to sew. Like I said before, it's pointless to have a conversation with a person who only throws out insults. Happy New Year.  "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem 17,800 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 23 hours ago, Nino said: Let's all not forget that Natali went to school for fashion and 99.99% of you did not. Wow, this makes the situation even worse. Imagine graduating fashion design and still being that awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyVersace 9,029 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Miracle said: This wasn't designed by Natali, unless they ripped off a guy I follow on Instagram which was rumoured to do customes for Enigma. He does have great and intricate pieces, mostly in the form of giant gowns and capes that wouldn't allow Gaga to dance, and the neon act is by far the most energy filled act Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyVersace 9,029 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 51 minutes ago, Nino said: 99% of fashion isn't really creative. It's a technical skill. You're embarrassing yourself. You clearly know nothing about this industry other than the image it projects to the public. What? That is...so not true... Every fashion house/designer/brand is different, but creativity is at the core of fashion. Period. If you think that fashion isn't creative, then YOU, my friend, no nothing about the industry. You don't consider Karl Lagerfeld literally dreaming of his designs and sketching the next day creative? Or any of the couture houses making literal works of art, sewn together by hand? Yes, technical skill is essential, but so is creative direction. Most of the "designers" we think of aren't actually making the clothing. They conceptualize, sketch, and it's executed by the atelier. Your argument with Natali being technically skilled and not creative is just plain ignorant. Yes, school taught her technique, but sis she's graduated. Now she has the freedom to create as she pleases, in a different scenario than any other designer. While the clothes might be questionable, there was still a creative process involved in their creation, not just ****ing sewing **** together. Fashion is the coming together of creative concept, and technical process. Your argument is simply invalid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, JohnnyVersace said: What? That is...so not true... Every fashion house/designer/brand is different, but creativity is at the core of fashion. Period. If you think that fashion isn't creative, then YOU, my friend, no nothing about the industry. You don't consider Karl Lagerfeld literally dreaming of his designs and sketching the next day creative? Or any of the couture houses making literal works of art, sewn together by hand? Yes, technical skill is essential, but so is creative direction. Most of the "designers" we think of aren't actually making the clothing. They conceptualize, sketch, and it's executed by the atelier. Your argument with Natali being technically skilled and not creative is just plain ignorant. Yes, school taught her technique, but sis she's graduated. Now she has the freedom to create as she pleases, in a different scenario than any other designer. While the clothes might be questionable, there was still a creative process involved in their creation, not just ****ing sewing **** together. Fashion is the coming together of creative concept, and technical process. Your argument is simply invalid. Again somebody eating the PR version of the fashion industry. There's a documented history of Karl Lagerfeld stealing designs from wherever he wants and just generally being skeevy. His work is still iconic tho. Also in the case of an American designers like Natali Germanotta you can just say studio. It's just French for studio. Like the fashion police aren't going to gun you down for not saying atelier. This thread however, wasn't about Karl Lagerfeld or the rapidly dying haute couture industry, it was about Natali Germanotta, who is known to design and create garments as she isn't ****ing donatella versace and doesn't own an established atelier to create entire collections for her. This is the girl who 2014 put a cape and bow on a plain pink satin cocktail dress and it was glorious. Great attempt at flexing how many fashion marketing films you've seen though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzGa 14,621 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I've never seen anything she has designed that has been worn by anyone other than Gaga. So, I am going to say that no, she is not a Great Fashion Designer. I'd more call her a costumer who is part of the Haus. My old cat is a tough man, but i cant deny the way he bites my hand and he stabs me, he grabs me by my heart <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsbrenda 2,983 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Do we really need this thread? It’s just mean tbh. Fashion like art art is subjective to the wearer. It doesn’t matter what your opinion is on it, does it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyVersace 9,029 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 19 hours ago, Nino said: Again somebody eating the PR version of the fashion industry. There's a documented history of Karl Lagerfeld stealing designs from wherever he wants and just generally being skeevy. His work is still iconic tho. Also in the case of an American designers like Natali Germanotta you can just say studio. It's just French for studio. Like the fashion police aren't going to gun you down for not saying atelier. This thread however, wasn't about Karl Lagerfeld or the rapidly dying haute couture industry, it was about Natali Germanotta, who is known to design and create garments as she isn't ****ing donatella versace and doesn't own an established atelier to create entire collections for her. This is the girl who 2014 put a cape and bow on a plain pink satin cocktail dress and it was glorious. Great attempt at flexing how many fashion marketing films you've seen though. Yes, few houses have not been accused of stealing designs. Just take a peek at Diet Prada. That doesn’t change the fact that his process is creative. You think he stole 89 frumpy tweed looks from someone else? Sis... I’m not sure exactly what you’re popping off about in here tho. You think fashion isn’t creative but Natali Germanotta is? Confused. Donatella is creative in her own right, as is Karl, so to discredit her just because she’s established and has the means for larger, more eleaborate collections is pretty ridiculous. Also, I’ve worked in many facets of the fashion industry for five years now. Magazines (heard of Vogue?), styling, production, etc. I don’t know what the **** you do, but don’t belittle other people when you have no idea what goes on in their life. For all we know, you’re still on your parents couch, basing your fashion knowledge and negative outlook on The Devil Wears Prada and reruns of the Rachel Zoe Project. (oh and Happy New Year hope it’s a positive joyous one for ya ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle 14,068 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 19 hours ago, Nino said: Again somebody eating the PR version of the fashion industry. There's a documented history of Karl Lagerfeld stealing designs from wherever he wants and just generally being skeevy. His work is still iconic tho. Also in the case of an American designers like Natali Germanotta you can just say studio. It's just French for studio. Like the fashion police aren't going to gun you down for not saying atelier. This thread however, wasn't about Karl Lagerfeld or the rapidly dying haute couture industry, it was about Natali Germanotta, who is known to design and create garments as she isn't ****ing donatella versace and doesn't own an established atelier to create entire collections for her. This is the girl who 2014 put a cape and bow on a plain pink satin cocktail dress and it was glorious. Great attempt at flexing how many fashion marketing films you've seen though. Sometimes you gotta talk to Jesus for advice before saying this delusional stuff. It was nice. Glorious? And yes, you can study an entire career, get the grade and still be mediocre and not make an impact. How many people graduate from Parsons ever? How many of them get to create an impact? Having the money to enter a super prestigious design school does not mean you're superior to others who didn't go. It means you have a huge set of skills others don't. And I'm not saying Natali is mediocre (We haven't really seen most of her stuff) but the main point of concerts costumes are to look good, and the only piece she made for this tour is not looking spectacular. I couldn't give a damn about how perfect the construction is. Gaga's worn sketchy looks that've made an impact + looked fabulous. I loved Natali's jacket for the JWT. Do I have to praise Natali's tired corset-like leotard just because she studied at Parsons for three years? lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 34 minutes ago, JohnnyVersace said: Yes, few houses have not been accused of stealing designs. Just take a peek at Diet Prada. That doesn’t change the fact that his process is creative. You think he stole 89 frumpy tweed looks from someone else? Sis... I’m not sure exactly what you’re popping off about in here tho. You think fashion isn’t creative but Natali Germanotta is? Confused. Donatella is creative in her own right, as is Karl, so to discredit her just because she’s established and has the means for larger, more eleaborate collections is pretty ridiculous. Also, I’ve worked in many facets of the fashion industry for five years now. Magazines (heard of Vogue?), styling, production, etc. I don’t know what the **** you do, but don’t belittle other people when you have no idea what goes on in their life. For all we know, you’re still on your parents couch, basing your fashion knowledge and negative outlook on The Devil Wears Prada and reruns of the Rachel Zoe Project. (oh and Happy New Year hope it’s a positive joyous one for ya ) I died a little. Also accusing somebody of watching the Rachel Zoe Project is slander. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGagaxPop 0 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 9:04 PM, JohnnyVersace said: No. can we delete this photo forever?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Not a fan, never been a fan, never will be a fan... it really just comes down to this, are the looks good, & they aren’t. But thats just my opinion. Not everyone is going to like the same things nor is it their responsibility to give “constructive criticism” she went to school for that exact reason. We also don’t have to have a fashion education in order to give our opinions so please can everyone just calm down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
techhausmonster 175 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I don't think her outfits are bad, I just don't think they fit well with Gaga's "aesthetic" if you will. For example, Florence Welch wearing very droopy dresses and its amazing because it fits with her style and music, but I wouldn't expect an artist like Demi Lovato to wear something like that, because it doesnt fit her style. Idk, I may be out of the water here but I'm used to seeing Gaga in either high fashion that screams GAGA or something very simple like the last outfit of Enigma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwerk 7,262 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 9:22 PM, LaLa said: I liked this coat This is the first look that came to my mind and I love this jacket so much. Her use of leather, deconstruction, tearing leather up like it's fabric reminds me a bit of Ronald van der Kemps designs. I hope she continues to develop her craft beyond working with her sister. Her stage outfits are not my favourite looks for Gaga, but I love the sentiment and all the personal touches that went into the Joanne coat and hat so much. Natali can sure cook up a cool coat! https://www.instagram.com/p/BdpfYKMhR0z/ According to Gaga I'm a ****ing rad bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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