Swallow 12,052 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Lazz Monster said: Yh ok, ur right about spotify sorry But it doesn't mean I'm wrong though, cuz Shallow debuted at #28 but it got to #5 based on sales and streaming. Without me debuted in the top 10 of itunes, and it quickly left, it only got back and stabilized after stadios started picking it up. Look, I'm not saying WM isn't a hit, it totally is, what I meant is, without radios it wouldn't grow organically, it would be over quite sooner, just like shallow was, got it? If radios had picked up on Shallow, Shallow would be a organic hit too, what I'm upset about is how much power radios still have in determining what is and what isn't a hit Radio has been an important factor since the 50s when Hot 100 started tho More than half of Mariah's #1s are radio-driven. I know what are you trying to say but you picked a wrong example. Without Me is one of the most organical singles in the past few years. Es solo una paja entre colegas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doncho 27,241 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, ArtGagaPop said: Hopefully we will celebratenew years eve 2019 with shallow hiting 1 billion views, lets make this a new gaga tradition Excited for 3041 then Being a G.U.Y. stan is hard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo 2,082 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gypsy Life said: UK Mids: 21 (+54) Shallow 4 (+4) A Star Is Born I know the Christmas songs falling has an effect, but that’s a huge boost for Shallow. It fell to 40s (?) once the acr rule came in. It’d deff be top 10 without it now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Monster 19,353 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Swallow said: Radio has been an important factor since the 50s when Hot 100 started tho I know that, and that's exactly my point, it shouldn't be this important. 3 minutes ago, Swallow said: Without Me is one of the most organical singles in the past few years. And can you say for sure it's not because of radio? cuz i just checked, it always had good spotify numbers but it also had great radio updates since its release. so it didn't have time for the newness to fade, when it did fade, great radio numbers were supporting it. We're far from the Shallow now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Monster 19,353 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 anyway, at least Denmark has taste: Spotify: 4 (+1) Shallow (new peak) 5 (-1) Without me We're far from the Shallow now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swallow 12,052 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lazz Monster said: I know that, and that's exactly my point, it shouldn't be this important. And can you say for sure it's not because of radio? cuz i just checked, it always had good spotify numbers but it also had great radio updates since its release. so it didn't have time for the newness to fade, when it did fade, great radio numbers were supporting it. it's a brand new (lead?) single from Halsey who had a huge radio hit already this year - Bad At Love (btw you should've used that as an example instead ) so it's unrealistic to think radio wouldn't jump on it right away. The problem with Shallow is the fact that it's not suited for 2018 pop radio. Million Reasons had the same problem last year, but the radio was forced to play it after the Superbowl, so let's hope the same happens after the Oscars. Es solo una paja entre colegas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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