Head Empty 22,577 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bear said: IMO If someone tells you they are straight then you should respect that, whether you even believe it or not shouldn't even come into the equation. He has explained and been very honest about his feelings, and the fact that he feels like has to change the way he acts just so people will leave him alone is a really crap thing. I don't know why people would want to continue to knowingly make someone feel pressure like that. Yea, in an ideal scenario he would be confident enough to not let it affect him and just be himself. But don't forget he's only 20 years old and he gets literally thousands of comments like this daily that label him as something he doesn't feel he is- of course it's going to cause self doubts and insecurities I don't think thats the same as him having negative views of being gay. Thank you for so eloquently saying what I've been trying to formulate over the past five-or-so comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaOhhLaLa 2,737 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Honestly.. Some of your comments are gross... Like honestly being told your something that ur not hurts you... You start to believe you are even if your not... I don't care if he is a attractive rich white man... He is a human so start treating him like one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, geopang said: Some struggles are bigger than others. He’s white, famous, rich, attractive, etc. He already has it better than the majority of the world. It’s very appropriate to compare struggles, because he doesn’t realize the trauma that gay people have actually been through. No one is saying he can’t have insecurities. But at this point he can just deny it and move on. If he was secure about himself being heterosexual, he wouldn’t even react the way he’s reacting. RIght? Gaga has had so many worse accusations, Miley had the entire world saying nasty things about her and how she looked during the Bangerz era, people are still saying that Jay cheats on Queen B etc. They moved on, like anyone else that values their peace of mind would. You can't stop people from talking about you, whether it's for good reasons or bad reasons, but if you ignore it enough, they move on too eventually. 1 minute ago, ReginaGeorge said: Is that something you discuss on GGD discord chat? Sad. Thank you for saying what you actually mean about us. Still not on topic and still not giving any valid arguments. Again, sad. Also thank you for following our ignorant replies, I don’t even know who you are. I have no idea what you're talking about there, 2. Us? wat. 3. Where did I call your replies "ignorant"? As I recall it was you that used that word. I think you are being a bit paranoid or maybe you're taking Shawn's struggles too seriously. Take a deep breath, grab a soda and relax. it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 22,577 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, geopang said: Some struggles are bigger than others. He’s white, famous, rich, attractive, etc. He already has it better than the majority of the world. It’s very appropriate to compare struggles, because he doesn’t realize the trauma that gay people have actually been through. No one is saying he can’t have insecurities. But at this point he can just deny it and move on. If he was secure about himself being heterosexual, he wouldn’t even react the way he’s reacting. I'll disregard that first part of your comment even though I highly disagree with it. But the second part: Did you read what he says? His point about how harmful it is to push these judgements onto someone? What if, like he said, he WAS closeted and terrified? He's just speaking up against something that he believes to be harmful - and not just for himself, but for other people who face similar scrutiny as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Bloody Grammys said: He is so unproblematic and kind that it's hard to believe he is a regular straight white male And especially for his age. He is very mature too. Lord he is just so ajshsjsjjshshshd perfect He‘s not unproblematic 💀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy scheisse 20,339 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Why am I on GGD said: Isn't showing emotion exactly what Shawn is doing in this interview? He literally throws his insecurities onto the table for thousands to read. Yet somehow this is now also being labelled as "gay". The problem in this case isn't fragile masculinity, it's rigid stereotyping. And even IF he were gay (which I am NOT implying) - it's not anyone's place to put those words in his mouth. Let people be their own judge - figuring out your identity is hard enough without this nonsense. I guess when I said that, I viewed it as fragile masculinity that he is so bothered by others perceiving him as gay. To the point that he was petrified Taylor Swift posted a video of him doing something "feminine". To me, regardless of whether he is straight or gay, him being so bothered by the fact that this rumor exists shows that there is something undesirable about being gay or simply just being feminine. "I guess I am kinda feminine" or whatever... It's like he's ashamed and defeated by it. It's not his fault it's society that perpetuates gender binary rules, but he is clearly suffering at the hands of toxic masculinity and ,yes just like you said, a rigid stereotype that comes with it which he is both imposing on himself from social norms... Etc. I agree it's bold of him to go public with these thoughts. It opens himup for scrutiny and misinterpretation. So he's courageous for that. But yeah to me he is expressing emotions that come from , at their root, pressure to be masculine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 22,577 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, Manul said: RIght? Gaga has had so many worse accusations, Miley had the entire world saying nasty things about her and how she looked during the Bangerz era, people are still saying that Jay cheats on Queen B etc. They moved on, like anyone else that values their peace of mind would. You can't stop people from talking about you, whether it's for good reasons or bad reasons, but if you ignore it enough, they move on too eventually. Not everyone can just "move on" though, these issues are highly personal. And let's not act like Miley or Gaga weren't affected by the demons they had to face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hybrid 10,959 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Borislshere said: Mendes says he isn’t proud to admit that he feels the need to be seen with women in public to “prove to people that I’m not gay” ever since the rumors began. “Even though in my heart I know that it’s not a bad thing,” he said. “There’s still a piece of me that thinks that. And I hate that side of me.” No family’s safe when I sashay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke78619 22,405 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I can’t at yall saying he’s an internal homophobe back when I didn’t know I was gay, and people were calling me gay left right and centre, it hurt and made me feel like sh*t. I knew there was nothing wrong with being gay, and I wasn’t being internally homophobic, it just hurt for people to tell me that I am something that I didn’t think I was. It didn’t even occur to me that I was until a few years after this began. Shawn is just feeling the same way. I am in no way saying that hE dOeSnT kNoW hEs GaY yEt, and don’t bother @ing me saying iTs CoMpLeTeLy DiFfErEnT bEcAuSe YoU aRe GaY insta: good_lukeing | I have nothing else to promote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Why am I on GGD said: Not everyone can just "move on" though, these issues are highly personal. And let's not act like Miley or Gaga weren't affected by the demons they had to face. He's not doing himself any favors. That behavior is what fuels people even more. Now instead of "he's gay" people will be saying he has internalized homophobia as well. You can't win with the internet, you just ignore it and move on and they stop nagging you. Except for the real thirsty ones anyhow. it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 23,630 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Let it go. Who cares? He's famous and every male singer at some point of his life was called that so who really cares? People are just thirsty for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 22,577 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, monster78619 said: I can’t at yall saying he’s an internal homophobe back when I didn’t know I was gay, and people were calling me gay left right and centre, it hurt and made me feel like sh*t. I knew there was nothing wrong with being gay, and I wasn’t being internally homophobic, it just hurt for people to tell me that I am something that I didn’t think I was. It didn’t even occur to me that I was until a few years after this began. Shawn is just feeling the same way. I am in no way saying that hE dOeSnT kNoW hEs GaY yEt, and don’t bother @ing me saying iTs CoMpLeTeLy DiFfErEnT bEcAuSe YoU aRe GaY Exactly how I feel. I was about to post something extremely similar, but chickened out because I anticipated people saying "iTs DiFfErEnT bEcAuSe YoUrE Bi, wHiCh pRoBaBlY mEaNs yOuRe JuSt GaY iN DeNiAl aNyWaY" So thanks for posting it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 22,577 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 People need to stop blaming him for being insecure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANGT 4,709 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 wow it's not that deep guys. he's having a bad time with it. he expressed that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malazam 15,710 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Borislshere said: need to be seen with women in public to “prove to people that I’m not gay hmmmmmm if you need to prove it.. "not all men" ha experience another shot before we kiss the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Featured Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.