Ariana Shows How to Thrive as a Pop Star in a Hip-Hop Musical Economy

[Glamourpuss 29,062]

19 minutes ago, SHALLOW said:

The thing with Gaga, i think, is that she wants to treat the album and the Era more like art. She wants to give people time to take it all in and appreciate it overtime since most of the times her albums are quite different and fans don’t always understand them. ( i wouldn’t have loved ARTPOP so much if i wasn’t given the time to understand it and understand what it meant to me). Also she creates alter egos and concepts and  fashion also changes and is always quite appropriate for each era, not to mention the quality of the music and lyrics. Gaga is simply doing something else, she doesn’t want to dominate the charts but rather spread art. 

I agree.

I'd absolutely hate it if Gaga changed the way she was as an artist and released songs as fast as this. I want to be able to fully enjoy an era, look forward to videos and performances and of course the tour. If she released 2 albums in a year (not counting ASIB) then it would be guaranteed that alot of songs would be cut from the tour assuming that the tour was the same length as the previous ones. And there would be fan meltdowns because their fave track hasn't been given the right treatment and been ignored by Gaga.

 

[guyzplzstaph 172]

39 minutes ago, SHALLOW said:

The thing with Gaga, i think, is that she wants to treat the album and the Era more like art. She wants to give people time to take it all in and appreciate it overtime since most of the times her albums are quite different and fans don’t always understand them. ( i wouldn’t have loved ARTPOP so much if i wasn’t given the time to understand it and understand what it meant to me). Also she creates alter egos and concepts and  fashion also changes and is always quite appropriate for each era, not to mention the quality of the music and lyrics. Gaga is simply doing something else, she doesn’t want to dominate the charts but rather spread art. 

That's completely true. That's what I admire in her. But I wish she could fully command into it - right now I feel like she's stuck between fully developing her artistry and selling music. Which makes her neither conceptual artist, nor sellout one. I think she reached a point in her career where she should truly, and fully, command into what she wants to do, without looking at commercial success. I think we could get that actually with her next record. At least I hope so. And by that I don't mean 'give us pop-ga again', I personally wish for her to get as far from convenientional pop as possible. But regardless of the direction - I feel like her previous eras where great in terms of message/visual aspect, but music was always a bit detached, by not being invested as much into that. Maybe my point of view is caused by liking more experimental artists, and wishing she could dive into it more. Give me that dark music with the deformed body Instagram session I love 

Edit: 

Well, reading this now I think I contradicted myself a bit with wanting her to fully invest and not doing being stuck to eras. But what I mean is that she should just do what she wants, not exactly thinking about appealing to many. Well, that's still kind of off-topic 

[Killa 17,490]

Please

it's true to some extend, album cycles are no more, you just release the damn single. Which really means albums matter little.

Which isn't true to some extent, cause there is a faction of people that do listen the whole album.

And the truth is that she's riding on a controversy of a dead boyfriend and one that's on a still hot show and there's a whole controversy. That is absolutely disgusting.

[PUKKIE 457]

3 hours ago, Karl said:

This works for people like Ariana who are just throwing out cute bops but someone like Gaga needs more time to craft the album, and I think in the long run we’ll remember Million Reasons more than Thank You, Next.. 

100%

[nikola 4,342]

But the difference between Ariana and Gaga, for example, is that Gaga is an artist and Ariana is just a singer... Ariana will release cute meaningless bops every year while Gaga will not because she wants it to make sense to be perfect... Do you think Gaga didn't write any bops in time she was making Joanne of course she did she writes all the time but the reason she didn't put it is that it would not make sense for the peace of art that's Joanne... Don't get me wrong... I don't hate Ariana I like some of her books but she can release every year because her songs are mostly that... Cute bops nothing less nothing more. 

And tbh one of the reasons for Ariana's success is that she is adding parts of RnB and hip-hop sound in her songs... And that's what is popular today... There is a reason she is reapiting same words in her choruses... It sounds hip-hopish and easy to listen. 

Again I am not hating Ariana I like some of her songs... It's just my opinion 

[StrawberryBlond 14,881]

Thing is, journalists always produce articles like this when an artist does something new and say it's the new way forward for the industry...and then immediately go right back on their word when another artist does something new and says that last model they praised is old hat now. It's like, not every move can be the new way forward. So many people in a hurry to suck up, I swear. How long will it be before this move is started to be referred to as oversaturation and desperation? I really don't know how a move that impedes artistry and involves rushing your art can be a good move from the consumer's perspective.