What if ARTPOP didn't 'flop'?

[Seeka 12,372]

Everything that happened during ARTPOP had very little to do with the album and music but what was happening with Gaga, mentally and physically, and her team.

[Texasgaga 219]

3 hours ago, Ziggy said:

Tbh I don’t think Adele will get it. She’s not a typical pop star. She’s done her own thing and stuck to a classical style for awhile. She might have less successful eras but duh her 2nd and 3rd were ENORMOUS. Still, I don’t think she’ll get aggressive backlash like Gaga or KP has had. She’s just not in the same space of the zeitgeist as they are. 

Well, Adele just said that she was going to take huge risks with her next album and it’s 1/2 & 1/2 on whether people will turn on her or not. 

[Spartacus 4,485]

Well for one, there wouldn't be threads like this one made...

[jakob 6,049]

15 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

Well for one, there wouldn't be threads like this one made...

There would've been a thread called "What if ARTPOP ACT II didn't flop?"  

[Gagaplayer315 14,171]

5 hours ago, NotMyFlop said:

ARTPOP, for better and for worse, was an overstuffed album with too many fillers that just weren't that great.

Stopped reading at this part

 

[zakariah 11,722]

i guess she wouldn't have landed the ASIB role & wouldn't have all this oscar buzz rn

[SLAYing 3,136]

2 hours ago, Seeka said:

Everything that happened during ARTPOP had very little to do with the album and music but what was happening with Gaga, mentally and physically, and her team.

This.... Period. 

[A Hybrid 11,049]

No. Gaga knows how to survive a flop, and she proved it. If ARTPOP never flopped, she wouldn’t have needed to prove it. Her career isn’t “better” or “worse” because of ARTPOP. Maybe if ARTPOP never happened she’d be a little more commercial.

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6 hours ago, NotMyFlop said:

Honestly, I think her career would be in a lot worse state than it currently was in. 

The Fame/The Fame Monster/Born This Way's massive sales and success I think gave Gaga the idea she can stuff literally anything into an album and it be successful. ARTPOP, for better and for worse, was an overstuffed album with too many fillers that just weren't that great. While you can argue BTW had that issue too, the success of the album simply didn't allow that narrative to exist. 

ARTPOP's disaster gave Gaga a Tabla Rasa of sorts, a clean slate. 

Since 2014, with Cheek to Cheek, Gaga has almost expertly crafted this comeback narrative. Everything she has done has been constant praise, hype, and love. Although for us fans it may have seemed boring, calculated or redundant, Gaga has played the safe game to claim her throne as a legend. 

ASIB is arguably gonna be the climax of this four-year redemption arc; but if she nails the landing and really earns awards and acclaim for her first movie, there is no doubt that her career is going to be alot more interesting again. 

With Gaga's critical, financial and award success back to where it was, Gaga can do what we know she can do and this time execute it more maturely and properly. (It's why she teased DarkGa again...) 

I think Enigma, and everything beyond Gaga will be very experimental and bold again.

Gurl, that’s your opinion. ARTPOP “ flopped “cause of the hatred surrounding Gaga during that time and also cause the album itself was not very relatable to most people but that has nothing to do with the quality of the album. 

[Drin Lon 7,875]

You could have had a point if Joanne had been better than ARTPOP, but it wasn't, so no. Gaga is Gaga, that's it.

[TheFameGagster 70]

8 hours ago, NotMyFlop said:

as an overstuffed album with too many fillers that just weren't that great.

GODPOP slander will not be tolerated

enjoy your WP

[TheFameGagster 70]

if ARTPOP didn't flop it would be realised universally as the best pop album of the decade 

 

[Just Saying 0]

10 hours ago, Mulholland said:

If ARTPOP hadn't underperformed, her next era would have. Or the one after that.

People (the media and general public) don't let supernova pop artists (especially females) go unchecked for all that long. Gotta bring 'em back down to earth, put 'em in their place. The tear-down happened to Madonna. It *just* happened to Taylor Swift and Katy Perry. In a way, it happened to Beyonce. One day it will happen to Adele.

So it would have happened eventually, though I agree the fall could have been a lot worse had it come after even more continuous success. 

...it really didn't but okay  reputation sold 8.3m within 10 months of its release.

The Reputation Stadium Tour is slaying everyone and everything. Wdym sis? 

[Woohoo 6,534]

12 hours ago, River said:

there's nothing wow about ARTPOP, apart from Venus, with all it's flaws, ARTPOP is another pop record that any other singer could record,

 

 

 

p.s ARTPOP didnt flop

 

 

[Mulholland 1,052]

2 hours ago, Just Saying said:

...it really didn't but okay  reputation sold 8.3m within 10 months of its release.

The Reputation Stadium Tour is slaying everyone and everything. Wdym sis? 

That image proves my point lol?

Despite coming off of her biggest era (and one of the biggest modern pop eras period), Reputation sold less than half of its predecessor and less than *all* of her other albums.

The Reputation singles didn't perform nearly as well as 1989's.

The Reputation reviews were tepid at best.

And the press surrounding the Reputation era has been fairly negative. 

I'll give you the tour is a wild success, but that's really the only thing that wasn't kind of a mess for her this time out.

Was it an unqualified flop? No. But neither was ARTPOP, which is kind of the point. The two actually have a lot in common in terms of reception. Both are underperformances when compared with the artist's previous eras.