ARTPOPSTER 4,241 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aglaya 7,941 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 could mean anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvnrp 48,353 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 She was popular before you could get billions of views on YouTube easily and Spotify was only kinda coming out in Europe only. The streaming service of that time was Pandora Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
migamiga 12,100 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I didn’t know she was having issues. Maybe she should call her internet provider. Could be a bad connection Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlpha 3,830 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 She’s not very popular anymore. With young people. One huge hit again could help tho. Also her team aren’t trying at all to make her a streaming force. You know this is just my opinion, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Because when everyone was transitioning to Spotify she had her underperformaning era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 as someone else said, the switch to streaming happened during her backlash era and they didn't promote Joanne's singles well on spotify etc The Cure did well with virtually no promo and Joanne's album tracks aren't doing too bad but if she wants a hit, they need to get up to date with their promo https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 She's an old school kinda girl, she's from the time you had to travel miles just to go to the farm to get the DVDs from the cows and used a chicken's vocal cords for streaming. No, but really, it's just she was flopping while Spotify became the thing and bc she hasn't done any efforts to integrate herself so far. this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 7,238 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 she's from the pre-streaming era and since then she hasn't had a monster hit to properly re-introduce her to the new times. She basically needs a career-making megahit because streaming will need to start from zero in her case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickens in Malibu 7,873 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Personally I hate this streaming era. First of all, Taylor Swift was absolutely right. Streaming really hurts the beginners and especially songwriters. Today you can write a massive hit and receive only few thousands of dollars in royalties. Why? Because sales don't happen anymore, and Spotify pays so little to songwriters. It's really very very discouraging, and I wish this streaming era didn't happen at all. Too bad that the media jumped on hating TS when she tried to stand up for songwriters and new artists: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34344619/all-about-that-bass-writer-says-he-got-5679-from-178m-streams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, nicolasrumet said: First of all, Taylor Swift was absolutely right. Streaming really hurts the beginners and especially songwriters. Today you can write a massive hit and receive only few thousands of dollars in royalties. Why? Because sales don't happen anymore, and Spotify pays so little to songwriters. It's really very very discouraging, and I wish this streaming era didn't happen at all. Too bad that the media jumped on hating TS when she tried to stand up for songwriters and new artists: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34344619/all-about-that-bass-writer-says-he-got-5679-from-178m-streams Even sadder when you consider the fact Taylor eventually submitted to the trend too this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kween 2,696 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, nicolasrumet said: Today you can write a massive hit and receive only few thousands of dollars in royalties. I thought singers got most of their money from tours, concerts, interviews, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlpha 3,830 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, nicolasrumet said: Personally I hate this streaming era. First of all, Taylor Swift was absolutely right. Streaming really hurts the beginners and especially songwriters. Today you can write a massive hit and receive only few thousands of dollars in royalties. Why? Because sales don't happen anymore, and Spotify pays so little to songwriters. It's really very very discouraging, and I wish this streaming era didn't happen at all. Too bad that the media jumped on hating TS when she tried to stand up for songwriters and new artists: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34344619/all-about-that-bass-writer-says-he-got-5679-from-178m-streams I don’t really hate the streaming era at all. Music is more accessible now. And because of that, we have a clearer idea of what most people are listening to. People have spoken. This is what they like. And as an artist, you either get on it or stay behind. Taylor Swift had to drop reputation everywhere. She understands now. You know this is just my opinion, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickens in Malibu 7,873 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Kween said: I thought singers got most of their money from tours, concerts, interviews, etc. No, I'm talking about songwriters, the people who write those bops that we hear on the radio but only get paid through royalties. Since sales don't happen that much anymore, their income has drastically decreased. So you can write a hit with Beyoncé, 80/20. Beyoncé would make millions of dollars from that hit (strong era leads to great tour income etc..) and the other songwriter with 80% share would only make few thousands (unless radios play the song in really high rotation). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kween 2,696 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, nicolasrumet said: So you can write a hit for Beyoncé, 100/0. FixedT Spoiler I see what you’re saying btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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