Should Gaga stop working with overconfident/cocky people?

[The Child 18,997]

5 hours ago, Vegas said:

She already did by stopping working with Laurieann Gibson and Troy Carter. 

And Redone. 

RedOne is cocky? Since when?

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6 hours ago, nicolasrumet said:

That's my issue. You become who you surround yourself with.

Except Gaga's been confident about her work since day one tbh? I distinctly remember Fame era interviews where she praises herself and her lyrics. It's nothing new, and I don't see anything wrong with it either. I love it when she oozes confidence and stands by her work. She's never been "cocky".

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5 hours ago, nicolasrumet said:

Except that Gaga has remained TOTALLY quiet about LG6. It's her producers that keep hyping it up.

they've said like what, 3 tweets over 2 years?  that only stans know about?  Thats hardly "hyping" things up.   This fanbase takes little nuggets that they should know by now need to be taken with a grain of salt, and then they hype themselves up. The "overhyping" is purely internal.

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8 hours ago, AnnTakamaki said:

i dont see how this is being cocky or overconfident,  it's just artist being proud of their work, it's not like "yes i'm the queen/king, top of the chart, i will slay you with greatness" or anything.

This. Perhaps the producers should be less inclined to post stuff that can come back to haunt them, because how the public ultimately receives the music isn't up to them. With Joanne for instance, although the album didn't set the world on fire, Gaga and Ronson and co had absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.

[ShayCristoforo 10,607]

I think some great work comes with them so no need to burn bridges. And their cockiness sometimes is prob just them getting really excited about the project, which is a good thing. That said, a mix of humble-cocky would be fine.
I also think we need to discipline ourselves and have less meltdowns over the tweets LOL. Like #2018radioisours, ok let's just wait and see and play it cool guys haha 

[AndrewGr 6,022]

Off topic, but I really want her to work with Hillary Lindsay again. MR and GG are two of her best ballads, plus she's super talented and really admired Gaga. 

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If someday i become Gagas manager i will prevent her from working with overconfident people.

Meanwhile if she wants a fridge as the writer/producer of her next album, she can do it.

[JazzGa 14,621]

I don't think you really have a problem with "cocky" people, I think you have a problem with people who claim her song will be a commercial/chart success and then it isn't a commercial success, because you take terms like "hit" literally and think they owe you some kind of payoff when they use it. They're just musicians who are pleased with what they have created. IDK why you drag Whitney up as an example of a "humble" artist, gurl certainly recognized her own greatness. 

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14 hours ago, VOLANTIS said:

Gaga calling ARTPOP "Album of the millennium" was also so cringy even before we heard what it was..   

She was joking though, she unironically called Born This Way the "album of the century" before it came out. Before ARTPOP, a fan on Twitter asked her if ARTPOP would be the new album of the century and she said "It'll be the album of the MILLENNIUM." I love our tongue-in-cheek queen. 

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14 hours ago, SwissMonster said:

Yeah no...

This:

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The Fact that, yes ARTPOP got hyped, but „the flop“ what concerns the GP is the fact that they where not ready for such a masterpiece  And I am not joking, I still think ARTPOP came to early. And indeed Joanne was well recieved by the GP but not because it wasn’t hyped, because it was more GP friendly (Let’s be honest, I loved the album, but ). That’s what makes the difference between flop and not a flop, not the hype before it (and we definitely can not speak of extrem hype outside the fanbase )

Lol ARTPOP came too late  

[Ziggy 11,963]

I would not agree. The way that these people are talking about the stuff is braggadocios, yes, but meant less that it *is* a hit and more that they think it's a damn good song that everyone will love. It's fun and they're proud to have made it. It's just another way of saying that. With Gaga talking about A-YO to Howard, I think she's saying from the standpoint of a songwriter that that song she worked on with friends is one hell of a good time and has the goods by her measure. I don't necessarily think that that's cockiness so much as her expressing her love for the work that both she and others did. Plus, I once read a quote from someone that said, "Humility is falsely downplaying one's own successes and is more often than not a lie." I'd agree with that in most cases. If you ask, say, Michael Jackson or Adele about their songs I'm sure they'd tell you, in honest settings and not the media, that a song they wrote is awesome and they love it. We just shame pride in a lot of cases instead of encouraging people to take stock in their work.

 

Sidenote: A-YO is a hit. It was very well-received on social media (if only it had had a better name so people knew how to find it and it was the lead and not a contestant for single #2). If Gaga did not have a reputation as a hitmaker then I would definitely be reluctant to trust such hubris, but the girl's got enough hits to fill out a Superbowl halftime show and still have some leftover. I think she knows what makes a song a hit.

 

Sidenote Sidenote: I love that Gaga has rockstar confidence. She has the swagger we usually only let men have and it's let her thrive.

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so you want gaga to produce music by herself huh 

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1 hour ago, Ziggy said:

I would not agree. The way that these people are talking about the stuff is braggadocios, yes, but meant less that it *is* a hit and more that they think it's a damn good song that everyone will love. It's fun and they're proud to have made it. It's just another way of saying that. With Gaga talking about A-YO to Howard, I think she's saying from the standpoint of a songwriter that that song she worked on with friends is one hell of a good time and has the goods by her measure. I don't necessarily think that that's cockiness so much as her expressing her love for the work that both she and others did. Plus, I once read a quote from someone that said, "Humility is falsely downplaying one's own successes and is more often than not a lie." I'd agree with that in most cases. If you ask, say, Michael Jackson or Adele about their songs I'm sure they'd tell you, in honest settings and not the media, that a song they wrote is awesome and they love it. We just shame pride in a lot of cases instead of encouraging people to take stock in their work.

 

Sidenote: A-YO is a hit. It was very well-received on social media (if only it had had a better name so people knew how to find it and it was the lead and not a contestant for single #2). If Gaga did not have a reputation as a hitmaker then I would definitely be reluctant to trust such hubris, but the girl's got enough hits to fill out a Superbowl halftime show and still have some leftover. I think she knows what makes a song a hit.

 

Sidenote Sidenote: I love that Gaga has rockstar confidence. She has the swagger we usually only let men have and it's let her thrive.

You see there's nothing wrong with saying a song you wrote is awesome and you love it.

There's a big difference between that and when I described. What I have issues with is cringy stuff like "2018RadioIsOurs" and I "wrote a hit" etc... The words you use make a big difference. You can say very nice things about your work, but calling it a commercial success before it's even released is a bit cocky (as if you expect people to love anything you put out). Work hard, say nice things about it and let its success speak for it. 

Did you hear Taylor Swift say she wrote the greatest album of the year or anything like that? When describing 1989 she called it "the album of my career" same with Ed Sheeran. 

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She should tell her producers to tell the fans something like this:

"Yes, I worked with Gaga. We made a 20 track album full of flops so don't expect anything brilliant from this flop and boring album, flop fan" 

And then you get slayed because it was a brilliant, show stopping, never the same, totally unique album. 

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59 minutes ago, sipthistea said:

She should tell her producers to tell the fans something like this:

"Yes, I worked with Gaga. We made a 20 track album full of flops so don't expect anything brilliant from this flop and boring album, flop fan" 

And then you get slayed because it was a brilliant, show stopping, never the same, totally unique album. 

Or she could just tell her producers to not hype it up and wait until it's released. It's a standard practice in the industry.

You don't hear stuff like this from producers working rihanna's upcoming album, or adele's or beyoncé's, or ed sheeran's etc...  The most they'd say if they were to say anything is that they love it and things like that... I don't know why it has to be different with Gaga.

As I said previously, Gaga has been quiet about LG6 and I like her new approach from Joanne. So my concerns aren't directed at her.