Gay couple publically whipped under Sharia in Indonesia

[Jessica Germ 2,129]

31 minutes ago, Venusfly said:

but the internet will still get mad at people for criticising islam

Yeah we are the iSlAmOPhoBES 

[venusfly 17,885]

1 minute ago, Mythos said:

Isn't it? I'm not sayin all of them are like that, but most problems i had a as a gay person was always with moslems, in front of the club, at the street etc, and that was in Munich. 

And look what is happening to Europe right now, all the countries are turning to far right, because there are so many of them here right now. Afd is soon gonna be the second largest party in Germany... 

I won't talk for your experiences but christianity and islam are just as hard on gay people as each other. Muslims don't really pose any more threat to gay people than the majority christian communities in most European countries.

And countries are turning further right because of politicians playing up the dangers of immigration/multiculturalism as a threat, not because of the immigrants themselves. We have ourselves as populations to blame for buying into it and voting.

[Moebius 8,965]

12 minutes ago, Venusfly said:

Muslims immigrating to other countries isn't really a risk at all, the issue is religious governments. No religion should have power over a country's judicial system.

It actually is because most of the time these diehard cultures refuse to adapt to western society. Less apparent if the immigrants are from more educated and less religiously strict backgrounds

[Melech 9,900]

10 minutes ago, Venusfly said:

I won't talk for your experiences but christianity and islam are just as hard on gay people as each other. Muslims don't really pose any more threat to gay people than the majority christian communities in most European countries.

And countries are turning further right because of politicians playing up the dangers of immigration/multiculturalism as a threat, not because of the immigrants themselves. We have ourselves as populations to blame for buying into it and voting.

Sadly, there is some truth in it. In places with an high percentage of muslim immigrants there are increasing assaults against homosexuals. 50% of Muslims in UK believe homosexualty should be banned. I think Muslims should be allowed to live here, but they need to accent a secular world view.

[Emigrante 9,994]

51 minutes ago, Bat said:

It's devastating to read this. I've been to Saudi-Arabia once and I saw a public hanging of two gay boys when my taxi drove to my congress. It's hard to realize that we live in the same world as those barbaric people. I hope we eventually go back to the days of the old Greeks and Romans where gay sex was completely normal and accepted by everyone.

what the hell :oo They killed them publicly? And that's legal. Jesus Christ. 

[Mythos 3,199]

17 minutes ago, Venusfly said:

I won't talk for your experiences but christianity and islam are just as hard on gay people as each other. Muslims don't really pose any more threat to gay people than the majority christian communities in most European countries.

And countries are turning further right because of politicians playing up the dangers of immigration/multiculturalism as a threat, not because of the immigrants themselves. We have ourselves as populations to blame for buying into it and voting.

Sorry honey, but the first part is not really true, what you are talking about is Ost-Europe maybe, but in the west i have never experienced any problems being gay (Germany, Spain, France, UK, Italy). I just was last weekend at the Madrid pride with like 2 million people, nobody could care less if someone is gay. 

It's not only politicians playing with peoples mind, it's also that people don't want them here. I was in Bavaria (where i grew up), was visiting family, when the elections was and Afd got so many votes, at first i was really shocked, because AfD is also against some gay rights, and it was kinda terrible, but i also talked to people i know who voted for AfD. I wanted to know why they voted for them, and it's always the same, it's different culture, it's changing everything, they don't really bland in etc., and i kinda can understand them. As long as they come and bring their culture etc., it will always be difficult, and no matter what reasons people bring, they are immediately racist. Whatever you say, you are racist nowdays. And i don't think it's fair, or even beneficial to anyone to attack the west like this, because it will just separate the west from islam even more and more.

And how much they don't adapt to the west, even after few generations, we have seen with turks from Germany voting for Erdogan. Turks living here in second or third generation, voted for Erdogan and everything he stands for. 63.1% of Turks living in Germany voted for Erdogan. So tell me, how am i supposed to feel after votes like this?

[Alii 2,039]

Waiting for the "this has nothing to do with Islam" comment. 

[MyQueen 2,409]

[Alii 2,039]

11 minutes ago, Melech said:

Sadly, there is some truth in it. In places with an high percentage of muslim immigrants there are increasing assaults against homosexuals. 50% of Muslims in UK believe homosexualty should be banned. I think Muslims should be allowed to live here, but they need to accent a secular world view.

But 50% is nothing compared to Muslims in the ME. For example, in Egypt, 90% believe homosexuality should not be accepted.

 

[ShockPop 7,747]

23 minutes ago, Venusfly said:

I won't talk for your experiences but christianity and islam are just as hard on gay people as each other. Muslims don't really pose any more threat to gay people than the majority christian communities in most European countries.

And countries are turning further right because of politicians playing up the dangers of immigration/multiculturalism as a threat, not because of the immigrants themselves. We have ourselves as populations to blame for buying into it and voting.

No.

Christianity and Islam are inherently different due to the nature of their hate. The most extreme Christians in the world will picket your funeral or not make you cake. A Muslim extremist will flat out kill you and everyone you know.

It stems from the fact that Islam is still stuck in a tribal mindset. This is the mindset that is also allowing them to break down western norms and settle in areas they can grow and acquire as their own.

[monster4life231 4,304]

Religion at this point seems to be dividing people more than uniting them.

I bet God is hanging His/Her head in absolute shame at us all.

Peace and unity should be the main motivation behind every religion.

Sad times.

[Melech 9,900]

8 minutes ago, Alii said:

But 50% is nothing compared to Muslims in the ME. For example, in Egypt, 90% believe homosexuality should not be accepted.

 

I think Egpyt is one place where the situation is getting worse, right?

 

[venusfly 17,885]

2 hours ago, ShockPop said:

No.

Christianity and Islam are inherently different due to the nature of their hate. The most extreme Christians in the world will picket your funeral or not make you cake. A Muslim extremist will flat out kill you and everyone you know.

It stems from the fact that Islam is still stuck in a tribal mindset. This is the mindset that is also allowing them to break down western norms and settle in areas they can grow and acquire as their own.

What?

The "most extreme christians" will only picket you? How about the United States where homophobes shoot people or assault them. Refusing to make people cakes and holding up "god hates f*gs" is scratching the surface of christian violence and you know it. Middle Eastern countries are more violent towards gays because they have religious governments which reinforce their homophobic beliefs instead of curbing them, which Christians no longer have.

We would not have this big of an issue without Islamic governments run by old timer extremists.

[Regina George 59,387]

1 hour ago, Venusfly said:

but the internet will still get mad at people for criticising islam

But every religion forbids gay relationships. This is not just Islam but most of you LOVE to represent Islam like some sort of unique religion that forbids everything. Also user who made this thread is well known Islam hater on GGD and clearly from Israel - aka the country that bombarded thousands of muslim civilians includind woman, kids and old people. There is nothing in Kur’an about “killing gay people” - read it and you will see. This is national law that has nothing to do with islam - it is law made by man and not God in Islam. So please don’t talk about islam like that. I am muslim woman and I don’t wear hijab, I don’t kill people, I don’t hate people. 

[ShockPop 7,747]

The problem here is religion in general. We have surely outgrown this nonsense by now?