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Gaga Fans Are The Reason Why Gaga Isn't Successful


Dunk96

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21 minutes ago, Galagala said:

Her success was built by her team and herself with all those great hits, attractive outfits, iconic videos ,and a really tight but helpful schedule. 

Her failure was obviously not caused by little monsters. She even had a really perfect chance to rise to top again after her fabulous February in 2016, but she decided to release Joanne instead of some pop hits. It was all her thoughts and choices. 

Yeah, in terms of commercial performances and the popularity, she isn't successful now. However, everything now depends on her own decisions so I think at least she is happier than before. 

 

 

THIS!

I totally agree. In my opinion i think there's been such a noticeable difference in the way she promoted and released her albums prior to Joanne and it's sort of thrown fans off a bit. I think the fact that she brought in a manager - and i'm not blaming him-  and his main focus was "cleaning up her image" and focusing on the music and her voice was also sort of an "out of left" move for fans. 

I personally have always seen Gaga as a complete package. She gave you music, performances, and looks that just tied the era's together. With Joanne she just toned down everything so much and so quickly that it just seemed a bit all over the place and confusing i guess. Even during the ARTPOP era i feel like the general public may not have been like fans but they could still enjoy her music and enjoy her as a performer because she was different and interesting and she was GAGA. I love seeing her grow as an artist but I would love to feel the passion from her that I felt when she released previous projects.  

Being a fan of someone doesn't mean you're gonna like everything they do. I personally would not buy a Gaga album if I didn't like the songs on there because that's just silly. Fans are the reason she has been so successful.

PS I'm not gonna argue with anyone about my opinion so if you don't like just keep scrolling. Don't quote me.

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GhettoFabulous

:lolly:Sweetie it’s because she hasn’t really delivered a consistent era since BTW by consistent I mean GREAT MUSIC GREAT MVs GREAT PROMO GREAT ERA OVERALL etc. And if you gonna tell me “Joanne was...” don’t quote me cuz sweetie :awkney::vegas::lolly: I mean.... fans don’t have to buy and like everything she does so if she continues to isolate us well then...:lolly:

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tomsches

ARTPOP is not experimental edm and Joanne is neither bluegrass nor indie 

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2 hours ago, Dunk96 said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I feel as though since Born This Way,many of Gaga's fans have turned against her going into different genres of music (experimental EDM with ARTPOP,jazz with Cheek To Cheek and bluegrass/indie with Joanne,but as if this is any mystery to anyone),but I think I really know why Gaga hasn't been as successful since the conclusion of Born This Way.

Many of Gaga's fans want her to still make the music she was making with her first three projects (The Fame,Fame Monster,and Born This Way) and many fans are still waiting for "the new" Poker Face,Just Dance,Bad Romance,Paparazzi,Born This Way,Judas,Alejandro,etc. The fans truly don't want Gaga to experiment with new genres and they want her to stay in a box with her music and appeal to the LGBT audience she grew with her beginning projects. I just think it's sad that so many of her fans turned on her and have said nasty terrible things about her and her musical direction. I notice it most on here (obviously because I dare not go on Twitter) and I see countless threads and statuses about Gaga's success and her music. The fans are the problem,not her. Gaga's not successful because the fans hinder her success by not buying her projects. For a while,Gaga's sales were a force to be reckoned with,but starting with ARTPOP her sales have slowed down. I've bought both ARTPOP and Joanne at the beginning of their release cycles to support her and I do genuinely love the music of those two albums (my parents bought me Cheek to Cheek for Christmas so it technically counts as a sale). Honestly even if Gaga one day put out an album I didn't really enjoy,I'd still buy it to support her because I love her so much. Just my two cents,don't shoot the messenger.

I hope LG6 brings Gaga fans back together and we can go back to a happier time before the chaos with her hip injury.

I had to get my computer out just to make this response btw 

Boldface #1: Joanee aint close to Bluegrass, this is bluegrass. (ARTPOP isnt experimental either. Gaga hasnt done anything really experimetal.)

 

 

 

Boldface #2: Hallelujah, However I dont think her fanbase to really matter sales wise. I just think she pays too much attention to them. It doesnt help most of them wouldnt know creative music if it bit them on the butt. The GP matters MUCH more.


I want her to make creative and new music. I dont want a rehash of TFM, and I REALLY dont want another The Fame. 

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Gagaism

Which singer nowadays can bring so much crowd when visiting or doing whatever in anywhere especially in NYC? The only and right answer is the legendary Lady Gaga, so it isn't mean success? :whitney:

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She isn't as succesful because the 2009-2012 period was her peak. A peak is a peak for a reason. She's still doing just fine and a lot of her current success is thanks to her super loyal fan base. What other pop star can do jazz, country/folk inspired pop album and still go #1 on BB200 and tour with decent boxscores? Accusing fans of not doing enough for Gaga or trying to box her is silly. I will agree that some monsters can't move on from previous sounds and it's understandable but they need to get with the times lol. Also if you think Gaga isn't succesful enough it has to do in part with the fact that the music she is releasing isnt exactly palatable for the masses as opposed to some other music released by other artists that is literally catered for streaming and radio...which ends up being succesful. If anything the fact that this fan base and casual listeners / new fans are able to carry Gaga's records to platinum status is amazing and should be applauded. Us Little Monsters are actually one of the best most loyal fan bases. A little bitchy and catty but we still cough up our coins for Gaga when the time comes. Just my two cents on it of course and I totally get that everyone is aloud to have their own opinion on this matter :hug:

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The thing is, taste in music is subjective. No one can be forced to like a particular artists'/ a particular genre of music. Also, since Gaga has already achieved massive name recognition, commercial success is not much relevant for her anymore. Those who genuinely like her, will keep listening to her music.

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dynamite

I'm not even going to read your post

She is successful

Like a poem said by a neydy in red
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MonsterAura

I have absolutely no problem with her trying different genres. I definitely don’t want her to do the same things over and over. I just want quality. 

I loved Cheek To Cheek because it had quality, and she was so passionate about it. 

I think a big part of why the fans feel somewhat left behind is because she seems almost scared of doing anything shocking or new now. She doesn’t want to be too this or too that, and that is not the edgy Gaga that we know and love.

She went full-blown jazz, and had she gone full-blown country/folk for Joanne, I probably would’ve loved it. Instead she landed somewhere in between, and it’s kinda lukewarm for me (even though I loved it at first).

Not here for an argument btw, just voicing my opinion. 

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ALGAYDO
4 hours ago, ryanripley said:

i agree that her truly loyal fanbase does seem to come across as smaller as her peers but that's the price of an ever evolving artist

gaga doesn't fit in with the rest of the pop girls cus she's incredibly versatile and each album attracts a new audience and pushes away an old one

she's special for a reason, i wouldn't expect her future to be filled with just pop records like a lot of stans crave and bully her for

although the only real flops in her career are MTN, GUY, her music video view decline and streaming numbers lol

 

1 hour ago, dit said:

She isn't as succesful because the 2009-2012 period was her peak. A peak is a peak for a reason. She's still doing just fine and a lot of her current success is thanks to her super loyal fan base. What other pop star can do jazz, country/folk inspired pop album and still go #1 on BB200 and tour with decent boxscores? Accusing fans of not doing enough for Gaga or trying to box her is silly. I will agree that some monsters can't move on from previous sounds and it's understandable but they need to get with the times lol. Also if you think Gaga isn't succesful enough it has to do in part with the fact that the music she is releasing isnt exactly palatable for the masses as opposed to some other music released by other artists that is literally catered for streaming and radio...which ends up being succesful. If anything the fact that this fan base and casual listeners / new fans are able to carry Gaga's records to platinum status is amazing and should be applauded. Us Little Monsters are actually one of the best most loyal fan bases. A little bitchy and catty but we still cough up our coins for Gaga when the time comes. Just my two cents on it of course and I totally get that everyone is aloud to have their own opinion on this matter :hug:

Wow, why do both of you represent the exact two ideas I immediately thought about upon reading the OP lol

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17 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

 

Wow, why do both of you represent the exact two ideas I immediately thought about upon reading the OP lol

:hug::heart: 

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Bradley

I think most fans are here no matter what she does. Sure a couple may not have bought Joanne or Cheek to Cheek, but most fans did.

The people whose sales are dependent on the quality or genre of the music is the GP though. It also depends on promotion. Which is why promotion is so essentially important to each and every single. Million Reasons was promoted and now it's a Gaga classic. Cheek to Cheek also found success because of the massive promotion given to it, it's a jazz album that is platinum certified after all. I think in the US it sold almost as many copies as ARTPOP did, those are the wonders of promotion.

What I'm trying to say is that, if you want success, you gotta pay the hard work for it. Otherwise, the GP won't come back, because in their eyes there's too much music for yours to stand out.

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GABEL

Well....look at those artists who competed with her in 2013 during ARTPOP era(Katy, Miley...) She's doing just fine

Some of her fans are stuck in the past and it's annoying, but she's still in the game ten years in her career, that's an incredible achievement for a pop female singer:huntyga:

She knows what she's doing and her fans will still be here, otherwise they would have left after Jazz and Joanne

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nodandsmile

Gaga isn't successful ? I swear if you read some monsters' comments, you'd believe she's selling 5 copies of latest albums and touring in bars instead of arenas and stadiums :ladyhaha: TM/TFM  were freaking HUGE, she's not going to be at that same level of success all the time, that's just not possible! And I agree with others, fans are the reason why she still has a career. PI was a single that most people didn't like, she didn't bother promote it and gave up on it very quickly and STILL the album debuted at #1 with 200,000, something that some artists cannot do with better lead singles. That's because she still has a powerful and supportive fanbase (less than before but still).

But I agree with you on one thing though, the nasty comments and the non stop complaining. Gaga changes with every single album and even switches genres, so it is normal not to like every single thing she does and that's ok. For example, I hate ARTPOP and didn't buy it. I criticized respectfully and went listen to what I like. Some fans show her no respect and that's really annoying as if they couldn't listen to anything else. 

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