LG6 Expectations: Do you think it'll flop?

[Bradley 59,253]

1 hour ago, DAMN said:

What I meant by that was cultural impact. I might've exagerrated the critics part but the critical reception wasn't mindblowing - it's just good.

Plus I don't see any non-stans talking about how Joanne was amazing. And even other stans are not that impressed either.

Do Grammys still matter tho? Shape of You and Divide were nominated in the same category and won. (May Joanne rest Grammy-less)

Yeah which is why I said it received 'positive reviews'. I never said it was universally acclaimed. I don't think non-stans' opinions about an album are a healthy measure of whether or not an album is a flop. Commercial performance, critical reception and accolades are. The GP, aka non-stans, rarely talk about pop music in the way pop fans do. I think apart from megahit albums like Born This Way and Lemonade, everything else is a flop by your standards.

Joanne received good reviews, was nominated for two Grammys, was platinum certified, spawned a tour that grossed $95 million from just 49 shows, was performed at high-profile events like the Superbowl and Coachella, I think the era did fine.

Grammys still matter whether you like it or not. Just because us little monsters didn't like the outcome that Ed Sheeran won, it doesn't take much credibility away from the award show. Ed's fans could say that they did justice to Ed. We gotta judge objectively here.

[Bradley 59,253]

29 minutes ago, DAMN said:

If it wasn't for the fans, it wouldn't have been #1. 

So fans's sales should be disregarded right now?  Like only the GP counts and fans' support mean nothing?

[Schizophonic 7,015]

someone here said that is has something to do with the trends that changed during the time of the production (from written to released 1,5 year later).

i think that is kind of true. she never jumps on board to trends BUT she discovers and creates trends. but her own discovered trends could also be old when she waits 1,5 years.

 

for expample TFM was witten in the summer and released in fall of the same year. it was very up to date and she was leading with trends and not that many artists jumped on her former set trend yet.

also to do a song and finish it just right when you are in the flow for this particular song might be better than to work on it for months and overproduce it over and over again.

[Zaskar 3,962]

1 hour ago, Smother Em Eh said:

do tons of promo (Billboards, GMA and Today Show appearances, VMA, AMA, BBMA, IHRA, and do Jimmy Kimmel and Fallon). 

I don't think these matter much nowadays. Look at Miley, she did almost all of the things you listed, yet YN is one of the biggest flop by any A grade musician  If I remember correctly, she was on Fallon for a week or something 

 

I guess good placements at Spotify/Apple playlists is a first step. Cool video at the same day of song's release for a good peak. Radio payola or whatever it's called, and if you don't have high morals, which "unfortunately" Gaga does have, a feature of some trendy artist 

[MeloArtDramaPop 789]

You know what she hasnt done before give us a pure pop album

[dit 46,518]

I don't think it will flop but I also hardly see it smashing and becoming some sort of commercial comeback for Gaga. What I care for most is of course the quality but also on a commercial level that LG6 becomes sort of a bridge to success for her. Right now Gaga is sort of becoming local and she has aged her brand a lot. It was necessary to reinvent herself to be taken seriously as a n artist and vocalist but it came at the expense of losing a lot of youth in her brand. I want LG6 to be vibrant and streaming focused so that whatever she releases next could prosper and have a smoother path. LG6 to me will sort of like be her commercial "healing" era where she patches up her tragic relationship with radio and streaming so that whenever she releases LG7 it could have a higher chance of having a proper global hit single (unless ageism gets to her at that point which would be a whole other battle but I digress). 

[Bex Lightyear 276]

This fanbase. 

Can’t we just have faith?

[ImMatt 1,820]

14 hours ago, ARPiT said:

I don't think these matter much nowadays. Look at Miley, she did almost all of the things you listed, yet YN is one of the biggest flop by any A grade musician  If I remember correctly, she was on Fallon for a week or something 

 

I guess good placements at Spotify/Apple playlists is a first step. Cool video at the same day of song's release for a good peak. Radio payola or whatever it's called, and if you don't have high morals, which "unfortunately" Gaga does have, a feature of some trendy artist 

100% agree. The most successful and on trend artists rn don't do interviews, chat shows and hardly any promo (Drake, Beyoncé, The Weeknd, Frank Ocean even Taylor recently). 

Often less is more, which is one of the reasons The Cure did well. 

[ryanripley 86,575]

15 hours ago, BoogieWoogie said:

It will be a slight step down from Joanne's sales, so yes it would be considered a flop. People are losing interest in Gaga more and more, and as great the Super Bowl was from saving the Joanne era from looking like a total disaster, people were over it in a couple months. There is zero hype, but let's pray that promotion isn't stretched over one song for a whole year again (*cough* Million Reasons)

none of this is true

[Jessica Germ 2,129]

It will not flop, unless it's a pop album  Ain't that right @DutchHooker 

[DutchHooker 8,529]

2 minutes ago, Jessica Germ said:

It will not flop, unless it's a pop album  Ain't that right @DutchHooker 

It won't flop, unless it's a UNIQUE pop album, not something Ariane or Rihanna would release, something special like TFM or BTW... 

[Lucas 27,327]

I think it will sell slightly less than Joanne and the singles will go top 20

[debunked 9]

22 hours ago, SolidSnake said:

Fans are irrelevant, there isnt enough hardcore Gaga fans for that to matter. Albums arent reaching #1 without general public support. I can guarantee you suburban housewives made up a good portion of Joanne sales. 

This fanbase is big enough to help Gaga get an #1 album, especially in this sale climate

 

22 hours ago, BoogieWoogie said:

That's not true, look at people like Ed or Beyoncé. And no, post ARTPOP was her opportunity to get the GP interested again, and it failed. People DID care about Gaga coming back before Perfect Illusion, then she was over after that

yeah but she did the SuperBowl so i think there's still some hype left from GP for the next release

[BoogieWoogie 73]

1 minute ago, debunked said:

This fanbase is big enough to help Gaga get an #1 album, especially in this sale climate

 

yeah but she did the SuperBowl so i think there's still some hype left from GP for the next release

The super bowl made her more relevant for a few months, but by LG6s release it'll be around 2 years later. She can't rely on that to be her comeback for an album released two years after sksksks

[debunked 9]

1 minute ago, BoogieWoogie said:

The super bowl made her more relevant for a few months, but by LG6s release it'll be around 2 years later. She can't rely on that to be her comeback for an album released two years after sksksks

I'm not very positive about the next album success either, just because I dont want to overhype things but we'll see when it come out