dontbesweet 7 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 This is what happens when people don't take the time to really understand her or appreciate her. In fairness, it's sort of Gaga's fault for being the way she is; she's so outlandish people can't connect to her and assume she's an attention seeker or whatever. As much as we fans like to believe otherwise, she obviously craves fame and attention, otherwise she wouldn't have done the things she's done. Don't come at me with the whole orrr she's just artistic bull****, because her debut was THE FAME. She is obsessed with fame and lives for it. It's just a shame people don't see past that and appreciate the music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDi 1,495 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 so off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alffy74 53 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 some fans should read beyond the fact that Gaga was used as an example. If Gaga remained Stefani, she would have got nowhere, not because she is talentless, but because the public'd demand is for entertainment more than for pure talent. And let's face it, yes Gaga has a good voice, but it can't match the likes of Adele, Mariah, Whitney (RIP), Alicia to rely exclusively on her talent as a singer. But Doucette does have a point: when the pendulum swings back to music for music and not music for entertainment, Gaga will still be around, cause unlike others in the music industry now, she has the talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eolin 1 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I have so much to say about this!! I am just too lazy to do it. :ohwell: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltface 178 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 That's what bothered me the most. They basically said she was a Youtube sensation.. When she's said OVER AND OVER in TONS of interviews that she worked her ass off and went through the lowest ranks of the industry up to the very top. I know right, there's videos of her performing for about 100 people who have no idea who the **** she is on Youtube that have emerged since she made it. I suppose performing in clubs every night for 5 years after being signed dropped, etc, and not giving up doesn't count as working your way up lmao. And also, she has done a tonne of performances just sat banging away at a piano showcasing her talent and ability. These people need to do some proper research on her before wasting hours of their life writing a misinformed article about her ahha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,266 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 yeah, that's sometimes a bit sad. + the newspapers (only) pick stories (quicker) up for example when the rumour about the cockroach thing (ehh..source THE SUN) surfaced, belgian 'journalism' was reporting about it, but when she performs with legends or starts her own foundation, the attention is much much less. We know Gaga has the vocal and in general musical talent, but people shouldn't say like "she should have tried with just her voice", that's what she was like in the beginning, and ..well, you see, she didn't get fame and success by singing Captivated. IMO, her whole performance art and imago still complements the music and makes her so much more interesting as an artist Pure press tbh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envi 765 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 duh? it's the year 2012. The music industry back in the day is more powerful than today. Ofcourse, pop stars will do anything to spread/promote their music either by being controversial like wearing meatdress, s-x tape, break-ups, showing fake baby bumps, etc etc. so artist/celebrity comes first then the music and not the other way around. ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins 40 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 "Fans" and the public will remember Gaga for the crazy ****, not the music tbh . Kinda agree with this article , but I think Gaga is 100% artist . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyPonyRebel 3 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Do these people forget who raised this terrible generation? They did. Those ****y ****s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronyoji 2,054 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 In order to promote your music today an artist has to use the Internet, he has to have good videos, he has to have a marketing team, that's how the 21st century works? You won't spread your music if you only play your songs on the street There's too much competition today. And btw you know why Gaga's fashion & videos sometimes overshadow her music? Because public doesn't care about the music. It's not Gaga's fault, she is the complete package and public decides what they take out of that package. thiiiissssss. and in the end of the day, it is about the music! i mean, out of all the costumes and theatrics she can still give a great performance. i mean she did a thanksgiving special of mainly* acoustic performances, how is that not about the music? god, the mentality about her needs to change, not her. some fans should read beyond the fact that Gaga was used as an example. If Gaga remained Stefani, she would have got nowhere, not because she is talentless, but because the public'd demand is for entertainment more than for pure talent. And let's face it, yes Gaga has a good voice, but it can't match the likes of Adele, Mariah, Whitney (RIP), Alicia to rely exclusively on her talent as a singer. But Doucette does have a point: when the pendulum swings back to music for music and not music for entertainment, Gaga will still be around, cause unlike others in the music industry now, she has the talent. theres legitimate proof that supports the opposite.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Thats why shes wearing the meat dress at the BTW Ball... She's not wearing THE meat dress, though, it's a replica, and she wears it to represent her "I'm not a piece of meat" statement on Americano. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P 2,336 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Attention *****? Musician -> music Artist -> costumes, art, theatre, freedom, creativity. Do you hear that? It's poison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 She's not wearing THE meat dress, though, it's a replica, and she wears it to represent her "I'm not a piece of meat" statement on Americano. I think the Meat Dress in the tour has a better statement. Maybe because it's more emphasized than the actual Meat Dress (I think her core message was nice, Prime Rib of America and all, but it didn't seem to catch on). :haha: 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,820 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Jeez-o, people go on about Gaga being unoriginal when journalists are like a bunch of broken records and constantly produce articles that say Gaga concentrates too much on theatrics. We've heard it for the last four years - can we move on now? Once again, the criticism towards theatrical artists remains ever and always s-xist. I don't remember anyone ever saying that David Bowie's or Michael Jackson's flamboyant images and theatrics overshadowed their music. For some reason, the public don't like eccentric women, but they can accept eccentric men. Similarly, female artists get a lot of heat for having s-xual images that distract from the music but plenty of male artists have s-xual images and I've never heard the same criticism. Also, male artists aren't often pitted against one another, but women are, even if they're completely different artists *ahem*Gaga and Adele. I'm fed up with this dreadful s-xist attitude. If articles like this continue to be printed, they must take into account the theatrics and s-xuality of male acts and if this is acceptable or not and why. I think it's a shame that in this day and age, we are still under the impression that theatrics are only used to hide a lack of talent and that you can only be talented or theatrical, never both. Hello, ever heard the expression "multi-talented?" If anything, I think an artist who can do it all heightens their credibility. Quite frankly, I believe that anyone who thinks that theatrics detract from the music has a low attention span and is rather shallow, to be honest. I find it very ironic that articles like this go on and on about how it's not all about image and that music is far more important when they claim that theatrics are distracting them. Surely if they care about the music this much, they could block out all the theatrics and just concentrate on the music? I don't care what an artist looks like, how they dress or how they perform. I just want them to make good music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHGUY 230 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I think it's a shame that in this day and age, we are still under the impression that theatrics are only used to hide a lack of talent and that you can only be talented or theatrical, never both. This! Interesting how 60 minutes did a whole segment on her and revered her talents (which was run by Anderson Cooper btw), Larry King did a whole show dedicated to her and applauded her talents, yet CNN decided to write an article calling her "not a true artist" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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